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blade12
yzerman1 wrote:
longball12 wrote:
blade12 wrote:
wiscopetty wrote:
If the Brewers are considering dealing Lucroy, they could take a flyer on Jarrod Saltalamacchia, who was just released by the Marlins. He's only had 29 ABs this year, so maybe he can turn it around. Maldonado is really struggling.


Salty was pretty bad last year too.

How long is d'Arnaud out??? Could Luc be a fit in NY if d'Arnaud came back in return?

They are more focused on middle infield help I believe. The Brewers would want a TON for Lucroy, and if the Mets are in on Tulo, then I don't think they will be in on a Lucroy.


Attanasio had this to say in the paper on the state of the Brewers:

Over 11 years, I?ve made some pretty tough decisions and I?m ready to make them again,? said Attanasio. ?Whether it?s remodel, retool, rebuild, whatever it takes to bring winning baseball to Milwaukee is what I?m going to do. The organization always comes first to me and for everybody.?

I believe what he is saying I will do whatever takes to make sure the stadium stays full. So far they are averaging 31,000 a game which is outstanding. If they play .500 baseball the rest of the year the will end up with 75 wins. In their last 100 games the Brewers are 38-62 which makes their attendance even more amazing.

It makes no sense for the Mets to trade for Lucroy. In my opinion the Brewers should try and move Lucroy. Over the next three years he only makes 12.25 million. He probably has more trade value than almost anyone in baseball given his contract status. They should also trade Carlos Gomez since they have no chance of resigning him since Scott Boras is his agent. Those two would bring back just an incredible return however it will be a few years down the road. I don't think they will move either player and this team will be a last place team starting in 2017.


I don't disagree with trading Lucroy or Gomez. I'm just not sure I want DM to be the guy deciding who they get in return.

I think the Mets are a fit. They haven't been in the playoffs in about 10 years. This is their year to go for it.

Depends on how long d'Arnaud could be out or slowed by his hand injury but I could dangle Lucroy and one of either Gennett or Sardinas for Syndegaard and d'Arnaud.

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wiscopetty
yzerman1 wrote:
Attanasio had this to say in the paper on the state of the Brewers:

Over 11 years, I?ve made some pretty tough decisions and I?m ready to make them again,? said Attanasio. ?Whether it?s remodel, retool, rebuild, whatever it takes to bring winning baseball to Milwaukee is what I?m going to do. The organization always comes first to me and for everybody.?

I believe what he is saying I will do whatever takes to make sure the stadium stays full. So far they are averaging 31,000 a game which is outstanding. If they play .500 baseball the rest of the year the will end up with 75 wins. In their last 100 games the Brewers are 38-62 which makes their attendance even more amazing.

It makes no sense for the Mets to trade for Lucroy. In my opinion the Brewers should try and move Lucroy. Over the next three years he only makes 12.25 million. He probably has more trade value than almost anyone in baseball given his contract status. They should also trade Carlos Gomez since they have no chance of resigning him since Scott Boras is his agent. Those two would bring back just an incredible return however it will be a few years down the road. I don't think they will move either player and this team will be a last place team starting in 2017.

I agree with your entire post.

While Mark A. has at least given lip service to a full rebuild, Melvin doesn't sound as enthusiastic. He was on Madison radio the other day and basically said the team's revenue is centered around attendance, unlike other teams who rely on television deals. What I'm worried about is a Herb Kohl-ing of this team. That is, hover around .500 each year with enough household names to bring people to the ballpark without ever fully committing to putting a contender on the field.

IMO both Gomez and Lucroy should be traded. Lucroy would bring back a HUGE package for the reasons you listed: he's cheap, extremely talented, marketable, and under team control for several more years. Gomez should get a nice return as well.
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yzerman1
The Brewers get 20 million a year from their television deal with Fox Sports. That deal goes through 2019. The opponent tonight, the Dodgers, get 320 million a year from their television deal. In a different thread, Longball, chronicled their horrible drafting over the past few years. That is where they need to shine because they are never going to be able to out spend certain teams. They need to get more young talent and trading Gomez and Lucroy could be the start of that process. It has worked for Washington and it appears like it is starting to work for Houston and the Cubs as well now.
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I am all for trading Lucroy and Gomez. They will yield a hell of a lot more than Ramirez, Lohse, Garza, Broxton, Parra, and K-Rod combined.
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longball12
I shut it off when they brought Cotts in and there was no one else in the bullpen warming up. I have seen him against right handers. Got the text alert at the end of the game showing 8-2, surfed back, and discovered I was still correct in my Cotts assumption.
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yzerman1
Getaway lineups for today. First time all year that the roof has been open.

Los Angeles Dodgers
1. Pederson, CF
2. Grandal, C
3. Kendrick, 2B
4. Gonzalez, 1B
5. Guerrero, LF
6. Ethier, RF
7. Uribe, 3B
8. Hernandez, SS
9. Frias, P

Milwaukee Brewers
1. Segura, SS
2. Gennett, 2B
3. Braun, RF
4. Lind, 1B
5. Ramirez, 3B
6. Parra, CF
7. Davis, LF
8. Centeno, C
9. Fiers, P

Fangraphs gives the Brewers a 1.5% chance to make the playoffs and only projects them to win 72 games this season. Only the Phillies at 64 wins and the Rangers at 71 are projected to be worse than the Brewers.
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longball12
Ya but what do they know.
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roadkill1
I like CC !

Don't know what will happen, but I like his style!

RK
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The Brewers pitching staff leads all of baseball in home runs given up with 40 bombs after the home run by Alex Guerrero. Lohse has given up 9, and Garza, Fiers, and Peralta have each given up 6. The Dodgers lead all of baseball with 45 home runs on the year.
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blade12
roadkill1 wrote:
I like CC !

Don't know what will happen, but I like his style!

RK


Just from watching the team attitude and demeanor seems to have picked up under CC.
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mickjagger
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
Garza pitches well enough to win but Greinke handcuffs the Brewers on 2 hits over 7+ innings as the LAD wins 8-2.

Box Score:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2015_05_05_lanmlb_milmlb_1&mode=box

I guess if you admire giving up a 3 run jack, Garza did just fine.
The Great Garza is again on pace to win 8-9 games this year.
What a tremendous signing pickup the Brewer got! And they only have to pay him $50 million over 4 years.
What a bargain!
You gotta love these career 'underachievers'.
How do so many find their way to Milwaukee?
The only implication I was attempting to portray was that on a night when Garza gives up only 3 runs (the HR) allows 4 hits & strikes out 5 over 6 innings, the Brewers' offense can only muster 3 hits over 9 innings. Allowing 3 runs over 6 innings is a quality start by MLB definition. However, expecting the Brewers to hit well & pitch well on the same night is asking a lot these days.

Other than that, trust me, I'm well aware of Garza's weaknesses & shortcomings in the grand scheme of things.
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mickjagger
How about that Brewers' bullpen? [] [x(] [&o]
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wlhssuperjake08
mickjagger wrote:
How about that Brewers' bullpen? [] [x(] [&o]


Jeremy Jeffress is leading the league with 16 relief appearances. As I said on Twitter, his arm is going to wear out by July from potential overuse.
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