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roadkill1
db11 wrote:


Sounds like it was made pretty clear.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/28/ty-montgomery-told-to-take-touchback-if-it-was-option/

Bostick was cut for his blunder. This happens in NE, he'd already be out the door. Let's see what, if any, accountability remains in GB.

I read the story from Silver.
Montgomery was pissedoff cause he got removed on a drive.

Either way, Montgomery isn't listening to the coaches.
Which is what I think is going on throughout the locker room.

Rodgers evidently was pissedoff at Montgomery for not taking a knee.

Maybe we give McMuffin a pass.
There is always an excuse.

I still think he is done here.
I can not see a SB appearance in the near future with him at the helm.

JMO

RK
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kenny78
If McCarthy is indeed done in Green Bay as some of you hope, who would you like to see take his place (of the available coaches out there)?
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riseagainst
kenny78 wrote:
If McCarthy is indeed done in Green Bay as some of you hope, who would you like to see take his place (of the available coaches out there)?


I’d be satisfied with hiring anybody with a pulse over McCarthy. You’ve had one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game over the last 10 years and you have 1 super bowl appearance to show for it...which only happened because the Packers awful defense randomly starting forcing a bunch of turnovers when it mattered the most.

I mean seriously, I’ve lost count of the number of games (playoff or regular season alike) in which the Packers have either given up 35+ points or, more frustratingly, Aaron Rodgers led a scoring drive and/or left the field with the Packers on top, only for them to blow the lead without him EVER getting a chance to step on the field again! That is 100% coaching. If I’m Aaron Rodgers, I’d be out of Green Bay so fast.

Look at the Seattle NFC championship game. Aaron Rodgers walks off the field with a 12 point lead with like 5 minutes left. The next time he EVEN SETS FOOT on the field, the Packers are down 3 against one of the best defenses in the NFL. So what does he do? He drives the team down the field to kick a tying field goal...then the Packers lose the coin toss in OT and Rodgers never sees the field again. 

I’d love to see Rodgers leave and go play for the Patriots, if nothing else to prove how awful the Packers coaching/management has been during his tenure (and also to prove how overrated Brady is 🙂 ).
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dfnewburry
Game was lost before Montgomery fumbled the ball ( I cannot fault a player for trying to make a play ) .

Mike Pettine could take over with his aggresive experienced style .








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roadkill1
So you think Mc Carthy is the best option for getting back to a super bowl.

RK
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db11
kenny78 wrote:
If McCarthy is indeed done in Green Bay as some of you hope, who would you like to see take his place (of the available coaches out there)?


Honestly, don't follow the NFL much outside Green Bay, but preferably someone young, not a re-tread (or from within the organization) and defensive-minded.

For someone offensive minded, Vikings OC John DeFilippo was brought up. He was Eagles' QB coach the last few years. Could fit the mold as well.
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db11
roadkill1 wrote:

I read the story from Silver.
Montgomery was pissedoff cause he got removed on a drive.

Either way, Montgomery isn't listening to the coaches.
Which is what I think is going on throughout the locker room.

Rodgers evidently was pissedoff at Montgomery for not taking a knee.

Maybe we give McMuffin a pass.
There is always an excuse.

I still think he is done here.
I can not see a SB appearance in the near future with him at the helm.

JMO

RK


Montgomery doesn't seem like the type to do this, which really has me questioning the culture that exists up there right now. I don't think it's very good. Seems to be some finally permeating to the surface animosity between players and coaches alike.
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db11
riseagainst wrote:


I’d be satisfied with hiring anybody with a pulse over McCarthy. You’ve had one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game over the last 10 years and you have 1 super bowl appearance to show for it...which only happened because the Packers awful defense randomly starting forcing a bunch of turnovers when it mattered the most.

I mean seriously, I’ve lost count of the number of games (playoff or regular season alike) in which the Packers have either given up 35+ points or, more frustratingly, Aaron Rodgers led a scoring drive and/or left the field with the Packers on top, only for them to blow the lead without him EVER getting a chance to step on the field again! That is 100% coaching. If I’m Aaron Rodgers, I’d be out of Green Bay so fast.

Look at the Seattle NFC championship game. Aaron Rodgers walks off the field with a 12 point lead with like 5 minutes left. The next time he EVEN SETS FOOT on the field, the Packers are down 3 against one of the best defenses in the NFL. So what does he do? He drives the team down the field to kick a tying field goal...then the Packers lose the coin toss in OT and Rodgers never sees the field again. 

I’d love to see Rodgers leave and go play for the Patriots, if nothing else to prove how awful the Packers coaching/management has been during his tenure (and also to prove how overrated Brady is 🙂 ).


I agree with the gist of this post, but that's a very slanted way of looking at it. The defense was actually quite good for McCarthy's first five years. They've never recovered from losing Nick Collins (and to a lesser extent a hammer of a middle LB in Desmond Bishop).

This is the NFL, you're gonna give up yards. If you can't force turnovers, you won't win (see yesterday).
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roadkill1 wrote:
So you think Mc Carthy is the best option for getting back to a super bowl.

RK


Packers aren't getting back to one with this staff, IMO.

