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Division Three
Waupaca vs Kewaskum at Ripon -Saturday November 15 - 1[color="#0000ff"] [color="#ff0000"]PM - Ingalls Field[/color][/font]

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db11
Thomas7 wrote:


hilbert is 85 miles from SP. shell lake is 195. I'm wondering how that is neutral. I know the distances can't be equal, but that's not even close.


Uh, because it's not a home game for either team.

Shell Lake can't help that it's located way up in the boonies and neither can the WIAA...

BTW, how far is it to Madison? I don't see teams complaining about that travel time.
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pistolpetefan23 wrote:


For those complaining of "unfair" travel times, how many stadiums big enough, close enough, and available enough are there in the northwest part of the state? If you notice most of the Level 4 sites are either D1 or D2 high school fields or college fields. UW-Stout and UW-River Falls have home games Saturday, so that takes them out. Not sure the availability on UW-Eau Claire, the football team plays at Stout though. There's no D1 high school football teams up there until you get to Superior. Unfortunately there's just not many places big enough to host a Level 4 game, especially in that part of the state.

First of all, a neutral site between Hilbert and Shell Lake would not be in the NW part of the state. The game is at UW-SP, and you mentioned Stout and River Falls are takin out because of Saturday home games. Stevens Point also has a home game Saturday. Even if Stout and RF were available, those would not be neutral for this game anyhow. DC Everest or Wausau West would have been much closer. I know both of them our hosting other games, but either those games could be played elsewhere (such as UW-SP), or they could host two games. The travel mileage for the Shell Lake-Hilbert game would then be 160/120 compared to 195/85. And I am not necessarily complaining, just wondering why the difference in time is so great.
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Thomas7 wrote:


pistolpetefan23 wrote:


For those complaining of "unfair" travel times, how many stadiums big enough, close enough, and available enough are there in the northwest part of the state?? If you notice most of the Level 4 sites are either D1 or D2 high school fields or college fields.? UW-Stout and UW-River Falls have home games Saturday, so that takes them out.? Not sure the availability on UW-Eau Claire, the football team plays at Stout though.? There's no D1 high school football teams up there until you get to Superior.? Unfortunately there's just not many places big enough to host a Level 4 game, especially in that part of the state.

First of all, a neutral site between Hilbert and Shell Lake would not be in the NW part of the state.? The game is at UW-SP, and you mentioned Stout and River Falls are takin out because of Saturday home games.? Stevens Point also has a home game Saturday.? Even if Stout and RF were available, those would not be neutral for this game anyhow.? DC Everest or Wausau West would have been much closer.? I know both of them our hosting other games,? but either those games could be played elsewhere (such as UW-SP), or they could host two games.? The travel mileage for the Shell Lake-Hilbert game would then be 160/120 compared to 195/85.? And I am not necessarily complaining, just wondering why the difference in time is so great.



the shell lake hilbert game wouldnt have been at dc everest or wausau west because you also have to take into effect how many fans these teams are going to bring to these games. a d1 or d2 or even d3 school is going to bring more fans to the game than a d7 school simply based on size alone. the biggest stadiums available are going to be used for the games drawing the most fans. while its not a perfectly good reason, things like this need to be taken into consideration to make sure everyone that wants to be at these games is able to be there and have a place to sit.
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rhino62 wrote:


Thomas7 wrote:


pistolpetefan23 wrote:


For those complaining of "unfair" travel times, how many stadiums big enough, close enough, and available enough are there in the northwest part of the state? If you notice most of the Level 4 sites are either D1 or D2 high school fields or college fields. UW-Stout and UW-River Falls have home games Saturday, so that takes them out. Not sure the availability on UW-Eau Claire, the football team plays at Stout though. There's no D1 high school football teams up there until you get to Superior. Unfortunately there's just not many places big enough to host a Level 4 game, especially in that part of the state.

First of all, a neutral site between Hilbert and Shell Lake would not be in the NW part of the state. The game is at UW-SP, and you mentioned Stout and River Falls are takin out because of Saturday home games. Stevens Point also has a home game Saturday. Even if Stout and RF were available, those would not be neutral for this game anyhow. DC Everest or Wausau West would have been much closer. I know both of them our hosting other games, but either those games could be played elsewhere (such as UW-SP), or they could host two games. The travel mileage for the Shell Lake-Hilbert game would then be 160/120 compared to 195/85. And I am not necessarily complaining, just wondering why the difference in time is so great.



the shell lake hilbert game wouldnt have been at dc everest or wausau west because you also have to take into effect how many fans these teams are going to bring to these games. a d1 or d2 or even d3 school is going to bring more fans to the game than a d7 school simply based on size alone. the biggest stadiums available are going to be used for the games drawing the most fans. while its not a perfectly good reason, things like this need to be taken into consideration to make sure everyone that wants to be at these games is able to be there and have a place to sit.


Gilman/Hilbert in Level 4 in 2006 was played at....D.C. Everest.
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