jtownsupporter
Maybe PPF will count this as the official one. If not oh well, it gives something to post.

Anyways since it has been a big topic of debate today (and i couldn't think of anything else creative)...

What is your reaction to LeBron walking off without shaking hands with any of the Magic players or speaking with the media after the game?

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mstein34
I'm going to get skewered for this but;
i'm already sick of lebron. I honestly hope the next 12-15 years pass quickly without him getting a ring.


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I think he should have congratulated the Magic players. I saw late in the game where he fouled Howard hard, and then gave him a bit of an 'atta boy' slap....so I don't think he was being a sore loser....but frustration or not, he should have stayed on the floor for a few minutes.

As for the media things, I know it is in the contract to do the post game thing, but I don't have a problem with him not staying on the floor to talk (isn't that for the winning players anyway?) and I really don't have a problem with the post game in this situation. The reporters wouldn't have asked many questions about the game....it would have been..."do you have enough help", "will you stay in Clevelans"...etc types of questions. I have no problem with him ditching those questions. The post game should be only be questions about the game, until the NBA makes a rule for that, I don't mind any player skipping out on it.
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He is one of the biggest icon's in sports these days and by him not showing the sportsmanship effort that should have been shown, he is setting a poor example for younger kids. If a grade school kid, middle school, high school kid is watching this, they may not immediately take the practice of poor sportsmanship, but in the long run, if LeBron doesn't do it why should I effort may come into play.

Again he is one of the biggest faces in sports these days next to Tiger Woods and others. He has to own up to facing a tough loss and being able to respect not only his opponents but also the media.


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j_townsupporter wrote:


Maybe PPF will count this as the official one. If not oh well, it gives something to post.

Anyways since it has been a big topic of debate today (and i couldn't think of anything else creative)...

What is your reaction to LeBron walking off without shaking hands with any of the Magic players or speaking with the media after the game?

**As always quality and explanation of answers is valued.


Sorry guys, forgot about it. We can do this one.
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Yes, he should have stayed on the court to shake hands. From all different sports, kids from little league to high school play eachother and go all out for the win. Then, after the game is over, they get into lines and shake hands congratulating the other team for a good game. Of course, there has been some un-sportsmanlike actions after a football game when I still played, but the way that game went, it was bound to happen. Outside of that little delay, I honestly think that it should be a requirement that teams shake hands and congratulate the other team on the game afterwards. The losing team may be frustrated and not feel like doing it, but its all in the name of sportsmanship which every player should have.
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I think it's blown out of proportion a little bit. He was upset that he lost the big game. Should he have shaken their hands? Yes, but he didn't and i dont think its that big of a deal honestly. For the most part, LeBron has handled himself pretty well thus far for his career, this one just got the best of him. Lets face it, he isn't the first person to walk off the court without shaking hands. His emotions just got the best of him in this instence.
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Let me first start off by saying this has become quite a heated debate on the NBA board and I and basically only one other poster have been defending Lebron throughout these playoffs. In this instance, I automatically defended him. The Cavs won 66 games in the regular season, winning the most out of any other team in the NBA and won the #1 overall seed meaning they'd get homecourt should they have made it to the Finals. There were so many people siding with Cleveland that they'd win it all and after the Cavs swept the first two series 4-0 each, the Cavs looked to be on a path of destruction cruising to a championship...then they ran into Dwight Howard.

It was the most frustrating series to watch by far because it was defensive lapse after defensive lapse. They completely strayed from what got them there. They won based on team defense throughout the regular season then their HC Mike Brown adjusted their defense for some reason and just got slaughtered defensively. It was frustrating to watch, I can't imagine what it was like to be playing in the games. Lebron had to make a huge last second shot that we all saw in game 2 which if he wouldn't have made they could have ultimately be swept by game 4. Then i game 5, Lebron had an amazing 4th quarter to put the series at 3-2 making it ultra-competitive. So many expectations were on Lebron that when they lost in game 6, it had to be the hardest loss he has ever been apart of. I didn't blame him at first, as he walked off the court, got dressed with his headphones on and walked immediately to the bus. Being as competitive as I am, I defended it because I couldn't imagine being in his shoes. Then his quote came out the next day....it went like this....

"It's hard for me to congratulate somebody after you just lose to them. I mean, I'm a winner. That's not being a poor sport or anything like that," he told reporters Sunday in Cleveland. "Somebody beat you up, you're not going to congratulate them on beating you up."

