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safetysqueezepleezzee11
should be able to kneel it out - don't hand it off Rodgers - take a knee
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onpackerland
Cue all the Packer fans who were so certain all week the Patriots were going to win in a blowout now claiming with equal conviction that the Packers are guaranteed to win the Super Bowl. Just absolutely no concept of parity in major professional sports...
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wiscopetty
GREAT WIN. Even though it's relatively inconsequential in the playoff picture, it's still a barometer of where you're at and gives you the signature win. All three facets were impressive today.

Where's billwaltontrip when you need him? I thought "McNugget" had a hell of a game today.
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paladium
I'll have a real response later, but early reaction..

Wow. That was one hell of a game by both teams. This was a real football game between two teams of grown men. Both offenses made plays, both defenses made plays. It was enjoyable to watch from a pure football perspective.

Also, if it wasn't clear before it should be now. Ted Thompson knows how to find pass catchers. Both Davante Adams (his first 100 yard game) and Richard Rodgers will become mainstays on this offense and big contributors. Had Adams caught that last slant, he might have been the player of the game. Finally, the Packers defense is good enough to win a championship. If you can hold Brady and the Patriots when everyone is healthy to 21 points, your defense is good enough to win it all. Capers had a great game plan and called a very good game today, and for all we as fans rag on him he deserves equal credit when the defense plays as good as it did today.
The Brewers will finish 90-72 and earn the #1 WC berth.

Carlos Gomez will have a 30/40 season (HR/SB) and win a 2nd Gold Glove en route to an All Star selection.
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
A. Rodgers won this game for the PACK
Without that drop by Adams - the game is over with 5 minutes left

Happy 31st birthday this coming Tues Aaron - Dec 2nd
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sgtpaul
Not without consequences for this win, with Arizona struggling, the Packers are in line for the number one seed if they can win out. Playing home games would be huge for the Packers. Not that they are invincible at Lambeau, but they have to have an off day and the opponent needs to be pretty much flawless.
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thecrackerjack
mrmike527 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
dawgstyle wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
I wonder if Revis still thinks this is the most talented and versatile secondary he has EVER played with
after A. Rodgers pretty much lit them up?


Coming into the game GB was averaging 43.8 ppg at home. I would say 26 is a pretty good job.


I think the points was due to the ENTIRE defense and not the JUST the secondary.
I guess it depends how you look at it.

Getting lit up for 348 NET passing yards is hardly impressive for any secondary.
Perhaps the other secondary's Revis played with weren't very good.
I know he had 2 other all-pro's in the secondary when he was with the Jets one year.
Not sure what he had with TampaBay though.
Seemed an odd statement when Revis made it.



Well look, they're playing against the best QB in the league and they're getting the kitchen sink thrown at them. The reason Rodgers was able to pass so effectively was the Patriots' complete inability to generate pressure. Even that in mind, they managed to limit the damage Rodgers caused by playing extremely tight coverage and forcing perfect execution--which, with the exception of the Adams drop in the 4th, the Packers were mostly able to carry-out.

Though Rodgers was sacked three times, the secondary was stuck covering for 3-4 seconds at a time on almost every play and Rodgers and the WR corps played essentially perfectly. I went in thinking that group is overrated but came away extremely impressed by the Pats secondary. Rodgers was killing it and still only managed a couple scores.


Was it just me or did it seem like part of NE's game plan was to only rush 4, drop 7 into the secondary, and keep Rodgers in the pocket?
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wiscopetty
thecrackerjack wrote:
Was it just me or did it seem like part of NE's game plan was to only rush 4, drop 7 into the secondary, and keep Rodgers in the pocket?
It was.
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
Rodgers usually picks apart teams that blitz a lot.
I think it was expected that NE wouldn't rush much more than their front 4.
I was amazed how even with that, how good the Pack O-line blocked.
Teams don't want to push Rodgers out of the pocket where he is even more dangerous.

I did think they would shoot a linebacker or safety once in a while though.
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mrmike527
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
dawgstyle wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
I wonder if Revis still thinks this is the most talented and versatile secondary he has EVER played with
after A. Rodgers pretty much lit them up?


Coming into the game GB was averaging 43.8 ppg at home. I would say 26 is a pretty good job.


I think the points was due to the ENTIRE defense and not the JUST the secondary.
I guess it depends how you look at it.

Getting lit up for 348 NET passing yards is hardly impressive for any secondary.
Perhaps the other secondary's Revis played with weren't very good.
I know he had 2 other all-pro's in the secondary when he was with the Jets one year.
Not sure what he had with TampaBay though.
Seemed an odd statement when Revis made it.



Well look, they're playing against the best QB in the league and they're getting the kitchen sink thrown at them. The reason Rodgers was able to pass so effectively was the Patriots' complete inability to generate pressure. Even that in mind, they managed to limit the damage Rodgers caused by playing extremely tight coverage and forcing perfect execution--which, with the exception of the Adams drop in the 4th, the Packers were mostly able to carry-out.

