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Brewers Hot Stove 2017-18 Edition

wiscopetty wrote: Few teams can. Which is why these contracts are crazy for anybody but the Cubs, Dodgers, Yankees, etc. How often do massive deals to guys over 30 ever work out for the team?

 

 i would say Jon Lester worked out well for them so far. and Wade davis

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Brewers Hot Stove 2017-18 Edition
Darvish has an opt out clause after the 2019 2020 and 2021 season. Highly doubt he is there the full six years. Considering how he wanted 30 million a year cubs struck gold. For everyone saying that the deal is insane, The brewers offered him 5 years and 125 that is 25 million annually so what is the difference. Cubs added a no trade clause and opt out which sealed deal. As far as cubs not having enough cabaple pitchers, they have 9 or 10 that can start. After the starting five, you have Montgomery who was 5-5 as a starter last year, Eddie Butler who was 4-3 as a starter last year. jen Ho Seng who will begin the year in Triple A. He was 14-6 with a 2.73 era last year for Iowa before earning sept callup. They still have Alec Mills and they signed Drew Symly who will be coming back from tommy john in july. Cubs have plenty of starting depth and Maddon already said he plans to go with six man rotation at times this season.
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Appleton East Boys HC John Mielke has Resigned

blade12 wrote:

Since that 2010-11 season East has never been above .500 and the last 4 years they have only single digit W's. I am not putting that on the coach or the kids it's just what has been happening at East.

It's great that the asst coach will step up and finish the season.

 

I am not putting it on coaching at all. The simple fact is, East just doesnt have the basketball talent they once had. Every school goes through a cycle like that. You can see it at East, Appleton North, neenah, hortonville, all over the state. Eventually they will have a strong class again.

 

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Holy expansion in MLS
The MlS has been known as the laughing stock of all soccer leagues, but is trying to overcome that. Recently MLS commissioner Don Graber has said he wants this league to be one of the premier leagues with a long term goal of 28 teams if not more. Back in 2012, that may not have seemed possible as the league stood at 14 teams. Now here we are entering the 2018 season and 23 teams are in play with LA FC joining this March. The expansion is not done. About a month ago, Nashville was awarded the 24th franchise scheduled to begin play in 2020. Now today, nearly after four years of trying Miami has been awarded the 25th franchise also hoping for 2020 as a start date. The commissioner has also said, there are five more cities narrowed down to the next expansion team which should be announced by may. That would make the league 26 teams by 2020 and now all of a sudden his plan of 28 teams by 2024 may turn into more. I love the direction the league is going in.
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Appleton East Boys HC John Mielke has Resigned
blade12 wrote:
In general I find that it is known what place a coaching staff visits after games and his supporters may end up there while those that disagree with the coach go elsewhere to grumble.

To end up in the same place is either planned or blind luck however "confronting" (whatever that means in this situation) a coach in public is out of line.

Who in their right mind would want to step in and take that job?  Seriously, parents so out of line that a very veteran coach like Mielke steps down mid season.  That says a lot.


with nearly the entire coaching staff stepping down with him, and certain players quitting also once they heard the news, I honestly don't see how the Patriots can play out the rest of their season. Not only do they have a brutal schedule and may throw a JV lineup on the floor, what coach is going to want to come into this mess for 6 games. IMOP they have two choices. 1. Some how convince Mielke to come back and finish out the year, or 2. forfeit the season. Option two seems more likely
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Appleton East Boys HC John Mielke has Resigned
wiscopetty wrote:
I can't even imagine going to a bar to publicly confront and berate a coach. Write a letter or something, jeez.


Exactly why this is a parents issue. To be honest, the only reason anything was ever said is because East is struggling to win games. Had this been 2010-12 no one would say anything. Just a travesty for the program, and horrible look for a school district who should be backing the coach when they arent
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Brewers Hot Stove 2017-18 Edition
wiscopetty wrote:
I had no issue with the trade for Yelich. He is more or less the guy you hope Brinson turns into someday, so they basically just accelerated the rebuild timeline a bit.


Not if the players who had career years last year take steps back this season. Even with the two additions, Brewers are projected 76-78 wins because no one thinks shaw and others can duplicate what they did last season. If they want any chance at competing this year, they will need a replica of the same season last year from everyone which is highly unlikely
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Brewers Hot Stove 2017-18 Edition
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:

safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:

 

                      Broxton never hit more the 9 home runs prior to 2017. Was 2017 a 'career' year for Broxton because he hit 20 home runs? I always laugh when people use home runs hit as a barometer of how a player's season was. Thames only hit well in April and Sept.  The team was 29-25 in April and Sept, when Thames hit well. The team was 57-51 in May,June, July and August when Thames hit poorly. Thames was nearly a non factor if you look into it. He stuck out at an incredible rate also.

