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Division 4
With St. Francis, Platteville and Lodi or Mayville standing in top-ranked Evansville's path on its way to Camp Randall, my gut tells me to go with Platteville. The Hillmen already have two playoff games under their belts (classics against Division 5 Lancaster) and a slightly more favorable path.
State semifinals: Somerset, Appleton Xavier, Platteville, Mayville.
State final: Platteville 24, Appleton Xavier 21.



Somerset a state semi-finalist. I believe The Wisconsin State Journal Hit it right on the head last year with their prediction. This should be fun![:-]
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I think the best teams in D5 could beat the best teams in D4 this year.
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I think I said something earlier about how Somerset was going to be in for a tough road in D4 if they wanted to get to state this year; the road would've been much tougher than when they were in D5. That's just for this area though, the D4 teams are much stronger than the D5 teams when the playoffs come around. As a whole though, I don't think there is all that much difference between the best teams in the state from D4 through D6. I have no doubts that the "peewee" D5 Somerset team from 2004 with Hennessey, Klis, Raleigh, Rorabeck, and others would have had little difficulty in this D4 bracket this year, but it just wasn't meant to be for this year's Somerset team.
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sofast
There are teams in smaller divisions that could handle teams larger divisions every game. The divisional breakdown for playoffs is done to "catagorize" teams by their school enrollment size, which is suppose to give teams an equal chance at winning. I guarentee that Lancaster this year could win D4 and possibly D3. Every year I could say that about a different team. It all depends on the team and the year.
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Come on! did this reporter actually think that a Division 5 state champion team, like Somerset, could actually come into D4 and go to the state semi's come on. D5 is like watching peewee football. Somerset got owned. Go Durand!


How did somerset beat west salem 21-3 last sweason and salem lost a close game to ripon for the gold ball. If you think there is a huge difference between d-4 and d-5 , i would beg to differ. And don't compare The game tuesday night vs Get tio somerset winning d-5 five years ago... different kids, different everything. G_E_T is the real deal and west salem will find that out
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I beg to differ with your argument S&P. There is a difference. I would even venture to say a big one. I know Somerset this year wasnt as dominate as years before but there is a BIG difference between playing teams like Grantsburg Elk Mound, Cumberland, Mondovi, St. Croix Central and Then playing Division 4 teams like GET, Durand, Ellsworth.

I think that when you look at the big picture.. Sure the best couple of teams in Division 5 could surely compete and beat top teams in Div. 4. BUT could they do that for 4 games in a row? I mean look at what Somerset would have had to do to get back to the State Championship game this year. Beat GET, Beast West Salem, Beat Durand or Ellsworth, Beat Wrightstown? Tuff Tuff road.
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I think I said something earlier about how Somerset was going to be in for a tough road in D4 if they wanted to get to state this year; the road would've been much tougher than when they were in D5. That's just for this area though, the D4 teams are much stronger than the D5 teams when the playoffs come around. As a whole though, I don't think there is all that much difference between the best teams in the state from D4 through D6. I have no doubts that the "peewee" D5 Somerset team from 2004 with Hennessey, Klis, Raleigh, Rorabeck, and others would have had little difficulty in this D4 bracket this year, but it just wasn't meant to be for this year's Somerset team.


Making it through the playoffs and having the top 2-4 teams in a division compete with a higher division are two different things...there are many examples of years where a team from a lower division did well versus teams from a higher division and both ended up at state. Last year, Somerset beat West Salem handily in week one or two, and West Salem lost in the D4 finals to Ripon, whereas Somerset lost to Lancaster D5. I played a on D4 state champ team that beat the D3 runner up years ago...so it's not that unusual. But making it through the playoffs, like Bo said, for 4 straight games is a little different...god help me, I just agreed with Bo Jackson.[X(][]
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BoJackson_old
how about you can get a good look at a butcher by sticking your head up a cows a** but wouldnt you rather take his word for it
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Men14_old
Good quote Tommy Bo
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goldball
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I think I said something earlier about how Somerset was going to be in for a tough road in D4 if they wanted to get to state this year; the road would've been much tougher than when they were in D5. That's just for this area though, the D4 teams are much stronger than the D5 teams when the playoffs come around. As a whole though, I don't think there is all that much difference between the best teams in the state from D4 through D6. I have no doubts that the "peewee" D5 Somerset team from 2004 with Hennessey, Klis, Raleigh, Rorabeck, and others would have had little difficulty in this D4 bracket this year, but it just wasn't meant to be for this year's Somerset team.


