I'd like to comment on what I find hilarious about this topic and situation, because it really is hilarious.
Since who knows when, the WISAA was thought of as the weak, little sister of the WIAA.
WISAA championships meant nothing to the big bad WIAA, and when the merger was approved, there was non issue whatsoever with it being based upon enrollement.
Now that private schools have shown that some of them have outstanding athletic programs, all of a sudden its "we need to make it fair," "send them back to the WISAA," and crap like that.
And, perhaps the funniest part about this discussion. Some of you get so worked up over it, but nothing will change! You can argue until you are blue in the face, and what you say will have no impact! How so? Well, look at it this way. Where is the WIAA based? Larger cities, with private schools. With private schools in the WIAA, they get more revenue, and have more pull than they would before hand, when the WISAA was an option for a school to go to. Moving privates up in divisions won't help any, because as they move up the divisions, their press coverage increases. The more press coverage they get, the more kids hear about them and want to go there. The more kids that go there, the more money they get from tuition and donations, meaning they can provide better education services, meaning once more more kids will go there.
Want some proposals that are being considered in other states?
Kentucky: After transferring schools, a student may not compete at any high school level for 1 year, and may not compete at the varsity level for two years. This rules goes both ways, with the sole exception being the family moving to another district. The private school, for living purposes, is considered to have the same housing district as the public school in who's district it is in. So, unless you move to another district, your child must spend two years ineligble to play Varsity ball. Doesn't that seem fair? It would effectly end transferring for athletic purposes, as what kid would want to transfer only to sit out two years, and how many families will pack up and move to a complete new district as well?
Want an attorneys perspective? Here's one: The reason is that coaches from some public high schools are complaining that private high schools are winning too many state championships. The solution favored by some of these coaches, mostly from outstate Missouri, is to establish separate state championships for public and private high schools in every sport except football.
This proposal does not simply pit public schools against private schools. It has also sparked a debate between public schools that don't want to compete against private schools and those that do. Considering that public schools are divided on the issue, there would appear to be another solution that has not yet been proposed. Why don't the public schools that don't want to compete against private schools form their own athletic association?
If some public schools don't want to take part in tournaments with private schools, let them have their way. But don't let them impose their views on the public schools that want to play in competitive tournaments in which all high schools are welcome. If some public schools want to implement dual state championships in most sports, so be it. But they should not prevent other public schools from playing in the more competitive championship tournament if that's what these schools want to do.
So, you don't like playing privates, you get your school to form a new association. Don't ruin it for the schools that love the competition that some private schools provide. Do you ever hear Stratford, Gilmore, Elva-Strum, Iola, Hilbert complaining? No. I have yet to hear a school that is consistently a winner complain about the current arrangement, it is mainly those who no longer play ball, those whose teams never beat private schools, or those who have a personal bias against private schools.
Also, something interesting to note. Nationwide, it has been found that within the community where the Private school is located, there is no issues between schools. In Eau Claire, there are no issues between the private system and the public system. It is generally the outsiders, the ones who are not actually involved, who bring up issues and make them issues. It is rarely the schools who compete with the private schools for students who voice concerns, and not even half of the schools they compete with athletically voice concerns as a system. It is, for the most part, parents and fans of athletic rivals who have problems with private schools. In football, do any of you think that Wisconsin Lutheran has any problems with the other schools in their conference? No. The coaches like WisCo, for the competition provided. It is the parents and outsiders who have the problem.
So, to everyone here, here's some advice.
Unless you go to a private or public school and have talked with your school board, administrators, and coaches about every issue involved, keep your trap shut. If your a parent or alumni and do not know every issue, keep your mouth shut. All these topics are doing is spreading rumors and biases amongst students. Now, I'll follow my own advice, and as I don't know everything involved in this issue, I'll shut up.
1. What did it matter what the WIAA thought of WISAA championships? They were two different associations. The WIAA was supposed to review the merger after 3 years to look at issues that arose from the merger. This is one of the issues that arose from the merger and needs to be addressed. And, this issue is obviously one that was overlooked and not anticipated at the time of the merger. But, they did plan the review the merger, so they knew it was possible that issues may arise and changes may need to be made.
2. It does need to be made "fair"! We aren't asking for special rules so the publics win all the championships. We are asking for ALL schools to play against who they SHOULD be playing against. Right now, it's not that way.
3. What does it really matter where the WIAA office is? The membership is based through out the entire state and that membership is made up of more publics than privates. So your revenue theory really doesn't hold water. Would the WIAA be taking in more revenue then if, as you propose, the publics did pull out of the WIAA? No. And as for the privates going back to WISAA. That would make more sense since they had their own association at one time and, in the eyes of many, this merger isn't working out. There needs to be a change whether it is a multiplier, moving up a division or maybe something that hasn't even been proposed yet. I think just about everyone knows what private schools are around them. So, I don't think the more coverage they get the more kids will want to go there. They have to have the means to go there and if they do have the means, they are probably already going to a private school. In Eau Claire, Regis gets just as much, or more, coverage than Memorial and North do. It seems ECIL doesn't get as much.
So, why would there be an issue? Although, if you are from this area you know that Regis isn't very well liked, whatever the reasons are.
thing is that you don't think that if the public school members of the WIAA complain enough, that something won't be done about this issue.