Though Rodgers was sacked three times, the secondary was stuck covering for 3-4 seconds at a time on almost every play and Rodgers and the WR corps played essentially perfectly. I went in thinking that group is overrated but came away extremely impressed by the Pats secondary. Rodgers was killing it and still only managed a couple scores.
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bhsblackhawks
warrior2spartan wrote:
dawg, you make some good points about New England playing good defense. Holding Green Bay to 26 at home is stellar defense. And both teams missed opportunities throughout the game. If Gronk holds onto the ball for a split second longer, it is probably a touchdown. If Green Bay converts their red zone field goals into touchdowns, this game isn't even close. This is the type of game I expected and enjoy seeing the Packers win. They will need the confidence gained from a win like this down the road.

The most impressive aspect of the game yesterday was the Packer defense. Held New England to 84 yards on the ground and made key stops at pivotal moments in the game. Great to see after so many subpar defensive efforts in recent past.

Why are people saying this? When he went to the ground, the ball hit the turf and you could see it move around in his arms. It would have been incomplete even if it didn't pop out at the end. It probably would've been called complete on the field as the ref couldn't see it from where he was at, but that one camera angle shows the ball moving after hitting the ground pretty clearly. It would have been terrible officiating if it wasn't overturned.
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wiscopetty
It was an OK gameplan by the Patriots defensively, but it really only works when you have the personnel to apply pressure when bringing just three or four (Giants, Lions, etc.)
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paladium
I would like to point something out that I've been thinking about a lot recently. I don't want to make McCarthy and Capers out to be geniuses or anything, but..

1- This offense is showing a new wrinkle every week. Whether it was the sudden emergence of Lacy in the passing game 4 weeks ago, or the change up to a heavy 2 TE set a couples weeks back, to this past Sunday 2 WRs as RBs. I honest to God view this offense as only 75% complete right now. I believe that right now the Packers have at least 4-5 different formations and anywhere from 2-5 play sets off of each that have not been shown. As far as the sets they have shown go, I believe each one has new wrinkles. As in, how would a defense react to an I formation featuring Lacy as the up back and Cobb as the deep back? Is it a quick hand off to Lacy, a hand off to Cobb either following Lacy or on a cutback, or 1 or the other going outside for either a swing pass or a screen? I just believe that this offense is adding 1 or 2 new looks and wrinkles each week with the goal of smothering opposing DCs in film they have to prepare for. My guess is we may start to see some early play calls we havn't seen much of in recent weeks start to make another appearance, only their will be a second layer or a new wrinkle to them.

2- On defense, I feel the same. How about that NASCAR package, huh? We havn't seen that in 4-5 weeks. Does anyone honestly think that the Packers have abandoned that lineup because Mark Ingram ran through it? I bet no.. I bet that Capers has added another wrinkle to it and we'll see a new incarnation of it in the next couple weeks. I expect to continue to see new wrinkles and personal groups on defense each week for the rest of the season, as Capers (and McCarthy) want to make opposing offenses prepare for a variety of groupings.

Basically, my point is.. I expect that with the current roster and athletes that McCarthy and Capers are going to be adding new wrinkles and schemes each week to both confuse opposing teams but also force them to prepare for an ever widening package of schemes and plays.
The Brewers will finish 90-72 and earn the #1 WC berth.

Carlos Gomez will have a 30/40 season (HR/SB) and win a 2nd Gold Glove en route to an All Star selection.
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mrmike527
thecrackerjack wrote:
mrmike527 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
dawgstyle wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
I wonder if Revis still thinks this is the most talented and versatile secondary he has EVER played with
after A. Rodgers pretty much lit them up?


Coming into the game GB was averaging 43.8 ppg at home. I would say 26 is a pretty good job.


I think the points was due to the ENTIRE defense and not the JUST the secondary.
I guess it depends how you look at it.

Getting lit up for 348 NET passing yards is hardly impressive for any secondary.
Perhaps the other secondary's Revis played with weren't very good.
I know he had 2 other all-pro's in the secondary when he was with the Jets one year.
Not sure what he had with TampaBay though.
Seemed an odd statement when Revis made it.



Well look, they're playing against the best QB in the league and they're getting the kitchen sink thrown at them. The reason Rodgers was able to pass so effectively was the Patriots' complete inability to generate pressure. Even that in mind, they managed to limit the damage Rodgers caused by playing extremely tight coverage and forcing perfect execution--which, with the exception of the Adams drop in the 4th, the Packers were mostly able to carry-out.

Though Rodgers was sacked three times, the secondary was stuck covering for 3-4 seconds at a time on almost every play and Rodgers and the WR corps played essentially perfectly. I went in thinking that group is overrated but came away extremely impressed by the Pats secondary. Rodgers was killing it and still only managed a couple scores.


Was it just me or did it seem like part of NE's game plan was to only rush 4, drop 7 into the secondary, and keep Rodgers in the pocket?


The issue with this type of strategy is that when the line is playing well, you can't really apply pressure and keep Rodgers in the pocket and drop 7 into coverage. The offense did a great job of making them pay whenever they tried anything cute. Lacy had some big runs early when the Pats came out in double-high safety and dared the Packers to run. Rodgers delivered some strikes from the pocket when they were rushing 4. Rodgers got out of the pocket when they didn't commit to stopping him from doing so.

If the Pats could have generated more pressure with their front-4 it would have been a different story, but Linsley and Bakhtiari are both constantly improving and this O-Line is starting to look incredible.
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