mankato64
The middle border has produced 4 of the last 5 champs in D4 football, and its 3 different temas that have all gotten in on the party.

2016 SCC
2015 Osceola
2014 Somerset
2012 Somerset

I think it would be fun to see how these teams from different years would have stacked up against one another. Which of these teams do you think was the best? IMO the somerset 12' team had the most impressive win over a loaded Big Foot squad, but they also carried a loss that year. Osceola and the 14' Somerset team went unbeaten and really weren't tested the whole year. This years SCC team had a couple losses losses but really started playing good football down the stretch. How would you guys rank these teams?
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thebillwaltontrip
Kind of off-topic but what has caused Somerset's program to drop off so quickly? A decade-plus of dominance and then these last two seasons...??? Are the numbers down, just a dry spot in the talent pool, or what?
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coach40
billybobble wrote:
mankato64 wrote:
The middle border has produced 4 of the last 5 champs in D4 football, and its 3 different temas that have all gotten in on the party.

2016 SCC
2015 Osceola
2014 Somerset
2012 Somerset

I think it would be fun to see how these teams from different years would have stacked up against one another. Which of these teams do you think was the best? IMO the somerset 12' team had the most impressive win over a loaded Big Foot squad, but they also carried a loss that year. Osceola and the 14' Somerset team went unbeaten and really weren't tested the whole year. This years SCC team had a couple losses losses but really started playing good football down the stretch. How would you guys rank these teams?

Didn't Osceola lose to Arcadia in the first game of the year?



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coach40
thebillwaltontrip wrote:
Kind of off-topic but what has caused Somerset's program to drop off so quickly? A decade-plus of dominance and then these last two seasons...??? Are the numbers down, just a dry spot in the talent pool, or what?


I do not want to speak out of turn as we have followers of the program on here, but from what I have been told it is lack of dedication by some athletes. You lost a GREAT group of seniors two years ago. It seems the leadership that they left went by the wayside.
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billybobble
mankato64 wrote:
The middle border has produced 4 of the last 5 champs in D4 football, and its 3 different temas that have all gotten in on the party.

2016 SCC
2015 Osceola
2014 Somerset
2012 Somerset

I think it would be fun to see how these teams from different years would have stacked up against one another. Which of these teams do you think was the best? IMO the somerset 12' team had the most impressive win over a loaded Big Foot squad, but they also carried a loss that year. Osceola and the 14' Somerset team went unbeaten and really weren't tested the whole year. This years SCC team had a couple losses losses but really started playing good football down the stretch. How would you guys rank these teams?

Didn't Osceola lose to Arcadia in the first game of the year?
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rushriver
The MBC has been a solid D4 football conference for quite some time. Along with the state titles I believe the conference has reached the semi final game 7 of the last 8 years. I think BW made it that far in 2009. That would be 4 different schools make great runs.
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eaglepride1
Really thought DiSalvo would be WFCA State Coach of the Year -- Running that gauntlet of a Conference and Playoff set of oppnents, wow. Nice job
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formerwiacbaseballer
eaglepride1 wrote:
Really thought DiSalvo would be WFCA State Coach of the Year -- Running that gauntlet of a Conference and Playoff set of oppnents, wow. Nice job

Had they won the conference instead of finishing in a tie for 3rd place, his odds probably would have been better....
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eaglepride1
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
eaglepride1 wrote:
Really thought DiSalvo would be WFCA State Coach of the Year -- Running that gauntlet of a Conference and Playoff set of oppnents, wow. Nice job

Had they won the conference instead of finishing in a tie for 3rd place, his odds probably would have been better....


Totally agree with ya. Jones is a great choice, second is probably Lusic from Amherst. Some good runs to the title this season.

MBC will be loaded again next year, I hear. SCC, NR, Osceola all back with full cupboards and Amery & BW were vastly improved by end of the year, plus you have to figure Somerset will be "back".
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speedmbc
thebillwaltontrip wrote:
Kind of off-topic but what has caused Somerset's program to drop off so quickly? A decade-plus of dominance and then these last two seasons...??? Are the numbers down, just a dry spot in the talent pool, or what?


From being in this conference for many years I would say a dry spot in the talent pool.  This year they were beating Ellsworth heading into the 4th.  At a point in the 3rd quarter they were loosing to SCC 6-7.  They played Osceola tough 30-20 with 8 minutes to go in the 4th.  Really the only night they probably played below their talent line is against Prescott.  I saw them play a couple of times this year.  Their coaches did a nice job and their kids played as hard as they could, they unfortunately had things happen in games that caused them to not win some games.  Heck Bloomer scored with 6 minutes left in the 4th to take the lead and they were 10-2 (Level 3) team.  They scored 50 on Superior.  

The other reason I would say dry spot in the talent pool is that they are struggling in other boys sports as well.  Years when they dominated they were very good in other sports as well.  When I have seen them play I don't think it is a lack of effort.  They always seem to play as hard as they can.  I simply think it is a lack of number of boys with athletic talent in the school.  
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speedmbc wrote:


From being in this conference for many years I would say a dry spot in the talent pool.  This year they were beating Ellsworth heading into the 4th.  At a point in the 3rd quarter they were loosing to SCC 6-7.  They played Osceola tough 30-20 with 8 minutes to go in the 4th.  Really the only night they probably played below their talent line is against Prescott.  I saw them play a couple of times this year.  Their coaches did a nice job and their kids played as hard as they could, they unfortunately had things happen in games that caused them to not win some games.  Heck Bloomer scored with 6 minutes left in the 4th to take the lead and they were 10-2 (Level 3) team.  They scored 50 on Superior.  

The other reason I would say dry spot in the talent pool is that they are struggling in other boys sports as well.  Years when they dominated they were very good in other sports as well.  When I have seen them play I don't think it is a lack of effort.  They always seem to play as hard as they can.  I simply think it is a lack of number of boys with athletic talent in the school.  

Also have to consider the improvement of other programs in the conference.

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Also have to consider the improvement of other programs in the conference.



Both have been factors.  Over the last few years, teams have “caught up” to Somerset in regards to talent and off season training.  Couple that with a drop off in talent and you have what’s happened the last few years.  Any one who thinks they’ll stay in this position is foolish.
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