Aguilar actually did have a career year with 52 rbi's in only 311 plate appearances, whereas Thames had only 63 rbi's in 551 plate appearances.  I agree that Aguilar stuck out at an incredible rate, but he produced far more overall in his at bats than Thames did. Shaw pumped in 101 rbi's with his 31 homeruns.  I am simply not impressed with home runs these days as the ball jumps out of parks like a rabbit. I look at rbi's more than homeruns.



I will give you that, but Shaw also hit in the 290's when his previous high was 272. Broxton hit in 250's when he never hit above 245.
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Appleton East Boys HC John Mielke has Resigned
yzerman1 wrote:

There is a bar right next to Appleton East high school and I have seen him stop there after games with his other coaches after games.  Not a big deal.  The lesson to be learned, and something I have found out personally, is that if you want to go somewhere after a game, make sure no else knows you will be stopping.  You just want to unwind after a game and don't need some parent in your face telling you what an idiot you were during the game.  I have my wife to tell me that which she does all the time.  I don't need that from some parent, especially just after a game when emotions can run pretty hot.


It wasn't the bar right next to Appleton east. It was a bar downtown Appleton. I only know, because my friend was bartending at the time of the incident and I showed up like an hour later. That is where parents crossed the line. They know he goes to the bar by the high school with coaches, but to some how coinscidently end up at a bar downtown without following him there??? highly unlikely
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Brewers Hot Stove 2017-18 Edition
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
      
 
                 If last year was a 'career' year by Thames, then I hate to think how poor he is going to be this year.

I do agree that these signings wont necessarily move the Brewers to the playoffs, but geting Yelich was a great trade. I dont really get signing Cain, unless they simply want to show that they CAN sign free agents. Cain is an upgrade, but if they were going to get Yelich, I just dont see the need for Cain. I have to believe something is going to happen with Braun - either a move to 1st base(which I would like) or they are going to try to move him to the Dodgers(unlikely!). Perhaps another trade is in the works for Santana, Cain or Braun?? Who knows, but trying to get to the playoffs by having 4 solid hitting OF's isnt how teams do it. I simply believe the money that will go to Cain would have been better spent 'keeping' guys they want to keep and signing other young guys.  Brewers certainly over performed in 2017, but unless the Cubs are really falling apart; I dont see the Brewers challenging the Cubs this season.

Anderson, Davies and Knebel also had career years. Will all 3 do as well in 2018? - unlikely but possible.



Thames never hit more than 15 hrs in a season in the MLB so yes it was a career year. same for shaw. If Braun moves to first, what do you do with Agular and Thames who are both locked up. If Braun stays, what do you do with him and Santana because no one will take on the Braun contract. Anderson I can see pitching the way he did last year, he was once a top 25 prospect in the dbacks organization. Davies, although he won a lot of games, a mid four era Is where he was hovering a majority of the season and you wont win 15 plus consistently with that. Knebel will be fine, the real question is outside of using Hader strictly as a setup man, who do you go with in the eighth to get him the ball.
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Brewers Hot Stove 2017-18 Edition
I also fear the trade they made for Yelich could hurt their rebuild. They gave up a lot for him, maybe too much imop. Brinson was a piece you needed to land a top starter not named Archer. As far as the signing of Cain, I think they vastly over paid him. A 32 year old making 17 million a year. 213 outfielders 32 years or older last season were in the mlb. of those 213 only 6 played more than 95 games. That is not a good trend for cain and if he cant play more than 120 games at that money it is a terrible signing that can effect future free agents and slow the rebuild. I feel Brewers got despearate and it may cost them.
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Brewers Hot Stove 2017-18 Edition
wiscopetty wrote: I think FanGraphs pegged them at 76 wins even after all the moves, which supports your theory.

Exactly my point. So many Brewer fans are like expecting 90 plus wins based on how they did last year. I give them credit they did well, but the cubs and Cards kept them in the race most of the year based on their first half struggles. Also, had Shaw and Thames not produced like they did, Milwaukee would have struggled to hit 70 wins. Not saying they wont be better than 76 wins, but they are a 500 team at best based off of no pitching, and can the hitters duplicate what they did last year
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Brewers Hot Stove 2017-18 Edition
Even with the recent offensive signings, I still don't think Brewers are a playoff team. They do not have enough starting pitching, and their bullpen lost some key arms. not to mention, players like Shaw, Santana, Thames had career years last season. Who is to say they don't take a step back this season which will cause the team to step back. All I am saying is fans need to pump the brakes a little bit with this team. I love the direction they are going, but it is impossible to do a full scale rebuild in less than three years. Even Theo Epstein cant do that, and he is a way better GM than sterns
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Return of the XFL
Chicago is first comfirmed city to bring in XFl team
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2018 Coaching Changes
Long time Kaukauna coach Tom Belling reportedly is done following his tenure this season. Assistant head coach Mitch Bolwerk looking to keep boys program rolling.
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