I can't defend that. He should have taken a completely different approach to his statement. I know you want to see guys be honest, but when you're under as much criticism as Lebron is, he's got to be careful as to what he says and saying you can't congratulate somebody after they beat you really shocked me coming from him.

On the other hand, Lebron is 24. Kobe this year, although it may be on big facad, has made himself out to be a loveable guy to the media where he wasn't such in his younger years. Lebron will find his niche in the media as he grows older, hears the responses and finds ways to get his point across while keeping everyone happy. It's sad to say guys have to sugar coat everything in the media, but that's how it has become over the last few years. We speculate and argue over a few words or a slip of the tongue of a high profile athlete when in reality, they're human, they're not PR experts.


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70runner
I think he was upset that some of the Magic players untucked their jerseys....

You know what, I can understand being upset or disappointed after a loss, you should be, if your not there is something wrong with you. But I would never let my kids pull a stunt like that, so why should he as an adult get a free pass? And then even after a day to think about it, he comes out with that quote that CC02 posted. Uh LeBron, that is the very definition of sore loser. He may have made a mistake initially and if he would have came out apologized and said his emotions got the better of him etc. this whole thing probably goes away. His defense of his actions may be worse than the initial actions themselves...at least initially there were emotions that maybe got in the way. his defense of those actions after having time to think about it, makes you wonder....and for me I lost a ton of respect for him.
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wizzler
mstein34 wrote:


I'm going to get skewered for this but;
i'm already sick of lebron. I honestly hope the next 12-15 years pass quickly without him getting a ring.

I second that motion. I think lebron is awesome and i think he is a legit fellow but I don't like his hype, and it is not his fault but I still do not want him to get a ring. It was all lebron and melo for that draft class and wade was an afterthought. Wade has the ring right now and I selfishly want it to stay that way. Wage was under appreciated and being a huge MU follower it is nice to know all the media people can't take that ring away from him.


That being said, I think anytime a player walks off the court after a toughloss in this type of manner it is excusable. He didn't pull a randy moss and ditch his teammates. He was out there to the end. His heart wasn't in it. If I was an opposing player, I don't know if I would want a half hearted or probably even a no hearted congratulations anyways especially one that is merely a formality.


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Let me first start off by saying this has become quite a heated debate on the NBA board and I and basically only one other poster have been defending Lebron throughout these playoffs. In this instance, I automatically defended him. The Cavs won 66 games in the regular season, winning the most out of any other team in the NBA and won the #1 overall seed meaning they'd get homecourt should they have made it to the Finals. There were so many people siding with Cleveland that they'd win it all and after the Cavs swept the first two series 4-0 each, the Cavs looked to be on a path of destruction cruising to a championship...then they ran into Dwight Howard.

It was the most frustrating series to watch by far because it was defensive lapse after defensive lapse. They completely strayed from what got them there. They won based on team defense throughout the regular season then their HC Mike Brown adjusted their defense for some reason and just got slaughtered defensively. It was frustrating to watch, I can't imagine what it was like to be playing in the games. Lebron had to make a huge last second shot that we all saw in game 2 which if he wouldn't have made they could have ultimately be swept by game 4. Then i game 5, Lebron had an amazing 4th quarter to put the series at 3-2 making it ultra-competitive. So many expectations were on Lebron that when they lost in game 6, it had to be the hardest loss he has ever been apart of. I didn't blame him at first, as he walked off the court, got dressed with his headphones on and walked immediately to the bus. Being as competitive as I am, I defended it because I couldn't imagine being in his shoes. Then his quote came out the next day....it went like this....

"It's hard for me to congratulate somebody after you just lose to them. I mean, I'm a winner. That's not being a poor sport or anything like that," he told reporters Sunday in Cleveland. "Somebody beat you up, you're not going to congratulate them on beating you up."

I can't defend that. He should have taken a completely different approach to his statement. I know you want to see guys be honest, but when you're under as much criticism as Lebron is, he's got to be careful as to what he says and saying you can't congratulate somebody after they beat you really shocked me coming from him.

On the other hand, Lebron is 24. Kobe this year, although it may be on big facad, has made himself out to be a loveable guy to the media where he wasn't such in his younger years. Lebron will find his niche in the media as he grows older, hears the responses and finds ways to get his point across while keeping everyone happy. It's sad to say guys have to sugar coat everything in the media, but that's how it has become over the last few years. We speculate and argue over a few words or a slip of the tongue of a high profile athlete when in reality, they're human, they're not PR experts.
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