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bhsblackhawks wrote:
coachw12 wrote:
pulvea wrote:
I just don't understand why are we seeing more carries for White then Gordon. It just doesn't make sense? this seems to have been a shift the last 3 or 4 weeks. James White is a nice college back, Melvin Gordon is one of the best backs in the country.



James white will be more productive in the NFL than Monte Ball. White is a 3 down back who can catch the ball out of the back field.

I remember the UW staff gushing over James White because he was a 4.4 guy in the 40. Gordon according to rivals best was a 4.53 forty.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/wisconsin/football/recruiting/player-James%20C.-White-66872


http://rivals.yahoo.com/wisconsin/football/recruiting/player-Melvin-Gordon-101191

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=6316582 as you can see joe mixon a top UW recruit is more in the line of a melvin gordon like player.

There's got to be something goofy with those 40 times and other stats. Melvin has a faster shuttle time and a vertical that is 13 inches larger (James White only has a 28 in. vertical? I don't buy it...) So according to that, Melvin is obviously more explosive and has better acceleration than James, which means he gets to top speed faster. And unless my eyes are really deceiving me, out in the open field, Melvin is at least as fast as James.



your assertion is right about getting to top speed faster but football is not track. RBs often have to be shifty more than they are straight line speed. White clearly can make blockers miss and he does not put the ball on the carpet.
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coachw12
db11 wrote:
thebillwaltontrip wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that Gordon is faster, has better vision, hits the holes quicker, and cuts better than White does.

White's a very solid HB at the college level but Gordon has that "something special" about him when he runs.

Take away that 49 yard run to open the game on Saturday and White had 76 yards on 25 carries...definitely not the kind of production that would warrant him getting twice as many carries in a game as Gordon, who has proven to be the more explosive runner out of the two all season.


And take away a 15 yard run from Gordon on a late 3rd and long and his stats were just as bad. He also fumbled in a key spot (2 in 2 weeks now).

This team leans on White because he is the senior and has carried the full load in the past. Even in HS Gordon rarely carried the ball more than 20 times.

Also, has anyone noticed which running back has had more big plays as the competition got "better?"

MGII has the full package, however, he still has to prove he can put it all together consistently. The UW staff isn't gonna give him the ball 30 times a game when they don't have to at this point.



NO one gets the ball 30 times in a game on a consistent basis unless you are playing high school football.
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bucky13
I would have to say that is because Melvin Gordon is stillr elatively inexeperienced compared to White. nobody jump down my throat just yet. white has been there and done that and this will teach gordon patience and a chance to learn from soemone smarter and more epxerienced than him.
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bhsblackhawks
coachw12 wrote:
bhsblackhawks wrote:
coachw12 wrote:
pulvea wrote:
I just don't understand why are we seeing more carries for White then Gordon. It just doesn't make sense? this seems to have been a shift the last 3 or 4 weeks. James White is a nice college back, Melvin Gordon is one of the best backs in the country.



James white will be more productive in the NFL than Monte Ball. White is a 3 down back who can catch the ball out of the back field.

I remember the UW staff gushing over James White because he was a 4.4 guy in the 40. Gordon according to rivals best was a 4.53 forty.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/wisconsin/football/recruiting/player-James%20C.-White-66872


http://rivals.yahoo.com/wisconsin/football/recruiting/player-Melvin-Gordon-101191

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=6316582 as you can see joe mixon a top UW recruit is more in the line of a melvin gordon like player.

There's got to be something goofy with those 40 times and other stats. Melvin has a faster shuttle time and a vertical that is 13 inches larger (James White only has a 28 in. vertical? I don't buy it...) So according to that, Melvin is obviously more explosive and has better acceleration than James, which means he gets to top speed faster. And unless my eyes are really deceiving me, out in the open field, Melvin is at least as fast as James.



your assertion is right about getting to top speed faster but football is not track. RBs often have to be shifty more than they are straight line speed. White clearly can make blockers miss and he does not put the ball on the carpet.

I said earlier in the thread that although I think Gordon is a more naturally talented runningback, right now, at the current stage of their respective developments, White is better. So yeah, I agree with you on that.
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