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elsmith4 wrote:


He should of gone to Michigan, but what player wouldn't want to go where they are more famous? I mean I just hate schools like USC and Texas, I love watching USC lose because they are spoiled with talent every single year. Why can't Wisconsin get some top national recruits sometimes? I mean look at them they get pretty much every player from Wisconsin and they still compete year after year.


Reasons:

#1 - Schools like Texas, USC, Oklahoma, LSU and the like are NFL factories. If a kid can make it onto their starting line-up, odds are decent that he'll get drafted. I'm not saying he'll be an NFL star, but the odds of being drafted are certainly higher. Case in point is Matt Cassel, a 4 year backup at USC.

#2 - November - March in Wisconsin or Southern California/Florida. Hmmm, I wonder why more don't come here?

#3 - Most of these players ARE instate guys. Sure, a Florida, LSU, or USC can go into any state and get players, but a lot of their talent is home grown. Wisconsin simply does not have the instate populace needed to produce talent to create perpetual BCS caliber teams. And unless you have the name recognition/history/prestige of a Notre Dame or Alabama, you need to win big games and win them often to get major out of state recruits.
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gotspine52
Is it just me or does everyone else think that if USC would play in the Rose Bowl they would have won?
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paladium
Mr_mike527 wrote:


I thought Pryor played like an great College QB today, but let's be honest here--he looked like a guy who would make a terrible NFL QB. If he had gone to Michigan, there's no way he would get a shot at QB in the NFL. Not after playing in the spread.

He's going to have to improve a lot to be an NFL QB, but Ohio State's system is the one to do it in.


Pryor made an alright choice in Ohio State, but he could have done better.

If he is dead serious about being an NFL QB, he should have went to a school that has a history of turning out NFL QBs (recent history) to go with a coach who is known as a QB guru.
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GotSpine52 wrote:


Is it just me or does everyone else think that if USC would play in the Rose Bowl they would have won?


I disagree. USC stunk this year.

OSU's offense came a long way from September to today.
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elsmith4
Are any of Wisconsin's O-lineman(who are all returning) looking good for the 2011 draft?
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spintothetop
Paladium wrote:


elsmith4 wrote:


He should of gone to Michigan, but what player wouldn't want to go where they are more famous? I mean I just hate schools like USC and Texas, I love watching USC lose because they are spoiled with talent every single year. Why can't Wisconsin get some top national recruits sometimes? I mean look at them they get pretty much every player from Wisconsin and they still compete year after year.


Reasons:

#1 - Schools like Texas, USC, Oklahoma, LSU and the like are NFL factories. If a kid can make it onto their starting line-up, odds are decent that he'll get drafted. I'm not saying he'll be an NFL star, but the odds of being drafted are certainly higher. Case in point is Matt Cassel, a 4 year backup at USC.

#2 - November - March in Wisconsin or Southern California/Florida. Hmmm, I wonder why more don't come here?

#3 - Most of these players ARE instate guys. Sure, a Florida, LSU, or USC can go into any state and get players, but a lot of their talent is home grown. Wisconsin simply does not have the instate populace needed to produce talent to create perpetual BCS caliber teams. And unless you have the name recognition/history/prestige of a Notre Dame or Alabama, you need to win big games and win them often to get major out of state recruits.


Not totally true at all. If you remember Barry Alvarez got us commitments from alot of highly saught after recruits out of california and texas while he had the rains. When he retired Maurice Jones-Drew was committed to wisconsin and decommitted when Barry stepped down and went on to go to UCLA. We can land some of the bigger name athletes from other states especially considering we have been very consistant for a while now. People always say weather is the issue, but these big names aren't chosing weather they are choosing history and winning. Notre Dame isn't much better weather then Wisconsin yet they consistantly have top recruiting classes based on there winning tradition they use to have. These top athletes are choosing schools where they have a chance to win a National title and get heavy media coverage to showcase their talent for the NFL.

