coach40
Well, this would make three now that will have lost their job this year during the season. Haslett has proven to be the right choice but Cable is in Oakland, and that is well..Oakland.

Nolan just got fired....according to Mort..

will San Fran turn the corner now?
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mrmike527
Its pretty interesting that the 49ers chose to promote Singletary over Martz. It says a lot about the direction they want their franchise to go, in my opinion.
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coach40
Mr_mike527 wrote:


Its pretty interesting that the 49ers chose to promote Singletary over Martz. It says a lot about the direction they want their franchise to go, in my opinion.


I thought the same thing. Personally I think Singletary offers that hard edged attitude they have lacked.
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shefpan
The problems with the 49ers have to do with much more than the coach. Poor FA pickups and drafting Alex Smith set that team back 4 years (maybe longer)...they chose the wrong QB, lucky for us Packer fans!

If you are going to miss on a draft choice at the QB position, you better have one heckuva defense to help even things out. The 49ers don't and no amount of scheming can make up for underwhelming physical talent in the NFL.
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70runner
Shefpan wrote:


The problems with the 49ers have to do with much more than the coach. Poor FA pickups and drafting Alex Smith set that team back 4 years (maybe longer)...they chose the wrong QB, lucky for us Packer fans!

If you are going to miss on a draft choice at the QB position, you better have one heckuva defense to help even things out. The 49ers don't and no amount of scheming can make up for underwhelming physical talent in the NFL.


someone actually did a piece on this once regarding how Smith was thrown into the fire right away and how Rodgers got to sit and learn and see things on film and on the sidelines before getting thrown in there and what that can do to a person's confidence. It would be interesting to see how they would have turned out if situations were reversed. Of course there is no way you can do that, but would be interesting to see if Rodgers could have stepped in right away and fared any better than Smith.
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mrmike527
70runner wrote:


Shefpan wrote:


The problems with the 49ers have to do with much more than the coach. Poor FA pickups and drafting Alex Smith set that team back 4 years (maybe longer)...they chose the wrong QB, lucky for us Packer fans!

If you are going to miss on a draft choice at the QB position, you better have one heckuva defense to help even things out. The 49ers don't and no amount of scheming can make up for underwhelming physical talent in the NFL.


someone actually did a piece on this once regarding how Smith was thrown into the fire right away and how Rodgers got to sit and learn and see things on film and on the sidelines before getting thrown in there and what that can do to a person's confidence. It would be interesting to see how they would have turned out if situations were reversed. Of course there is no way you can do that, but would be interesting to see if Rodgers could have stepped in right away and fared any better than Smith.


The core of that problem though was that neither was truly worth a #1 pick. Even Rodgers wouldn't have been worth a #1, as he wasn't ready to come in right away and contribute. It just proves that being the best QB available does not mean you're also worth a #1.
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shefpan
70runner wrote:


Shefpan wrote:


The problems with the 49ers have to do with much more than the coach. Poor FA pickups and drafting Alex Smith set that team back 4 years (maybe longer)...they chose the wrong QB, lucky for us Packer fans!

If you are going to miss on a draft choice at the QB position, you better have one heckuva defense to help even things out. The 49ers don't and no amount of scheming can make up for underwhelming physical talent in the NFL.


someone actually did a piece on this once regarding how Smith was thrown into the fire right away and how Rodgers got to sit and learn and see things on film and on the sidelines before getting thrown in there and what that can do to a person's confidence. It would be interesting to see how they would have turned out if situations were reversed. Of course there is no way you can do that, but would be interesting to see if Rodgers could have stepped in right away and fared any better than Smith.


I remember something on that as well.

I think that even if Rodgers was in SF, he would have done better than Smith. Rodgers came from a more prototypical offense at Cal in comparison to the spread that Utah ran.

Has there ever been a QB that has done really well in a spread/run&shoot at college that has also been very successful in the NFL (for whatever reason)?
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dfnewburry
Smith was progressing under Norv Turner a couple years back .

It simply amazes me that people within the NFL cannot see that drafting a college qb who plays in one of these new spread systems is just not the thing to do unless your willing to wait 3 or 4 years on a guy .

Matt Ryan came out of a real pro style system and it shows .








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shefpan
Mr_mike527 wrote:


70runner wrote:


Shefpan wrote:


The problems with the 49ers have to do with much more than the coach. Poor FA pickups and drafting Alex Smith set that team back 4 years (maybe longer)...they chose the wrong QB, lucky for us Packer fans!

If you are going to miss on a draft choice at the QB position, you better have one heckuva defense to help even things out. The 49ers don't and no amount of scheming can make up for underwhelming physical talent in the NFL.


someone actually did a piece on this once regarding how Smith was thrown into the fire right away and how Rodgers got to sit and learn and see things on film and on the sidelines before getting thrown in there and what that can do to a person's confidence. It would be interesting to see how they would have turned out if situations were reversed. Of course there is no way you can do that, but would be interesting to see if Rodgers could have stepped in right away and fared any better than Smith.


The core of that problem though was that neither was truly worth a #1 pick. Even Rodgers wouldn't have been worth a #1, as he wasn't ready to come in right away and contribute. It just proves that being the best QB available does not mean you're also worth a #1.


I agree that neither were worth a #1 draft pick, but if you had to pick one or the other for that #1 it's easy to see in hindsight which was the best choice. Rodgers offense from college transitioned better to him understanding and playing well in the NFL. Alex Smith played a gimmick offense that does not transition well to the NFL...and he was drafted by an organization that absolutely sucks from top to bottom.
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