It's pretty telling when you look at the standings.

This was the easy part of the schedule. And two of the wins were more difficult then they should have been.

I actually had convinced myself this team was gonna be the least talented team GB's had in awhile...the weird thing is, it might be better than the last few years (this rookie class looks good)...and they still can't get it right. Telling.
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kenny78 wrote:
If McCarthy is indeed done in Green Bay as some of you hope, who would you like to see take his place (of the available coaches out there)?

Lincoln Riley.  Riley is one of the best offensive minds in football, college or pro.  He would bring a much needed reboot to the stale offense we have witnessed the last 5+ years.
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db11 wrote:


Packers aren't getting back to one with this staff, IMO.

It's pretty telling when you look at the standings.

This was the easy part of the schedule. And two of the wins were more difficult then they should have been.

I actually had convinced myself this team was gonna be the least talented team GB's had in awhile...the weird thing is, it might be better than the last few years (this rookie class looks good)...and they still can't get it right. Telling.


In Gutenkust we trust...those young DBs look like they will be very good, and Valdes-Scantling has shown plenty of flashes as well. 

As for who could take over, both the OC & DC have been HCs in the NFL. They could fill the void for the remainder of the year, and then you have a job that would seem to be appealing considering who you have at the QB position. FWIW, I'm a fan of Mike Pettine and the way he runs the defense. 
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riseagainst
db11 wrote:


I agree with the gist of this post, but that's a very slanted way of looking at it. The defense was actually quite good for McCarthy's first five years. They've never recovered from losing Nick Collins (and to a lesser extent a hammer of a middle LB in Desmond Bishop).

This is the NFL, you're gonna give up yards. If you can't force turnovers, you won't win (see yesterday).


To play devil’s advocate, the following year the Packers were 15-1 with quite arguably the worst defense in recent NFL memory, but an offense that could outscore anybody. They eventually lost to the Giants, a team that went on to win the super bowl after playing suffocating defense to stifle the Packers. I believe the Packers gave up 37 points at HOME to an Eli Manning led offense in that game, including a Hail Mary to end the first half. I didn’t think Eli could score 37 points on air, let alone an nfl defense. Nick Collins did go down early in the year, but you can’t honestly think that was the sole downfall for the defense.

IMO, the Packers let Dom Capers stick around for way too long after his defense caught lightning in a bottle with several pick 6’s in the playoffs that fueled the super bowl run (but masked the true deficiencies on defense), and the offense hasn’t done anything to help Rodgers out. The offensive line continues to be a joke, and they continue to play finesse football with no consistent running game whatsoever...which means that defenses can easily scheme knowing that the Packers can’t run the ball consistently...3rd and 1, lets line up in a shotgun for a quick out/slant route that everybody (including the defense!) knows is coming!! It’s a recipe for disaster.
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db11
riseagainst wrote:


To play devil’s advocate, the following year the Packers were 15-1 with quite arguably the worst defense in recent NFL memory, but an offense that could outscore anybody. They eventually lost to the Giants, a team that went on to win the super bowl after playing suffocating defense to stifle the Packers. I believe the Packers gave up 37 points at HOME to an Eli Manning led offense in that game, including a Hail Mary to end the first half. I didn’t think Eli could score 37 points on air, let alone an nfl defense. Nick Collins did go down early in the year, but you can’t honestly think that was the sole downfall for the defense.

IMO, the Packers let Dom Capers stick around for way too long after his defense caught lightning in a bottle with several pick 6’s in the playoffs that fueled the super bowl run (but masked the true deficiencies on defense), and the offense hasn’t done anything to help Rodgers out. The offensive line continues to be a joke, and they continue to play finesse football with no consistent running game whatsoever...which means that defenses can easily scheme knowing that the Packers can’t run the ball consistently...3rd and 1, lets line up in a shotgun for a quick out/slant route that everybody (including the defense!) knows is coming!! It’s a recipe for disaster.


At least three years. I won't agree with everything here, but it doesn't really matter anyway.

I wanna see a new attitude in Green Bay. I believe that can only happen with a defensive-minded philosophy. I think the defense is in better hands with Pettine. There's a talented crop of corners and Daniels and Clark are studs on the line. They desperately (more than anything on this team) need downhill linebackers and edge rushers. Safety is a concern as well. This offseason should be all defense plus OL. Please don't use any picks on offensive skill guys. Sign a free agent or three. Make a trade. Enough of the same ol', same ol'
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roadkill1
There seems to be a lot of confusion about who said what to whom and when.

What a freakin' mess.
This ship has lost it's direction.

Well, pitchers and catchers report February 18th!
And the Bucks seem to be playing "TEAM" basketball.

There are finally choices.


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db11
Montgomery dealt to the Ravens for a 2020 7th-round pick.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25128338/green-bay-packers-trade-ty-montgomery-baltimore-ravens

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix traded to the Redskins for a 2019 4th-round pick.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25128601/packers-trade-safety-ha-ha-clinton-dix-redskins

Well, there's some accountability anyway. The defensive re-tooling begins in earnest. Will Josh Jones see more PT now?
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