safetysqueezepleezzee11
Coach Egg McMuffin yet again blew time management in the last 2 minutes with a 5 point lead. Throws the ball twice, rather than making the Vkings use their timeouts. Suspect the one throw was Rodger's call, but he should have been TOLD to keep the ball on the ground when the team is inside the 20 yard line, with less than 2 minutes and a 5 point lead. Fat head McMuffin lost this game and no one else need be blamed.

Why House is on the team is a mystery. Old man Williams got burned too. Bring back a couple guys who werent good enough to keep when they were let go years back..........????????  Wonder if Thompson was in on those moves?  Seems to be the only one stupid enough to do that.

Pack is damn lucky to even get a tie for this game.
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kenny78
Packers got screwed with the penalty on Matthews. The league needs to pay less attention to the rules about the idiot kneelers and more attention to how they are screwing up the rules for making a tackle. There was nothing bad about the hit, he wasn't up near the head and the ball had just left Cousins' hand. That cost the Packers the win, not any of the other stuff that the wanna-be arm-chair coaches who wouldn't last a day in the seat of the head coach or GM want to try and throw out there.
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Coach Egg McMuffin yet again blew time management in the last 2 minutes with a 5 point lead. Throws the ball twice, rather than making the Vkings use their timeouts. Suspect the one throw was Rodger's call, but he should have been TOLD to keep the ball on the ground when the team is inside the 20 yard line, with less than 2 minutes and a 5 point lead. Fat head McMuffin lost this game and no one else need be blamed.

Why House is on the team is a mystery. Old man Williams got burned too. Bring back a couple guys who weren't good enough to keep when they were let go years back..........????????  Wonder if Thompson was in on those moves?  Seems to be the only one stupid enough to do that.

Pack is damn lucky to even get a tie for this game.


McCarthy is often criticized for being too conservative. Now it's not conservative enough. Adams holds onto that ball, which he should, (he was laying on the ground with it in his breadbasket), it's game over. It's the right call in that situation. The plays were there to be made and weren't. They run twice and kick a FG, sure they've forced the Vikes to use their timeouts, but there's still a buck-forty left, and if you didn't notice, the Vikings drove down and scored only using one of those timeouts. MM getting aggressive there didn't lose the win.

Hope the Packers learned a lesson about conserving timeouts in the second half. Rodgers needs to remember that he's Rodgers, and that a five-yard DOG penalty can easily be overcome, however, you don't get those coins for 40 seconds of game time back, which are oh-so-precious in end game situations.

As far as the Matthews penalty...I mean, come on. That hit could not have been executed any more safely. You now have to "roll off" the QB as if that's just some natural instinct people should have. That's the problem with writing rules based on slow-motion replays for a game played at full speed.
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db11 wrote:


McCarthy is often criticized for being too conservative. Now it's not conservative enough. Adams holds onto that ball, which he should, (he was laying on the ground with it in his breadbasket), it's game over. It's the right call in that situation. The plays were there to be made and weren't. They run twice and kick a FG, sure they've forced the Vikes to use their timeouts, but there's still a buck-forty left, and if you didn't notice, the Vikings drove down and scored only using one of those timeouts. MM getting aggressive there didn't lose the win.

Hope the Packers learned a lesson about conserving timeouts in the second half. Rodgers needs to remember that he's Rodgers, and that a five-yard DOG penalty can easily be overcome, however, you don't get those coins for 40 seconds of game time back, which are oh-so-precious in end game situations.

As far as the Matthews penalty...I mean, come on. That hit could not have been executed any more safely. You now have to "roll off" the QB as if that's just some natural instinct people should have. That's the problem with writing rules based on slow-motion replays for a game played at full speed.


