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macandcheese
It is interesting to me that most of the run success was attributed to Eddy Lacey. The Offensive line got better at run blocking as the year went on. Lacey is a stud and starks had a good year also. I am sure the pack will try and upgrade the oline in tt fashion. But please, please address the Safety position on defense.
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coachw12
The fact is the seahawks have a better offensive line coach. Tom Capable actually knows what he is doing. Sure he is an abrasive individual but he knows how to coach the offensive line.

As for Derrick Sherrod, he is a but ladies and gentlemen. Brain Bulaga is a bust as well. He is a bust because he was drafted to be a left tackle but clearly he is not a left tackle.

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coachw12
whfan202 wrote:
I got to give you credit Coach W. You're persistent. You're trying your damndest to troll, but you haven't broken through in a while. [afro]



I always like people like you. If someone does not agree with you or what people are saying on a thread they are deemed a troll by the people who do not like what they are saying. so much for recognizing peoples right to different opinions.
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wlhssuperjake08
coachw12 wrote:
whfan202 wrote:
I got to give you credit Coach W. You're persistent. You're trying your damndest to troll, but you haven't broken through in a while. [afro]



I always like people like you. If someone does not agree with you or what people are saying on a thread they are deemed a troll by the people who do not like what they are saying. so much for recognizing peoples right to different opinions.


I'm pretty sure you were trolling WAY before this thread, "Coach". I'm sure if I had the time, I could go back in some old Brewers threads and dig up some goodies.
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whfan202
coachw12 wrote:
whfan202 wrote:
I got to give you credit Coach W. You're persistent. You're trying your damndest to troll, but you haven't broken through in a while. [afro]



I always like people like you. If someone does not agree with you or what people are saying on a thread they are deemed a troll by the people who do not like what they are saying. so much for recognizing peoples right to different opinions.

[rotfl] [rotfl] [rotfl]

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1. Where did I EVER say I was in disagreement?

2. You're deemed a troll because your reputation precedes you. Jake, do some digging, my man.

3. This is the internet. If someone doesn't agree with you or like your opinion, you're going to get flak. Seen you do that before, so get off your high horse.
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whfan202
coachw12 wrote:
The fact is the seahawks have a better offensive line coach. Tom Capable actually knows what he is doing. Sure he is an abrasive individual but he knows how to coach the offensive line.

As for Derrick Sherrod, he is a but ladies and gentlemen. Brain Bulaga is a bust as well. He is a bust because he was drafted to be a left tackle but clearly he is not a left tackle.


Back to the football talk. Once again, Coach: How do you play the bust card over and over when you don't have a sample size large enough?? Does he have a reputation as a turnstile? Not that I know of. As for Bulaga, he tore his ACL. ANY PLAYER IN THE NFL WHO DOES THAT IS GOING TO BE OUT FOR A WHILE. Bulaga has been just fine and he'll be out there to compete at right tackle. Even YOU must know he's going to be a better option than Barclay.

Edit: Holy crap, you don't make sense at all. Bulaga was drafted to replace Chad Clifton and then he was forced to play right tackle. There's not too much difference, other than not protecting a quarterback's blind side. Newhouse wasn't cutting it, so we were prepping Bulaga to play LT again and then he got hurt. We thrust Bakhtiari in at LT and he did well, so we're rewarding him with the starting job at that spot and then starting Bulaga at RT.
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mrmike527
Are people sure that Bakhtiari is going to play LT next year? I think he has the upper hand with Bulaga coming off the ACL, but I don't think they're necessarily just going to give him the position--my impression was that Barclay played at least comparably, probably marginally better given the number of penalties Bakhtiari was called for.

Also--OL wasn't bad at all this year. I thought they did a decent job in pass protection and had a lot of good games with the run. They're not really helped on the sack front by Rodgers and Flynn, who both have a tendency to hold the ball when they're struggling. PFF, which grades film for all teams, puts them at 12th in the league.

Just realize that the vast, vast majority of teams' fans--probably like 25 or 26 out of 32--think their OL is far below average. You typically only think about the OL when it messes up, and you spend very little time paying attention to the other team's OL unless it's extremely bad. The Packers interior line was actually excellent this year. Dietrich-Smith played very well, Sitton was an All-Pro, and Lang is a solid, reliable starter. The tackles were both in their first years, and they both played pretty well given their inexperience. Newhouse seems to have gotten worse and worse, but his filling in seemed like the only big blemish. They got the run game working even when Starks and Franklin were starting early in the season as well, if you remember.

The point here is that the Packers have done a poor job developing their linemen--I think it does point to the positional coaching, and there are a handful of guys who were genuinely awful for the Packers who have found legitimate success in other places. But that doesn't mean the OL was bad this year. Some guys have developed, and given that even the guys who were bad with the Packers found success elsewhere, I think Thompson has done a very underrated job loading the line with talent.
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db11
macandcheese wrote:
It is interesting to me that most of the run success was attributed to Eddy Lacey. The Offensive line got better at run blocking as the year went on. Lacey is a stud and starks had a good year also. I am sure the pack will try and upgrade the oline in tt fashion. But please, please address the Safety position on defense.

I've said it before, I'm not sure if it's the causation but the Packers running game has been way better since Don Barclay entered the fray. Brings just the right amount of attitude to his play...much different from recent washouts like Colledge and Newhouse.
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When projecting a starting offensive line for the Packers next season, it appears to me that people are forgetting that Evan Dietrich-Smith is an unrestricted free agent. And I, for one, wouldn't be a bit surpised if another team is willing to pay him more than the Packers would or should pay him.

With that in mind, I fully expect to see David Bakhtiari return as the starting left tackle, Bryan Bulaga return to his old position at right tackle and Don Barclay and 2nd-yr man JC Tretter battle it out for the starting center position, with the odd man out at center backing up the guard & center positions and Derek Sherrod backing up both tackle positions. Marshall Newhouse, I believe, has probably played his last game as a Packer.

It should be noted that JC Tretter was drafted ahead of David Bakhtiari as a tackle last April and if not for a broken ankle suffered in training camp, probably would've been the 1st man in at left tackle when Bulaga went down instead of Bakhtiari. Lost opportunity.

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