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blade12 wrote:
"It was in the newsletter, you do read the newsletters don't you?"  

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Dave Anderson states that notes from process that goes through Sports Advisory Committee, Advisory Council, and ultimately Board of Control are posted publicly for schools to review prior to vote.
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At today's meeting and at yesterday's meeting, administrators express frustration that basketball was expanded to 24 regular season games. Some felt it was a bit of a blindside for admins, like Shot Clock was a couple years ago.

If you're referring to the WBCA newsletter, not all admins are members or get it. If you're referring to the WIAA Bulletin, they don't publish Advisory Council or Coaches Advisory minutes in those. The info was likely on the WIAA site before the BOC meeting, but I don't know that that info is actively sent out to schools, more of a passive process where schools must search out the info. I can understand administrators concerns about things like this or the shot clock being "sprung" on them a bit, even if the info is out there, though not super easy to find.
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If you're referring to the WBCA newsletter, not all admins are members or get it. If you're referring to the WIAA Bulletin, they don't publish Advisory Council or Coaches Advisory minutes in those. The info was likely on the WIAA site before the BOC meeting, but I don't know that that info is actively sent out to schools, more of a passive process where schools must search out the info. I can understand administrators concerns about things like this or the shot clock being "sprung" on them a bit, even if the info is out there, though not super easy to find.


Just a sarcastic comment on my part about how no one reads the info that is provided to them especially info that is right in front of their faces if they would just read the emails and newsletters they get.

I would have rather someone asked DA why it's for varsity only.
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baker18
I like this idea honostly. Teams can now focus on scheduling harder non conference games or focus on schedule more games that impact regional seeding. 
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baker18 wrote:
I like this idea honostly. Teams can now focus on scheduling harder non conference games or focus on schedule more games that impact regional seeding. 


While that's true, the extra games can make it more difficult and more expensive to schedule worthwhile opponents. Using La Crosse Central as an example. Who can they schedule that would be considered a "harder" non conference opponent that is less than a 2 hour bus ride for the team? To play a more talented D1 or D2 school, they have to travel to the Fox Valley, Madison or Milwaukee. Or maybe travel into the Twin Cities. None of those options are great. 
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blade12


While that's true, the extra games can make it more difficult and more expensive to schedule worthwhile opponents. Using La Crosse Central as an example. Who can they schedule that would be considered a "harder" non conference opponent that is less than a 2 hour bus ride for the team? To play a more talented D1 or D2 school, they have to travel to the Fox Valley, Madison or Milwaukee. Or maybe travel into the Twin Cities. None of those options are great. 


This is 100% about freeing up teams to be able to go travel across the country and play in what they think is some higher profile tournament in Florida or Vegas, etc. or to play in the more locally controlled Border Battles and Holiday Tournaments held in the state. With too many 10 team conferences the 18 conf game schedule doesn't allow enough scheduling freedom for many teams to play in these "special" events so they are allowing 2 more games.

I am all for playing more games but the WIAA goes about it in some strange ways. I will ask again, why does this not include sub varsity level teams? There is zero harm in allowing those kids to play a couple more games too. Do they need to travel to FL to do that, of course not but let them play.
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While that's true, the extra games can make it more difficult and more expensive to schedule worthwhile opponents. Using La Crosse Central as an example. Who can they schedule that would be considered a "harder" non conference opponent that is less than a 2 hour bus ride for the team? To play a more talented D1 or D2 school, they have to travel to the Fox Valley, Madison or Milwaukee. Or maybe travel into the Twin Cities. None of those options are great. 


LAC Central has 2 sophomores listed on their Wissports roster. All the rest are seniors. Will anyone want to play them? Can they keep this high level of play going past this year? Who is going to step up next year?
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db11
blade12 wrote:


This is 100% about freeing up teams to be able to go travel across the country and play in what they think is some higher profile tournament in Florida or Vegas, etc. or to play in the more locally controlled Border Battles and Holiday Tournaments held in the state. With too many 10 team conferences the 18 conf game schedule doesn't allow enough scheduling freedom for many teams to play in these "special" events so they are allowing 2 more games.

I am all for playing more games but the WIAA goes about it in some strange ways. I will ask again, why does this not include sub varsity level teams? There is zero harm in allowing those kids to play a couple more games too. Do they need to travel to FL to do that, of course not but let them play.


Realistically, you can already manipulate that with reserve or B-team games if you so choose...

...besides if a JV team was to play 23, 24, 25 games in a season, would anyone care, would there be any "sanctions" for doing so?
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db11 wrote:


Realistically, you can already manipulate that with reserve or B-team games if you so choose...

...besides if a JV team was to play 23, 24, 25 games in a season, would anyone care, would there be any "sanctions" for doing so?


Based on what is in the rules I would say yes consequences should be expected. What would the WIAA actually impose? I don't know.  You know me and the rules, I like things spelled out.

The WIAA may not really care, most fans may not care but parents and kids ages 12-15 will care and you watch how that would be used as an "attractant" to certain schools. If I were coaching at the sub varsity level, I'd be pushing to play 30+ JV /JV2 games a year, especially if the WIAA isn't going to impose any penalties.
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