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Good point HSFan on the strains of ice time. A recent article in the Journal Sentinel talks about a smaller revised plan to the failed Ice Port on the south side of Milwaukee. With girls high school hockey exploding in Wisconsin ice time will continue to be a challenge for many programs moving forward. Just take into consideration that Catholic Memorial wasn't able to schedule a game on their home ice this week and is traveling out to Delafield to play a conference game. I could only imagine the trouble if CMH and Pius still had their JV teams.

I also recently heard that Arrowhead has cleared one of two major hurdles to add a second on campus rink to help facilitate more practice time at the youth level. Scary to think one progam has literately consumed all of the available ice time at their current rink and needs another sheet to keep up with the demand.
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oldman1
Okay so I was told not to play with fire, here I go. In The Know and Power_Play again are "in the know" because they look at facts and don't speak on emotion.

Let's let the year play out because the year is young. But if by geography we are to take the southern most 44 teams and the northern most 44 teams you will find that the south has a two to one wins to loss ratio. If you do the same thing West to East the East has a slight advantage. If we tilt the axis to Northwest to Southeast the Southeast has I believe a game advantage.

I have it by section and by conference. Hats of to section 7 and Classic 8 they truely have improved. Unfortunately, the numbers are at home and they should be right with an error factor of only a game or two. We can compare at the end of the year and see what everyone else has.

The only thing that stands out is South has won more games than the north has by a good ratio. The others areas only have small advantages, meaning that there probably is no difference between between teams top to bottom.

Some of the comments about good south teams running up stats, scores, etc. against weaker competition is not holding up. It may be the other way around. I believe at the end of the year you will see that there really is no difference, top to bottom, between North and South, East and West, Northwest to Southeast, Section whatever to Section whatever, Conference whatever to Conference whatever, etc.

You may see one or two weaker sections and conferences. The thing that I think we will see is that the Classic 8 has made some huge improvements in the last couple years. Because of that the same thing can be said for Section 7. It also proves something else that I believe. The schools with larger enrollments tend to have stronger hockey teams than smaller schools. That is why the Pines of the world are so impressive to me with what they do with the numbers they have.

Don't believe me, check it yourself. In some instances the distance between two geographical locations was not much but how else can you do it objectively. Like I said any difference will be small in the long run. Give the south to southeastern part of the state credit for the improvements in the last few years. In the south, the Madison area seems to be losing to the Milwaukee area. The shift has been on and I predict it will continue.

I'll let you know what the numbers are in March when it is all over with. "Can't we all just get along" [image]http://www.wissports.net/playground/image/s14.gif[/image] and work to improve the quality of hockey in the state and see more move on to the next level.[image]http://www.wissports.net/playground/image/s2.gif[/image]
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Ok say USM and Arrowhead play to go to state out of that section. You don't think there'd be any crying about that game possibly being the state championship?

I don't think they would be that stupid considering there are teams like Eau Clairie Memorial, Stevens Point, Fond du Lac, Rapids, Pines, Hudson, Tomah, Eau Claire North, New Richmond and Superior walking on this planet.
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oldman1
I'll post this now and then again after the state tourney. This is current through last nights games. As I said the South will rise again!!!

If we geographically take the most northern 44 teams and the most southern 44 teams the South is 21-13. Do the same East and West and the East is 15-11. How about Northwest and Southeast? Southeast is 12-6.

Let's get more insane!!! Geographically place 22 teams in the Northwest, Northeast, Southwest, and Southeast. Southwest 18-7, Soputheast 13-13, Northeast 10-16, and Northwest 4-9.

By Sections: 7 19-12, 6 10-7, 4 12-10, 8 12-12, 2 8-11, 1 4-6, 3 4-6, and 5 3-8.

By Conference: Classic 8 11-4, Badger South 11-5,Big Rivers 6-4, Northwest Central 6-5Badger North 9-9, Big 8 3-3, Southern Badgerland 3-3, Wisconsin Valley 3-3, Independents 12-13, Middle Border 2-3, North Shore 6-11, Lumberjack 1-5, and Northern Badgerland 1-6.

Just the facts Jack!!! Draw your own conclusions.
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hsfan
Cap Ice tried to add a third sheet about a year ago, but got turned down by the City of Middleton for some reason. I hadn't heard they were making another effort.
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oldman1
Dalton I agree with you. Many others said that stats are higher in the south beacuse the competition in the south is weaker than the North. I believe it is pretty equal across the state. Champion from the North? Based upon the past, scores, etc. I will bet that you are right.

nanelson1565 I agree with you on getting better as a state. That being said there is word on the street that Pat Johnson has spoken with UW and may join the Badgers as soon as next year. He is also talking to some other schools as well. Keagen Meuer was also named USHL player of the week.

Other big news in a paper down here last night mentioned that an association in the south has signed an agreement with a city to build a new two sheet rink by fall of 2009. Possible expansion for a "studio" rink may also be in the initial plans.

Being we all are experts in what is going on in the hockey world, who is building the new rink and has now moved into the process of selling the current rink and fundraising?
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hsfan
Congrats to Sun Prairie on getting their new rink. I know they've been talking about this for a number of years.

I also read that Oregon broke ground recently for their new rink/rec center.
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oldman1
Impressive HSFan. Those are two positive steps after the Madison area had some challenges with MIA and Hartmeyer in the last couple years that have been resolved for now. I believe Cap Ice is adding a sheet as well.
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