Had the Vikings not had any time outs, any tackle on the field allows the clock to run and additional 8-10-12 seconds. Perhaps the Vikings run up quick a spike it. Then perhaps the Vikings dont make a 1st down by giving up a down on a spike. So many things that could have helped the Packers IF they had made the Vikings use those time outs.  The penalty did suck against Matthews, but I would think after last weeks game Matthews would be a bit 'headier' for a veteran. Never allow the refs to determine the outcome. Clay had to know the ball was already gone, so why wrap him up? Shouldnt have been a penalty isnt going to get the Packers a win - it will stay a tie even with people trying to say Matthews got robbed. The thing to do was to NOT do anything stupid. That was a stupid play by Matthews, esp considering he did a similar thing late in the Bear game.
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mickjagger

Rough weekend in the state of Wisconsin for kickers ....

Agree with Squeeze's comments on Davon House.  I believe House's best days are behind him, if, in fact, he ever had any all-that-great of days to begin with.

 Also agree  with Kenny 78's and DB's comments pertaining to the roughing-the-passer penalty on Clay Matthews.  ESPN & NFL Network are all over that play too !

 

 

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roadkill1
My take away is that Kirk Cousins is better than I thought.
If his rcvrs can learn to hang on to the ball the rest of the NFC is going to have a problem.

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wiscopetty
Huh, I guess I came away feeling completely different about this game than most folks here.

IMO it bodes well for this team that they played Minnesota so well with a hobbled Rodgers and Cousins added into the mix. I did not think they were competitive with the Vikings last year before #12 went down. Obviously the Matthews call was blatantly terrible, yet they were still a Crosby narrow miss away from victory.
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
wiscopetty wrote:
Huh, I guess I came away feeling completely different about this game than most folks here.

IMO it bodes well for this team that they played Minnesota so well with a hobbled Rodgers and Cousins added into the mix. I did not think they were competitive with the Vikings last year before #12 went down. Obviously the Matthews call was blatantly terrible, yet they were still a Crosby narrow miss away from victory.


Packers did play very well thru 3 quarters. What has been happening more and more with McMuffin's teams is they cant finish games. That to me is disappointing.  Pack had to depend on a rookie missing a chip shot FG to get a tie.  Just a sad outcome of a game that the Packers played very well for 3 quarters. I have no idea what Rodgers was thinking when he nearly fumbled the ball. Why on earth would he think he could run a naked run to the opposite side of the action?  I sometimes question Rodgers thinking and that one was just BAD. It clearly looked like he had planned to run to his right had he kept the ball.  Just what the team needs is for Rodgers to be running the ball with a bad wheel. The bad outcomes simply outweighed the possible good outcomes.

Crosby's miss was a little surprising, but it was only for Crosby that the Packers were leading the game. Any FG attempt over 50 yards is probably 75-25 for Crosby in those conditions - unfortunately he was on the 25 for that one and still only missed by less than a foot or so.
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
kenny78 wrote:
Packers got screwed with the penalty on Matthews. The league needs to pay less attention to the rules about the idiot kneelers and more attention to how they are screwing up the rules for making a tackle. There was nothing bad about the hit, he wasn't up near the head and the ball had just left Cousins' hand. That cost the Packers the win, not any of the other stuff that the wanna-be arm-chair coaches who wouldn't last a day in the seat of the head coach or GM want to try and throw out there.


This game should NOT have come down to that poorly called penalty making a difference. Pack left way too many points on the field. Not enough TD's. Evans couldnt wrap the one up late which would have been the clincher. You pay guys the kind of money Evans is getting to catch that ball in that situation. Some other dropped balls and some poorly thrown balls by Rodgers too. Many things in this game should have made Matthews' penalty irrelevant. Dont let the team back in the game!................which the Packers seem to do way too often.

The D-line looked good - the linebackers(esp the OLB didnt look so good). Defensive backs(CB's) just looked sad ONCE AGAIN for the most part.
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db11
wiscopetty wrote:
Huh, I guess I came away feeling completely different about this game than most folks here.

IMO it bodes well for this team that they played Minnesota so well with a hobbled Rodgers and Cousins added into the mix. I did not think they were competitive with the Vikings last year before #12 went down. Obviously the Matthews call was blatantly terrible, yet they were still a Crosby narrow miss away from victory.


