shutit_old
Hey no offense but how is Christian Wolf on this list? He isnt even the top sophomore in one of Wisconsins weakest conferences. No college potential at all. How is this possible that a guy who averaged 4 pts a game and half a rebound with 3 turnovers a game for little Kohler is on this list. Dumbest thing I have ever seen on Wishoops.
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hoopsfanatic21_old
clc will be a good conference again this year. I garantee that they will have not one but maybe even two or three teams ranked in state. back to the sophmore sublect. there is wilterdink, but does anyone else matter. Wolf? you've got to be kidding
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shutit_old
Name me a conference nearby that is worse. CLC is all division 3 and 4. I think the best basketball run i have seen from this conference in a while was S. Christian a few years ago when Hilbert made it to the final. In football I dont even remember a team doing that well for a while. I am just saying that college basketball players rarely come from the CLC. Cant think of ne one as of late and see no one that will next year. Real outside shot Dekker will play division 3. But most likely for a private school.
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resorter_old
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So just because a conference has small schools means that it's a bad conference? That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. There has been tons of great basketball in the CLC for a loooooooooong time and you obviously haven't been watching any of it. And another thing, ask any college scout what conference and normal high school play means for a player's college stock. Nothing. All scouts go to AAU and big tournaments now. Even someone with the most college potential like Dekker or Andrew Zimmermann isn't getting big scout looks from CLC play. You think Jimmy Keller got a scholarship from being in the Oostburg system? Nope.

It is not one of the stronger conferences because it is not big. It is pretty good for its size but that does not matter. The point was true. The numbers Wolf put up would not be that bad in King's conference but in a small school conference those numbers are terrible. Wolf does have a lot more potential to play D1 college then Wilterdink. Wolf if he grows to 6'10" will play D1. I am not a big Wolf fan but that is a fact.
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hoopsfanatic21_old
i agree clcbballfan, height is terribly overrated. it is important, but i get sick and tired of hearing about that 7 footer and this 6'9" kid or that 6'10" kid. who cares if they aren't sound fundamentally and know the game of basketball. i agree with your list except on wolf. he has some major improving to do if he even wants to play d3. he is gonna need to prove to me that he is worthy of baring the last name wolf
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hoopsfanatic21_old
[left]there is a guy from oostburg who is 6'11" named jordan waech. so come resorted make another prophecy about how he is gonna be playing d1. heck wolf is only 6'7" or something. if you say he is going to college for his height why isn't anyone talking about an almost 7 footer. so just stop talking resorter until you get your facts straight. [/left]
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clcbbfan
People get to caught up in height for basketball players especially in high school. What basketball comes down to is fundamentals, intelligence, and skills. Height become a much greater factor in college and the NBA. I also realize that "you can't coach height" but I still think that height is still overrated.

Slotman (who I still don't believe was actually 6'10") isn't playing d1 basketball because he didn't have good enough footwork, strength, leaping ability, or the desire to set up on the block and demand the basketball.

Wolf is only a sophmore, and still has time to work on all those areas.

IMO the only players in the CLC that have the potential to go d1 (I'm talking mid-major here) are Andrew Zimmerman (Oostburg 6-9 W/F), John Dekker (Lutheran 6-6 G/F), and Christian Wolf (Kohler 6-7 F). Then you have players like Tyler Morgan (Howards Grove 5-11 PG), and Justin Wilterdink (Oostburg 6-2 G) who have the potential to play d3 (WIAC not d3 private).

Here's why those players will go d1 or d3:
Zimmerman: Hard working kid that continues to get stronger and "fill out his body." Has exceptional ball skills for someone who is 6'9", good footwork, slightly above average athletic ability, unselfish, and plays hard on "both" sides of the ball.
John Dekker: Basketball savy, alway seems to be in a positon to make a play or get a rebound. Great perimeter shooter, good strength, good ball skills, and seems determined to get his team a win.
Christian Wolf: Good size (already 6-7 / 6-8), has a nice touch around the basket (like his hook shot), good basketball background, and has "potential."
Tyler Morgan: Great ball skills, good vision on the court, execellent athlete, also plays hard on "both" sides of the ball.
Justin Wilterdink: Good ball skills, good vision, above average athlete, good size at the point, good perimeter shooter, and plays d. Shows a desire to win/compete, and will take some big shots.

Here's why they won't make it:
Zimmerman: still not "big" enough, hasn't shown a desire to "demand" the basketball in key situations, not alway offensively aggressive enough (you're 6-9 in the CLC get on the block once and a while and call for the ball, good ball skills or not).
John Dekker: he's a 2 guard maybe a SF, not quick enough or athletic enough for d1. At the 2 would see primarily 6-3 to 6-6 guys that could pick his pocket and blow right by him on d. At the SF would see primarily 6-4 to 6-8 guys that could post him up and probably outrebound him on the glass.
Christian Wolf: Name can only take you so far, improve footwork, endurance, and strength. Another couple inches wouldn't hurt either.
Tyler Morgan: Height (college is where it becomes a bigger deal) good enough for d3, and athletic ability will carry him.
Justin Wilterdink: Improve PG skills, and defense.
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swishot32_old
Slotman was 6' 10''. absolutely positive, but that doesn't mean he was anything great. Too wimpy if you ask me.
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resorter_old
I don't know why everyone was ripping into what I was saying. I am not saying that height is everything but if a person by the name of Wolf is 6'10" his name and his height and the fact that he is going to be Kohler when he is a senior is enough to get him on a D1 mid-major team. He will not be that good when he gets their and I do not think he is that good but he will have more of a chance because of his name, his ball skills, and height. Also he will not get to 6'10" because yes, he is leveling off. Dekker will not play D1. He wants to play D3 and be a starter, so I heard. Dekker would have a tough time pulling off D1. The only reason that Wolf and Zimmerman have more of a chance is because they are younger so we don't know how much they will improve. Derrik Daun from Elkhart has a chance to play D3 private but I don't even know if that counts. The key to D3 is being a hard worker and having some height. A lot of players in the CLC could play at some Wisconsin private schools.
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shutit_old
Every CLC team lost in the first round in football.
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shutit_old
Of the players you mentioned I think Dekker is the best by far and I just dont see him D3. Also remember no one in the CLC will ever go division 1 cuz if they could y would they play in the CLC? I also agree Zimmerman needs to be more aggressive. As for Wolf all of us (myself included) need to mention him less. He is going to be a good CLC player and that is enough. He wont play college. He has topped out at 6'6" and could not be compared to Keller. Keller plays for St Augustana. Big Deal. Probably got $5000 off a college that costs a fortune. anyone can get that. We should talk more about players like Weyker. He is much better than Wolf. More of an all around game and can run.
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shutit_old
Sorry. I will end the confusion. I was trying to respond to several posts at once. Someone mentioned how strong they felt the CLC is. That is why I brought up the football spanking. CLC is competitive but not as high quality athletes as other conference. And as for all this college talk just forget it. Who is the last CLC player to go division 1? No one is going anywhere for basketball. Lets just enjoy this great competitive season coming up. Seniors will enjoy their last year of basketball.
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resorter_old
I saw Wolf the other day and he is not that unbelevably tall. It was from a distance but I would say he is still 6'5"
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clcbbfan
How strong a confrence is in one sport, doesn't have that much to do with another sport. Take the Olympian Confrence for example; I think almost anyone would agree that they have been one of the stronger small school football confrences in the state. Yet Oostburg beat Manty Lutheran in '01, and '02 in basketball. Lost to Hilbert in '03, but still 2-1 (CLC). That confrence would own the CLC in football, but basketball is different. You have different coaches, athletes, and traditions at each school.
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