Making it through the playoffs and having the top 2-4 teams in a division compete with a higher division are two different things...there are many examples of years where a team from a lower division did well versus teams from a higher division and both ended up at state. Last year, Somerset beat West Salem handily in week one or two, and West Salem lost in the D4 finals to Ripon, whereas Somerset lost to Lancaster D5. I played a on D4 state champ team that beat the D3 runner up years ago...so it's not that unusual. But making it through the playoffs, like Bo said, for 4 straight games is a little different...god help me, I just agreed with Bo Jackson.[X(][]


Is it "Birds of a feather, flock together? Or eagles don't fly with sparrows? I can't remember.


I know that "you can't soar with the eagles if your out with the owls"...does that count?
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Little chill in an October sky, nervous 'til the kickoff came,
Four quarters win or lose, spent Saturdays black-n-blue, but it was what I loved to do, and it was more than just a game."

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I think I said something earlier about how Somerset was going to be in for a tough road in D4 if they wanted to get to state this year; the road would've been much tougher than when they were in D5. That's just for this area though, the D4 teams are much stronger than the D5 teams when the playoffs come around. As a whole though, I don't think there is all that much difference between the best teams in the state from D4 through D6. I have no doubts that the "peewee" D5 Somerset team from 2004 with Hennessey, Klis, Raleigh, Rorabeck, and others would have had little difficulty in this D4 bracket this year, but it just wasn't meant to be for this year's Somerset team.


Making it through the playoffs and having the top 2-4 teams in a division compete with a higher division are two different things...there are many examples of years where a team from a lower division did well versus teams from a higher division and both ended up at state. Last year, Somerset beat West Salem handily in week one or two, and West Salem lost in the D4 finals to Ripon, whereas Somerset lost to Lancaster D5. I played a on D4 state champ team that beat the D3 runner up years ago...so it's not that unusual. But making it through the playoffs, like Bo said, for 4 straight games is a little different...god help me, I just agreed with Bo Jackson.[X(][]


Is it "Birds of a feather, flock together? Or eagles don't fly with sparrows? I can't remember.


I know that "you can't soar with the eagles if your out with the owls"...does that count?


What about "If your going to run with the big dogs you can't pee like a pup.? Can I say that?


How bout the quote, "LESS IS MORE".
a win is a win, whether by 1 or 100
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The game versus West salem and Wrightstown was a lot closer than the score would indicate... It was 7-7 at half-time.... Wrightstown ran back a kick return in the second half that made it 13-7 and west salem came back to tie the game 13-13... Wrightstown cam back and scored off of some turnovers and got up by a couple scores and then the wheels fell off.. but it was not a laugher at all ... (from what the score would indicate)


Actually Wrightstown scored the 1st 2 TD's of the 2nd half. So it was 21-7 before WS scored again. After that it was a route. Wtown also fumbled on the 1 yard line right before half and missed a short field goal early in the 2nd half. Plus they won with out their starting QB for almost the entire game and their best lineman for the 2nd half.

I know horicon did beat mayville by 4 TD's earlier in the year, but remember that Platville split with lancaster this year and both were very close games, and Plateville lost to Evansville at level 3 and Evansville lost to Mayville last saturday. Just throwing that out there.

Also Lancaster beat West Salem 42-13 early in the year and Wrightstown best West Salem 41-13 last week. What im saying is that there are a lot of ways to compare the best teams from different division's, but you really never will know who is better unless they play each other.
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but remember that Platville split with lancaster this year and both were very close games, and Plateville lost to Evansville at level 3 and Evansville lost to Mayville last saturday. Just throwing that out there.


Guess we will never know.
Sorry I just had to point something out..

Evansville beat Platteville who was without their best player (Nzegwu) who scored 75% of their points this year.. If Nzegwu stayed healthy Platteville would be at Camp Randall tomorrow. He was their team basically.. and it showed when they got killed by evansville.
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Hubber_old
The game versus West salem and Wrightstown was a lot closer than the score would indicate... It was 7-7 at half-time.... Wrightstown ran back a kick return in the second half that made it 13-7 and west salem came back to tie the game 13-13... Wrightstown cam back and scored off of some turnovers and got up by a couple scores and then the wheels fell off.. but it was not a laugher at all ... (from what the score would indicate)
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tigersfan05_old
P-Villes lvl 2 game vs Big Foot was on FSN and from watching that game I can tell you that he was definatly not their whole team.
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but remember that Platville split with lancaster this year and both were very close games, and Plateville lost to Evansville at level 3 and Evansville lost to Mayville last saturday. Just throwing that out there.


Sorry I just had to point something out..

Evansville beat Platteville who was without their best player (Nzegwu) who scored 75% of their points this year.. If Nzegwu stayed healthy Platteville would be at Camp Randall tomorrow. He was their team basically.. and it showed when they got killed by evansville.


no way!! EVANSVILLE had 3 players out for that game compared to plattevilles 1.... and one was thier fullback/middle backer... NO way... Evansville just beat them period..
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