westernwihoops
I noticed that coaches listed in Mark's Travel Team Previews have sons that play on those squads...how does that work with the off-season contact rules?
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traviswilson
You can coach your own kids as much as you want, off-season contact rules do not apply. I'll have to double check if there's an allowance for other family.
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westernwihoops
Makes sense...you can coach your own kid but not his/her high school teammates (Wagner at G-E-T for example).
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wompuscat

To be fair on that, most coach's kids are better than their counterparts. And if you look at the kids that are good on youth teams, you will see their parents coach them or spend time with them teaching the game. Not exactly sure what you are getting at in your post. That a parent can't coach their own kid?
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westernwihoops
Wompuscat, Up until very recently, High School basketball coaches were only allowed 5 contact days with their players during the offseason. My original question pertained to that. If Coach A coached ABC High School and an AAU team in the spring, none of ABC High School's players could play for that AAU team (with the exception of Coach A's own child).

This is a moot point now since the rule has been changed.
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blade12
westernwihoops wrote:
Wompuscat, Up until very recently, High School basketball coaches were only allowed 5 contact days with their players during the offseason. My original question pertained to that. If Coach A coached ABC High School and an AAU team in the spring, none of ABC High School's players could play for that AAU team (with the exception of Coach A's own child).

This is a moot point now since the rule has been changed.


I just heard from a friend who was angry about the email their coach just sent about his summer schedule for kids and how much the coach want his boys to be at the gym all summer under the new rules. The dad's initial reaction was screw that we'll just stop playing bball. I don't know if they will give up the sport but I guess we'll see.
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wompuscat
westernwihoops wrote:
Wompuscat, Up until very recently, High School basketball coaches were only allowed 5 contact days with their players during the offseason. My original question pertained to that. If Coach A coached ABC High School and an AAU team in the spring, none of ABC High School's players could play for that AAU team (with the exception of Coach A's own child).

This is a moot point now since the rule has been changed.


I kinda figured that was where you were going. I suppose on one hand it might seem unfair, that a HS coach can coach their own kid on a Summer Travel team, but not the others. But that is just one of the advantage a kid has when their parent is a coach. And there is the flip side where maybe the kid doesnt want to, but his dad is putting pressure on him to play. but moot point now as you said.

Saw blade12's note also - there are going to be some coaches that take this to the extreme and anger some parents and families with summer expectations that don't meet the families. there are likely going to be some consequences for this at many schools, and there will be kids/teams that benefit. I don't see a one size fits all solution for this one. Don't be surprised to see a push to cut it back the contact in a year or two.

I am wondering if we are going to see some HS teams playing in AAU tournies next year, or possibly sooner.
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blade12
wompuscat wrote:
westernwihoops wrote:
Wompuscat, Up until very recently, High School basketball coaches were only allowed 5 contact days with their players during the offseason. My original question pertained to that. If Coach A coached ABC High School and an AAU team in the spring, none of ABC High School's players could play for that AAU team (with the exception of Coach A's own child).

This is a moot point now since the rule has been changed.


I kinda figured that was where you were going. I suppose on one hand it might seem unfair, that a HS coach can coach their own kid on a Summer Travel team, but not the others. But that is just one of the advantage a kid has when their parent is a coach. And there is the flip side where maybe the kid doesnt want to, but his dad is putting pressure on him to play. but moot point now as you said.

Saw blade12's note also - there are going to be some coaches that take this to the extreme and anger some parents and families with summer expectations that don't meet the families. there are likely going to be some consequences for this at many schools, and there will be kids/teams that benefit. I don't see a one size fits all solution for this one. Don't be surprised to see a push to cut it back the contact in a year or two.

I am wondering if we are going to see some HS teams playing in AAU tournies next year, or possibly sooner.


I think we will see more and more school based AAU type teams.

It's definitely not one size fits all but I can see this becoming school A doing more in the summer than rival school B and eventually school A attracts the serious bball players (or other sports) over school B and the competition gap widens between those schools and one becomes known as the bball school or the vball school or baseball school etc.

I will be curious to see if FB coaches start to ask for the time in the summer too. With the amount of coach turnover each year, why wouldn't a new FB coach want to start putting in his new offense or defense ASAP. FB coaches who don't want to use the time can still choose not to but if they don't do it while rival school A does then we'll see the competition gap widen and pressure coaches to do more and ask more of kids and families.

IMO if the schools have decided that school isn't year round then HS sports shouldn't be either but that cat is out of the bag on this one. Down the road I think this will cause more problems that it solves.

In the latest rule change basketball benefits. Anyone think we will see the quality of WI HS bball get better now that coaches have access to kids in the summer?
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traviswilson
wompuscat wrote:
westernwihoops wrote:
Wompuscat, Up until very recently, High School basketball coaches were only allowed 5 contact days with their players during the offseason. My original question pertained to that. If Coach A coached ABC High School and an AAU team in the spring, none of ABC High School's players could play for that AAU team (with the exception of Coach A's own child).

This is a moot point now since the rule has been changed.


I kinda figured that was where you were going. I suppose on one hand it might seem unfair, that a HS coach can coach their own kid on a Summer Travel team, but not the others. But that is just one of the advantage a kid has when their parent is a coach. And there is the flip side where maybe the kid doesnt want to, but his dad is putting pressure on him to play. but moot point now as you said.

Saw blade12's note also - there are going to be some coaches that take this to the extreme and anger some parents and families with summer expectations that don't meet the families. there are likely going to be some consequences for this at many schools, and there will be kids/teams that benefit. I don't see a one size fits all solution for this one. Don't be surprised to see a push to cut it back the contact in a year or two.

I am wondering if we are going to see some HS teams playing in AAU tournies next year, or possibly sooner.

I saw several instances of this in the past years already. Nothing ever prohibited it, though some tournaments had rules that school tourneys were limited to school-related (not sanctioned) teams and not AAU or club teams.
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banks93
AAU being a different brand of basketball than high school basketball I don't see it being too much of an issue. The better players will still play together. High School Teams cannot compete on the AAU circuit in my opinion.

Plus you have kids doing track, baseball and other sports and will not be available to play AAU.

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rmosley
While the majority of teams may not be able to compete at the upper AAU levels, a team like Germantown or King could easily compete and likely be extremely successful.
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