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cgrade23 wrote:
I don't understand the thinking about this trade.  Giving up impact players...for what?  It seems like same shhh, different GM


Well, they now have two 1st-round picks next year (we should all be cheering for the Saints to be awful)...and they moved back up and selected a guy from a position of need who fits Pettine's scheme. They now have a nice mix of young talent and wily vets at CB. That's not bad.

I was a bit miffed at the first trade, but I think they came out ahead in the end.

Ultimately doesn't matter who they draft unless they can coach 'em up, which remains to be seen.
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I like the moves Gutt made.  They essentially traded back to 18, picked up a 1st, 5th and 7th for a 3rd and 6th if my memory serves me correctly and still got a high level corner, something they desperately needed.  I understand the need for edge rushing help and there was two on the board, but they have a lot of picks to work with tomorrow.  Our CB situation is way worse than OLB.  Our interior line of Daniels, Wilkerson and Clark should do a ton of damage opening up the outside for pass rushers and that interior line will generate their own pressure.  And even if us and the Saints are both good, two picks in the 20's open up a lot of opportunity to trade up next year.
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cameroncrazies02 wrote:
I like the moves Gutt made.  They essentially traded back to 18, picked up a 1st, 5th and 7th for a 3rd and 6th if my memory serves me correctly and still got a high level corner, something they desperately needed.  I understand the need for edge rushing help and there was two on the board, but they have a lot of picks to work with tomorrow.  Our CB situation is way worse than OLB.  Our interior line of Daniels, Wilkerson and Clark should do a ton of damage opening up the outside for pass rushers and that interior line will generate their own pressure.  And even if us and the Saints are both good, two picks in the 20's open up a lot of opportunity to trade up next year.


The Packers have the picks to move back into the 3rd today as well. Tremendous work by Gute last night. 
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I guess it was kind of a "meh" first night for me. I wonder if they were hoping they could move back and still snag James. I don't think Alexander is a bad pick by any means, but I do worry about his size and injury history.

Let's hope they add some depth at WR and ILB tonight.
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Love to see Te or OL addressed today .








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db11
The narrative is hilarious coming out of the Packers media. These guys feed into fan paranoia so much they can no longer be taken seriously.

"Gutekunst addressed the future, not the present" being my favorite. Uh, duh, it's the draft. Nobody's won Super Bowls solely on the backs of guys they drafted that year.

You draft for depth help and hope one or two of the guys can provide immediate impact.
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cgrade23
Still need a pass rusher.  I have said it before, you only need decent coverage if you have a great pass rush.  Who on this roster can get after the QB CONSISTENTLY, meaning actually being on the field (looking at you Perry and Matthews)?  
I agree that the Packers need an O-Lineman.  Would you take Brown out of Oklahoma?  He is a giant individual.  If TE Dallas Goedert is available, maybe draft him. 
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roadkill1
The Packers just got the steal of the draft!


RK
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roadkill1 wrote:
The Packers just got the steal of the draft!


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                     I hope you are right about Jackson, as I was hoping the Pack would take Connor Williams (OL) from Texas who the Cowboys picked. I think he will be 'another' stud O-lineman for the Cowboys. Too many picks for CB's and SF's early the last few years. Some have had a bit of sucess(HaHa), but overall; their early picks of DB's have just not worked out that great. Would have thought the Pack would have wanted a good O-lineman to protect Rodgers? I do realize the Pack D, sucked last season; but much of it was/is due to the lack of pass rush. DB's and SF's are just not going to change that.
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Teams don't typically use 1st or 2nd round picks for O-line.
Those are typically used on skilled position players.

There are exceptions.
Edit: I just checked, there are about 19 OL picks in the first 100.
But I don't count DL or DE as skilled positions.
So I'm not 100% on my post.
But about 65 are QB, RB, WR, TE, CB, S, LB.

About 15 were DE, DL.

To your point SSP, I look for 2 or 3 lineman to be drafted today by the Packers.

This kid from Vanderbilt is sort of  a stud athletic guy.
Another very good pick IMO.

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4th Round: WR J'Mon Moore (6'3", 207) - Missouri

Scout: J'Mon Moore has a great 1st step & release off the LOS. He was strong all week long at the Senior Bowl.

5th Round: - OT/OG Cole Madison (6'5", 308) - Washington State

Scout: Madison was a right tackle in college, but likely will first be looked at inside in the pros.
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5th Round: P J.K. Scott (6'6", 208) - Alabama

Scout: Big leg and has the ability to handle placements as well.

5th Round: WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling (6'4", 206) - USF

Scout: Deep ball threat with size and speed (4.37), considered by some scouts to be a big sleeper in this draft class.
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6th Round: WR Equanimeous St. Brown (6'5", 214) - Notre Dame

Scout: Big target with 1st-round talent but some issues that cause him to drop, potential to be something special.

Seems pretty clear GB was tired of being slow on offense. St. Brown is a tremendous risk/reward pick in the 6th round. Not sure previous selector would have taken him.
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db11 wrote:
6th Round: WR Equanimeous St. Brown (6'5", 214) - Notre Dame

Scout: Big target with 1st-round talent but some issues that cause him to drop, potential to be something special.

Seems pretty clear GB was tired of being slow on offense. St. Brown is a tremendous risk/reward pick in the 6th round. Not sure previous selector would have taken him.


Interesting read on the Brown family.

https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/09/06/equanimeous-osiris-amonra-st-brown-brothers-family
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What a great story.
Thanks.


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