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dawgstyle wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
dawgstyle wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
tweb1216 wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
[h]The rules are the rules[/h]

And I will repeat...

When is the last time you have seen this "rule" called according to the MLB rule book and a batter was not awarded 1st base?


Wasn't Brady Clark called for this with the Brewers years ago, and the ump called him 'Bush League" causing Yost to flip out?

I believe you are correct....

With that said, Brady Clark hasn't played in an MLB game in over seven years yet that is the first recollection of the "rule" being applied. That was my point.... While the "rule" is there, it's rarely called.


Also if you happen to be a basketball fan, do you not have a problem with all the constant traveling? I mean who cares since it never gets called...

I saw more traveling calls in the NBA Finals games just this year (Draymond Green) then I have seen batters not being awarded first base after being hit by a pitch in my entire lifetime....


Well seeing as how one is one of the most common calls in a game and the other is an exception to something that doesn't even happen once a game, I would sure hope so.

If you wanted a true comparison you would have to pick a time frame. Measure the number of actual travels vs the number called. then in that same amount of time, (likely seasons) you would have to identify the number of guys who should not have been award first base vs the number that did.

Then you would have a fair comparison.


I would almost think a better comparison than traveling would be flopping? It is against the rules, hence the fine that can be levied after the game is done as well as the fact that if it is deemed as a flop during the game it can be a technical. I realize that deeming is someone flopped or not to draw a charge is subjective but isn't discerning if a player attempted to get out of the way or not somewhat subjective as well.
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mickjagger
mickjagger wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
[h]The rules are the rules[/h]

And I will repeat...

When is the last time you have seen this "rule" called according to the MLB rule book and a batter was not awarded 1st base?

For the record, I'm not profusely arguing the fact that Tabata didn't get out of the way (that happens frequently), .... the travesty here is that [h]he leaned in & dropped his elbow to seemingly, intentionally get hit by the inside pitch. & got away with it[/h]. Big difference !

And, while [h]I can't provide the specific game or date, I'd say it was 2 or 3 seasons ago, in a Brewers game[/h], that I last saw that call enforced ... leaning into or intentionally getting oneself hit by a pitch. Otherwise, I have only seen or heard it called, maybe 2 or 3 times in 50+ years of following MLB ... but have come across it.

dawgstyle wrote:
http://m.mlb.com/phi/video/v20794859/must-c-curious-victorino-homers-after-a-hitbypitch/?topic_id=&c_id=phi&tcid=vpp_copy_20794859&v=3

Also it apparently happened to [h]Nyjer Morgan in 2011[/h]. So while not all that common, not nearly as rare as every 7 years.

formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
tweb1216 wrote:
[h]Wasn't Brady Clark called for this with the Brewers years ago[/h], and the ump called him 'Bush League" causing Yost to flip out?

I believe you are correct....

With that said, Brady Clark hasn't played in an MLB game in over seven years yet that is the first recollection of the "rule" being applied. That was my point.... [h]While the "rule" is there, it's rarely called[/h].

Nyger Morgan was the incident that I recalled but couldn't remember who or when. I didn't recall the Brady Clark incident until TWeb mentioned it. I remember it now.

FWIW, WIAC, IMO, the primary reason it's rarely called is because it rarely happens. However, the rule is there ... it deserves to be called when it applies.
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