Now another thing I believe is wisconsin as a state the athletes here are heavily undervalued year in and year out. We have become TE U over Miami and Olineman U. We have also produced some very very good running backs out of the Milwaukee area: Brian Calhoun, John Clay, Brent Moss, Michael Bennett, Booker Stanley was affective while at Madison. And there is no denying this as much as it pains me to say this we have done a very good job under Brett developing some very good defensive players such Schofield. From what i have heard on the Army All-American game Konrad Zagzebski is one of the most physical and talented linebackers at the practices so far. He is getting rave reviews so far, could he take the place of schofield as a true freshman.
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spintothetop wrote:


Paladium wrote:


elsmith4 wrote:


He should of gone to Michigan, but what player wouldn't want to go where they are more famous? I mean I just hate schools like USC and Texas, I love watching USC lose because they are spoiled with talent every single year. Why can't Wisconsin get some top national recruits sometimes? I mean look at them they get pretty much every player from Wisconsin and they still compete year after year.


Reasons:

#1 - Schools like Texas, USC, Oklahoma, LSU and the like are NFL factories. If a kid can make it onto their starting line-up, odds are decent that he'll get drafted. I'm not saying he'll be an NFL star, but the odds of being drafted are certainly higher. Case in point is Matt Cassel, a 4 year backup at USC.

#2 - November - March in Wisconsin or Southern California/Florida. Hmmm, I wonder why more don't come here?

#3 - Most of these players ARE instate guys. Sure, a Florida, LSU, or USC can go into any state and get players, but a lot of their talent is home grown. Wisconsin simply does not have the instate populace needed to produce talent to create perpetual BCS caliber teams. And unless you have the name recognition/history/prestige of a Notre Dame or Alabama, you need to win big games and win them often to get major out of state recruits.


Not totally true at all. If you remember Barry Alvarez got us commitments from alot of highly saught after recruits out of california and texas while he had the rains. When he retired Maurice Jones-Drew was committed to wisconsin and decommitted when Barry stepped down and went on to go to UCLA. We can land some of the bigger name athletes from other states especially considering we have been very consistant for a while now. People always say weather is the issue, but these big names aren't chosing weather they are choosing history and winning. Notre Dame isn't much better weather then Wisconsin yet they consistantly have top recruiting classes based on there winning tradition they use to have. These top athletes are choosing schools where they have a chance to win a National title and get heavy media coverage to showcase their talent for the NFL.

Now another thing I believe is wisconsin as a state the athletes here are heavily undervalued year in and year out. We have become TE U over Miami and Olineman U. We have also produced some very very good running backs out of the Milwaukee area: Brian Calhoun, John Clay, Brent Moss, Michael Bennett, Booker Stanley was affective while at Madison. And there is no denying this as much as it pains me to say this we have done a very good job under Brett developing some very good defensive players such Schofield. From what i have heard on the Army All-American game Konrad Zagzebski is one of the most physical and talented linebackers at the practices so far. He is getting rave reviews so far, could he take the place of schofield as a true freshman.



Alvarez was the HC of Wisconsin through the 2005 season. MJD was in the 2003 class. How could MJD switch his commitment because of what you just said?

I don't remember MJD possibility going to UW. In fact, UW isn't on his list of schools if you look at his recruiting profile. Maybe you "misremember."
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spintothetop
If you have a rivals membership one of the articles about now favors Arizona Sun Devils. In the Article Drews drops verbal commitment to Wisconsin now favors Sun Devils and UCLA, drops wisconsin from his list of schools. Change came due to a talk with Barry Alveraz saying he won't be around for the next 4 years at Wisconsin. If you notice Arizona isn't on that list either any more.

This regime change was in planning for some time from Barry to Brett.
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wis.gator_old
spintothetop wrote:


This regime change was in planning for some time from Barry to Brett.


Well, this is known. But I doubt MJD knew who the successor was going to be at the time. He committed in July of 2003 to UCLA. Brett was still at Kansas State for the 2003 season before coming to Wisconsin in 2004.

July 2003 is a pretty early commitment. It also looks like MJD was giving a lot of coaches mixed signals during his recruitment. He was never going to Madison even if the situation was stable.

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mrmike527
I thought Pryor played like an great College QB today, but let's be honest here--he looked like a guy who would make a terrible NFL QB. If he had gone to Michigan, there's no way he would get a shot at QB in the NFL. Not after playing in the spread.

He's going to have to improve a lot to be an NFL QB, but Ohio State's system is the one to do it in.
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