formerwiacbaseballer wrote: Forgot to mention, UWO AD Sims is a football guy having played at UW so it should come as no surprise that a lot of efforts are going towards the football program.
It would be quite ironic if he ended up being the fall guy as far as administration goes if they ever got to the bottom of the money issue.....
Agreed. It is the Richter/Alvarez model - build Football and have it help fund everything else... Hard to argue with the results, based on how stable UW athletics are now.
I'd like to see UW bring back some of the sports it cut to stay afloat (Baseball, etc), and hope UWO doesn't go the same route in that respect.
BTW, WIAC, you must have had interaction with Lechnir in your playing days. What's your take?
People either love him or hate him.... There doesn't seem to be many in between.
I certainly did not play for nor do i know Lechnir. Sounds like the kind of coach you hate when you play for him but 10-15 years later you respect a lot more for what he taught you.
In recent seasons, Lechnir has acquired many detractors in relation to his coaching methods.
abounds that the success of the UWO baseball program has fallen off because the quality of recruits has diminished due to that perception. Just sayin'.
I know you bolded speculation, but in my opinion I think A LOT has to do with the fact that guys like Coach Bloom and Coach Vodenlich are working the recruiting trails just as hard as Coach Lechnir these days. In years past, Coach Lechnir was "ahead of the game" when it came to recruiting and the results showed it.
No doubt. Lechnir, more or less, had his pick of the litter in the state of Wisconsin for several years, especially during the glory days of the program (1990's and early 2000's).
Lechnir's biggest competitor for in-state talent was probably UW-Milwaukee, the state's only D-1 program.
Certainly the UW-Whitewater & UW-Stevens Point baseball programs have caught up or possibly even surpassed the UWO program on the recruiting trail. The success of the UWW & UWSP programs on the diamond in the past 10 yrs has undoubtedly contributed to their recruiting success. The question becomes: Which came first .... the chicken or the egg? Did success by UWW & UWSP breed better recruiting or did better recruiting breed success? Did some of the negative publicized UWO baseball events (see below) contribute to a drop-off in recruiting quality by the Lechnir & the Titans, yielding a piece of their recruiting dominance to schools like UWW & UWSP? Or, did the success of the UWW & UWSP programs, in and by itself, put a dent in UWO's recruiting edge? Perhaps it was a combination of both.
IMO, UWO's program, in its heyday, was impacted greatly by great pitching. This is certainly an area where the Titans have fallen off. UWSP & UWW have caught up & problaby surpassed the Titans, in recent seasons, in terms of talent on the mound.
An excerpt from an internet blog, dated April 27, 2005, referencing a couple of UWO baseball developments that did not reflect well on Coach Lechnir and his baseball program at UWO:
"Finally, there is the seemingly endless behavior of Tom Lechnir, UWO head baseball coach for the past 13 years.
First, there were the allegations of both physical and verbal abuse from former player Eric Servais in 2001.
Then, most shockingly, there was the ?base brawl? last season during the second game of a doubleheader versus UW-Whitewater. Lechnir and former Milwaukee Brewer reliever Doug Henry were identified as the two primary figures in the incident."
I would actually argue that Carthage College was UWO's biggest competitor on the recruiting trail years ago, and not UW Milwaukee. They were a fixture at the College World Series in the 1990's, and had a roster littered with players from the Fox Valley (Dean Muthig, Gavin Winfield, Glenn Braun, Justin Hallock, etc..). Is it just coincidence that BOTH programs (UWO and Carthage) have seen a drop in success at the same time while Whitewater and Stevens Point have seen an increase in success?
One thing that I have always thought played a part in the drop in success at UWO was the 1999 MLB Amateur Draft. Oshkosh set a NCAA Division III record having five players selected that year, which rivaled the numbers of some Division One programs. Four of the five players were underclassmen, which may have forced UWO to play some players that weren't ready in 2000.
Lastly, who was author of the above Internet blog?
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