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honestly...you can not tell me that if we didnt invest a #1 pick in carrol that he would still be around...what exactly has he done right for the packers in his time here? i know its only been a couple years in the nfl for him, but illegal contact/pass interference calls should also go down with maturity, and i havent seen it happening...he should have been cut, but he was a number one pick for us so we dont do it

so the secondary of harris and woodson(which is a risk in itself is) with wishom or bigby or horton would have been satisfying for you?

carroll > any of those bums. i don't know if you remember but the packers where third in the league in VS #1 and #2 wrs. i am not talking yards, i am talking pass comp. % and passes defended. we sucked against #3 wr TE and rb. we are now putting a guy that teamed up with harris to become one of the best combos in the league on our #1 problem. carroll will do great in this role. and carroll will be loved by all. would you seriously be happy with jason horton on the field 35% of the time?


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lg11
For all you people that think Carroll should be cut, tell me how many penalties he had this preseason and what they were. For you lazy people I just did it. He had only 2, one was an offsides and one was a personal foul.
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wizzler
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For all you people that think Carroll should be cut, tell me how many penalties he had this preseason and what they were. For you lazy people I just did it. He had only 2, one was an offsides and one was a personal foul.

and he didn't start the fight

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pinetar
while playing in 30 games with the packers, he has had a grand total of 3 picks and 18 passes defended...obviously im not a gm and ted knows alot more then i do...we probably arent real deep at corner...but for a first round pick these numbers are pretty low and the penalties are still very high i cant find an exact number but im sure it out numbers the total of picks + passes defended...we will see how he progresses this year since we have woodson and harris at the starting two corner spots
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lg11
He had no penalites agaisnt Seattle. None agaisnt the Bears the second time. None agaisn the Ravens. 1 holding call agasint the Lions the second time. None agaisnt the Eagles. None agaisnt the Vikings the second time. 1 pass interferance agaisnt the Falcons. 1 agaisnt the Steelers that was declined. So in his last 13 games hes had a total of 5 penalites. Wow cut his ass.
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wizzler
I saw a report from one of those pay per view premium services (ESPN, I believe) that statistically had Ahmad Carroll as one of the top 20 cover corners in the entire NFL last season. If I remember correctly, the statistics took into effect the amount of completions or completion percentage to receivers which the cornerbacks were covering. In fact, Al Harris was also rated higher than Carroll.

2005: Struggled early in the season with penalties and covering receivers. .... Lost his job to Joey Thomas but got it back when Thomas sustained a concussion and did not play any better. ... Committed 10 penalties in first eight games, but only two in second half of season. Finished with two interceptions. ... Showed potential late in season as a kickoff returner, averaging a team-high 20.5 yards on 19 returns. 2004: It was a trial by fire for Carroll during his rookie season. His penchant for holding and other penalties took away from the fact that he was in position on most pass plays, so the future is bright if Carroll gets a better grasp of the rules. Carroll took over the starting job at left cornerback in the sixth game, against Detroit. He started 11 games and made 53 tackles, one interception and scored one touchdown on his only fumble recovery. Also had two sacks and 10 passes defensed. Was rookie of the week against St. Louis, with an interception in the end zone and the aforementioned fumble recovery and touchdown. In first start against Detroit, Carroll helped limit the Lions to only 92 passing yards.

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wizzler
12 penalties isn't that many considering 4 where in the first game. thats .53 a game

or .125 per game in the second half of the year.

i copied the last post from 2 different websites. so i am not the only person saying it. the second one was scouts.com. people pay for that opinion.

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lg11
^^ You said it, hes improving. So T_Unit, either you dont pat attention to the Packers or you just cannot believe that Carroll is improving as a player.
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