mickjagger

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 [b][color=darkblue]Michigan[/color][/b] 0 votes
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 [b][color=red]Wisconsin[/color][/b] 8 votes
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Saturday, 9/21/19

#10-11 Michigan at #13-14 Wisconsin

Camp Randall Stadium, Madison, WI

Kickoff:  11:00 a.m. CDT

Television:  FOX (local channels)

Point Spread:  Badgers Favored by 3 Points


On Wisconsin !
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dawgstyle
Either Michigan figures their offense out (no idea what is going on there) and they walk past the Badgers like they weren't there, or Michigan continues to shoot itself in the foot drive after drive and Wisconsin wonders why Michigan even bothered making the drive/flight to Madison.

On paper I don't view this as a close game.  But having watched the two teams play both weeks, Wisconsin looks like they should dominate from start to finish.
@2GuysFromWI

Harbaugh will have Urban Meyer retired from OSU by 2020.
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dawgstyle
Well cant say I didnt see that coming.  Ugh
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db11
That was nice. And certainly answers some questions about where Wisconsin is after the first two games didn't really tell you anything.

Of course, Northwestern comes to town next week. Never wanna see a bug-a-boo team coming off a big win.
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mpzjames
Remember when Wisconsin was picked to place third in the Big Ten West? Hmm...
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riseagainst
dawgstyle wrote:
Either Michigan figures their offense out (no idea what is going on there) and they walk past the Badgers like they weren't there, or Michigan continues to shoot itself in the foot drive after drive and Wisconsin wonders why Michigan even bothered making the drive/flight to Madison.

On paper I don't view this as a close game.  But having watched the two teams play both weeks, Wisconsin looks like they should dominate from start to finish.


I was following your analysis until you said this game shouldn’t be close “on paper”. I assume you were implying Michigan has way more talent than Wisconsin. Well if that’s the case then whoever comes up with these “paper” ratings should be ashamed of themselves, because clearly the talent level of the Michigan players is grossly overrated. Michigan looked like a sorry JV team trying to hang with the Varsity squad. If not for some fairly lousy officiating today, the game would have ended up 35-0.
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dawgstyle
Lousy officiating.  You mean like a catch that was clearly a catch not called a catch?  

You know I respect that Wisconsin has some talented players, but in starting to feel like they are a dirty program.  Why is it year after year some dirty hit ends up injuring a Michigan player?  Grant Newsome.  Brandon Peters.  Now McCaffrey.  

Also if you dont think there is substantially more talent on the Michigan roster, you probably think recruiting rankings dont matter too.  Good luck with that argument.
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mickjagger
I agree with the FOX-TV announcers ... perhaps there should be a minor targeting penalty (no player ejection from the game) and a major targeting penalty (ejection of the tackler from the game) based on subjective, perceived intent by the officials ... similar to how the roughing the kicker/punter penalty is currently assessed/enforced.
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mickjagger
9/21/19

at #13 Wisconsin (3-0 Overall, 1-0 Big 10)  35
#11 Michigan (2-1, 0-1)  14

Final Score


1st Downs ...  M-15 ... W-25
Total Yards ... M-299 ... W-487
Rushing ... M-40 ... W-359
Passing ... M-259 ... W-128
3rd Downs ... M-0/10 ...W-5/13
4th Downs ... M-3/4 ... W-3/3
Turnovers ... M-4 ... W-0
Time of Possession ... M-18:53 ... W-41:07

Game Recap, Box Score, Individual & Team Stats:
https://uwbadgers.com/news/2019/9/21/football-three-and-oh-yeah-wisconsin-dismantles-michigan-35-14.aspx
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riseagainst
dawgstyle wrote:
Lousy officiating.  You mean like a catch that was clearly a catch not called a catch?  

You know I respect that Wisconsin has some talented players, but in starting to feel like they are a dirty program.  Why is it year after year some dirty hit ends up injuring a Michigan player?  Grant Newsome.  Brandon Peters.  Now McCaffrey.  

Also if you dont think there is substantially more talent on the Michigan roster, you probably think recruiting rankings dont matter too.  Good luck with that argument.


The officials had a brutal day all around. The first “targeting” penalty was an absolute joke. The excessive reviews routinely disrupted any rhythm to the game. And the one official literally catching the football after Wisconsin snapped the ball early since Michigan had about 20 players on the field at the time was pathetic. There was no explanation on that one at all.
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db11
mickjagger wrote:
I agree with the FOX-TV announcers ... perhaps there should be a minor targeting penalty (no player ejection from the game) and a major targeting penalty (ejection of the tackler from the game) based on subjective, perceived intent by the officials ... similar to how the roughing the kicker/punter penalty is currently assessed/enforced.


The biggest issue with the targeting penalty is that there is no middle ground, and that it assigns "intent" to what often is an unintentional action.

Much like the horse-collar rule (or the 15-yard only facemask rule in the NFL), it's a penalty assigned to something that is often unavoidable with (in the case of college, even more) harsh consequences. I'm dubious that the existence of either rule has ever prevented someone from tackling/hitting someone in that manner...which is the point of it anyway. It doesn't make the game safer but it doles out harsh consequences for accidents. It's a strange rule.

The idea that someone who launches through a defenseless receiver coming across the middle, and a guy who contacts the helmet with his helmet/shoulder as the runner has changed the plane of his body from when the "action" began is 100% equal is farcical.

It's rules like this that put officials in tough spots and then we wonder why the quality of officiating has seemingly gone way down. The horse-collar rule in high school is particularly brutal. Basically any high tackle is gonna get flagged, whether it actually fits the criteria of the rule or not. Again, farcical.
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wiscopetty
Obviously a great showing yesterday on national TV. It's amazing what happens when you have a QB who can make basic throws as well as some tough ones. If I have a concern going forward, it's the secondary. Losing two safeties is not going to help there, but that's concerning when you play teams with big targets like Ohio State. 

Re: targeting – I'm actually in favor of a rule change that allows the refs to still eject the players but review the call after the game and determine then if they should miss the first half of the next game.

Michigan looks lost. Ostensibly all the "talent" in the world but no way to capitalize on it. Year 5 of the Harbaugh tenure and things are moving backwards. If the prodigal son who's had success at every stop can't turn things around, who can?
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db11
wiscopetty wrote:
Obviously a great showing yesterday on national TV. It's amazing what happens when you have a QB who can make basic throws as well as some tough ones. If I have a concern going forward, it's the secondary. Losing two safeties is not going to help there, but that's concerning when you play teams with big targets like Ohio State. 

Re: targeting – I'm actually in favor of a rule change that allows the refs to still eject the players but review the call after the game and determine then if they should miss the first half of the next game.

Michigan looks lost. Ostensibly all the "talent" in the world but no way to capitalize on it. Year 5 of the Harbaugh tenure and things are moving backwards. If the prodigal son who's had success at every stop can't turn things around, who can?


Also one that has some mobility/escapability and doesn't turn the ball over (so far). That was the big thing last year. Hitting some of these tough throws is just a bonus.
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