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hickorycornhusker
Some demographic areas are going to excel in some sports and not in others. The metro areas excel in basketball but in wrestling it is all rural schools bringing home the hardware from Madison. Even in Division 1. The biggest city to have a state team title in wrestling since 2000 is Wausau (West). I'll give you its a big city compared to most cities in Wisconsin but compared to the other cities with Division 1 teams it's rather small. There is no way to level the playing field because some areas are just going to be drawn to compete more in a certain sport.

If you want to bump the private schools up in basketball you should also be looking to bump the private schools down in wrestling. In the Individual State Championships in Division 2 or 3 only 6 wrestlers have come from private schools out of 252 possible champions for a percentage of 2.4. This is the strongest example of one athlete changing the outcome because it is only one athlete competing. There are 210 teams listed in the Tournament Assignment this year in Division 2 and Division 3. 21 of them are private schools comprising 10% of the population yet they are only receiving a quarter of that in state individual championships. Also by the numbers they should have a team state champion in each division and a team runner-up in each division after this year going strictly by percentage. Currently they have zero in both categories. They should have 4 team appearances at state in each division but they currently have zero. They should have 32 combined sectional team appearances by the end of this year. Taking out this year and 2004 since the WIAA doesn't have them they should have about 26. They currently have only 8.
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vici
So maybe my number on Homestead is off- again I prepped it by saying that I was just throwing out number with no backing- but you get my point. And my apologies to all the good people at Homestead.

But, if we're all playing the game of "what if" how about this for a proposal:

Take all schools (football) in D1-3 that qualify and lump them together, and place in 3 divisions ranked according to their population bases. Take remaining 4 divisions and again rank in order based on population of area they draw from. Now you have 7 divisions that are ranked on enrollment, but also on population opportunities.
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j0hnnyrazz54_old
parkside21 wrote:


Vici wrote:


So maybe my number on Homestead is off- again I prepped it by saying that I was just throwing out number with no backing- but you get my point. And my apologies to all the good people at Homestead.




50% of the people with usernames starting with "V" are idiots. See how random numbers just made up and thrown around aren't useful for a quality debate? They just start flaming threads that create more problems than they attempt to solve.

I think some people are over-estimating the abundance of open enrollment transfers. I remember reading something in the statutes once about how open enrollment transfers can only account for a maximum 3% of your student population. Is that still true?


I'm not going to commit to one side or the other, but I will say that I too think people are over-estimating the open enrollment effect. Now, it may be different in other parts of the state, but in the school districts I am familiar with here in the SE, it doesn't have too much of an impact. First, open enrollment students can only enter the district in one year (I think currently its at 7th grade, but it used to be 9th grade). Secondly, districts only open up so many seats in each class, in our district around 40 seats are open each class, and each class is around 300 kids. Third, Open enrollment students after they have applied are assigned a number and the spots are filled by lottery, the district does not know how many males/females they are getting, if the students are athletes or band or theater or academics. I really believe this is a key difference and why open enrollment should not be used to say that public and private schools are in the same situation. Lastly, open enrollment is a hot-topic political issue because many families within my district do not believe that students from other communities should benefit from the schools that they are paying for in taxes.

Please carefully read what I have said, I am not coming down one way or the other in the public/private debate, just trying to give perspective on open enrollment. So don't flame me.
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