Thought similar things. I remember how "debaculous" the O was against them last year (granted one game was with Hundley, IIRC). As the game went on I had no fear of them getting three and outs against the Packers. That says something. It's nice to see a real game plan and I hope this focus on getting the ball out quicker extends beyond Rodgers' injury troubles. Brady's lethal because of it. Hopefully, MM and AR can put the egos aside and embrace it more. Big to see Graham getting involved as well. Williams ran hard.

Defensively, they were actually real good for 3 quarters and change. A miscommunication in the secondary let to one huge play that changed the game. Not sure how House gets matched up on Diggs either. Brice probably not a long-term answer at safety. In that heat though, wilting late was no surprise, that's why MM going for the TD instead of conservatively running it late was a breath of fresh air and the smart play.

They still need edge rushers. Mike Daniels is a warrior. Aaron Rodgers needs to stop burning timeouts in the second half...40 seconds of gametime in the final minutes > losing five yards on a delay penalty.

The result stunk a bit in the end, but I actual feel better about this team than I thought I would after two weeks. Next week is big though. Winnable game before tough stretch.
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mickjagger wrote:

Rough weekend in the state of Wisconsin for kickers ....

Agree with Squeeze's comments on Davon House.  I believe House's best days are behind him, if, in fact, he ever had any all-that-great of days to begin with.

 Also agree  with Kenny 78's and DB's comments pertaining to the roughing-the-passer penalty on Clay Matthews.  ESPN & NFL Network are all over that play too !

 

 



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House is the #5 CB and was in the game because King was hurt during the game. 


Pretty sure everyone who watched the game is aware of that. The announcers mentioned it at least twice that I heard.  The unanswered question is WHY the hell is he even on this team?
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
db11 wrote:


Thought similar things. I remember how "debaculous" the O was against them last year (granted one game was with Hundley, IIRC). As the game went on I had no fear of them getting three and outs against the Packers. That says something. It's nice to see a real game plan and I hope this focus on getting the ball out quicker extends beyond Rodgers' injury troubles. Brady's lethal because of it. Hopefully, MM and AR can put the egos aside and embrace it more. Big to see Graham getting involved as well. Williams ran hard.

Defensively, they were actually real good for 3 quarters and change. A miscommunication in the secondary let to one huge play that changed the game. Not sure how House gets matched up on Diggs either. Brice probably not a long-term answer at safety. In that heat though, wilting late was no surprise, that's why MM going for the TD instead of conservatively running it late was a breath of fresh air and the smart play.

They still need edge rushers. Mike Daniels is a warrior. Aaron Rodgers needs to stop burning timeouts in the second half...40 seconds of gametime in the final minutes > losing five yards on a delay penalty.

The result stunk a bit in the end, but I actual feel better about this team than I thought I would after two weeks. Next week is big though. Winnable game before tough stretch.
  Brice 'bit' on the action on Minny's left side.  Brice missed his assignment, so he has some blame in this too. Not sure it would have made any difference as the ball was thrown perfectly. Cousins read the 'missed' coverage and took advantage. Brice is faster than House, so there was certainly a possibility that he could have broken the pass up as he is much faster than House. Not sure if Brice was the nickel or the dime.
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The Vikings' rookie kicker, Daniel Carlson, he of the Sunday misadventures in overtime, has been released by the Vikes.  In his place, the Vikings have signed former veteran Dallas Cowboy kicker, Dan Bailey.

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db11
  Brice 'bit' on the action on Minny's left side.  Brice missed his assignment, so he has some blame in this too. Not sure it would have made any difference as the ball was thrown perfectly. Cousins read the 'missed' coverage and took advantage. Brice is faster than House, so there was certainly a possibility that he could have broken the pass up as he is much faster than House. Not sure if Brice was the nickel or the dime.


Brice was also the culprit on the Thielen TD. Legit looked like he took his eye off the ball at the last second to avoid a "hitting a defenseless receiver" penalty. Should have been an easy pass breakup, something the Packers DBs didn't have any of yesterday that I recall.
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