rimrattler1
Went to watch NFDL play at Laconia Tuesday night and saw a very good team in Laconia. However I do think that again this year they are overrated. Again they are very good with Semenas leading them but just like last year I believe this team is overrated. I believe they are currently ranked 4th in the AP. They are a in the top 15 but not 4th. I do not see them beating Brillion or Roncalli in their sectional. Any thoughts on this.
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hickorycornhusker
rimrattler1 wrote:


Went to watch NFDL play at Laconia Tuesday night and saw a very good team in Laconia. However I do think that again this year they are overrated. Again they are very good with Semenas leading them but just like last year I believe this team is overrated. I believe they are currently ranked 4th in the AP. They are a in the top 15 but not 4th. I do not see them beating Brillion or Roncalli in their sectional. Any thoughts on this.


Don't worry about it. Rankings aren't worth the paper they're printed on. If they are not what they appear they will be exposed come March.
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pinetar
its high school sports...rankings mean nothing...but if you want to talk about rankings and think laconia would be in the top 15...if thats the case...when you get teams in the top 20 in their division...those teams can beat each other on any given night so I wouldn't really say they are overrated...until someone knocks them down...they deserve to be where they are at
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BareFoot Guide_old
With only 1 loss on the season they deserve to be there for now. They almost had a hiccup against
WLA but fought back for that win. Semenas makes everyone on that team better unlike someother
talents in the area that are averaging 25+ per game(Ceroni). He takes 30-40 shots per game albeit deadly from behind the arc.

I believe Laconia is ahead of KML by 1/2 game now but on the 20th probably by 1 game. If Laconia
wins they win title outright. If KML wins(without any other losses) they share the title. Could be a
great game. Time will tell.
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DR_center51_old
rimrattler1 wrote:


Went to watch NFDL play at Laconia Tuesday night and saw a very good team in Laconia. However I do think that again this year they are overrated. Again they are very good with Semenas leading them but just like last year I believe this team is overrated. I believe they are currently ranked 4th in the AP. They are a in the top 15 but not 4th. I do not see them beating Brillion or Roncalli in their sectional. Any thoughts on this.


Are you implying that they were overated last year? Because I don't know how a 20-0 regular season makes you overated. Laconia ran into a buzzsaw in a one loss Roncali team who played a great game, no shame in that loss.

Now towards this year, rankings mean very little, but until someone goes out and beats them I wouldn't say that they are overated, we're over halfway through the year so by now teams have pretty good resumes as to what they can do. Bad teams don't start the year 13-1, even in a down flyway conference this year that is a solid record. Only time will tell if they are overated but for now it would be wise to hold off judgement. A loss in sectionals this year wouldn't make this team overated in my opinion either. 16 teams make it to sectionals, at the level everyone is good and anything can happen on a given night. Just my thoughts.
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uwbaseball29_old
spartans_2009 wrote:


They only beat confrence "favorite" by 18. No big deal.


One could surmise that the Spartans were up for that game, on their home court, and they did win by 18, but what's the difference if it was 10, or 5. As a comparison, were the Lakers really that much worse than the Celtics in game 6 of the finals? The score is relevant, but there are alot of factors that go into the size of the win. I doubt they are 18 points better than KML every night. They were definitely better that night.

But then why the close games against Mayville and WLA? It's possible they can flip the switch into a higher gear when the competition is perceived better, but that catches up with teams. One night they may not be able to pull it off.

I would be surprised if anyone thinks KML is the "conference favorite", now or before. Laconia has won the last two titles and 25+ games in a row in the Flyway, doesn't sound like an underdog to me. Are there some confidence issues in Rosendale?

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db1112
This is a ridiculous thread. Laconia is far and away the best boys program in the conference.
"The runner goes, Hall juices it into left center field.....THE BREWERS WIN...."

"And there's a drive into left field, this is hit well, and IT'S GONE....RYAN BRAUN...A 2-RUN HOME RUN, THE BREWERS TAKE THE LEAD..."
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rimrattler1
Agreed, Laconia is the best team in the conference. They are a good team. However it is my opinion that they are not the 3rd or 4th best team in division 3 as they are currently ranked by the AP. Again I will say they are overrated just like last year when they were ranked number 1 much of the year and then got smoked by Roncalli in the first game of the sectionals.
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DR_center51_old
rimrattler1 wrote:


Agreed, Laconia is the best team in the conference. They are a good team. However it is my opinion that they are not the 3rd or 4th best team in division 3 as they are currently ranked by the AP. Again I will say they are overrated just like last year when they were ranked number 1 much of the year and then got smoked by Roncalli in the first game of the sectionals.


Honestly, they weren't overated last year. They lost to a one loss Roncali team in manitowoc, if you care so much about rankings realize Roncali was ranked third. Roncali shot over 70% from 3 and over 90% from the free throw line. There aren't many college teams that pull that off.

Now for this year, hold judgement till someone in D3 actually goes out and beats them. You care so much about rankings, so if 5 ranked(coaches poll) Laconia were to lose to 7th ranked Brillion in Sectionals would that make them overated this year. I say no, when two good teams play someone has to lose, that doesn't make them overated. Plus, these are 16-18 year olds, they have off nights, that doesn't mean they are overated.
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rimrattler1
Wow Oldtimeer! I apologize if this came across as a dis to Laconia. Great school, great people that I have met from there. Oldtimeer, you are very wise. Guess I was expecting more that's all. If they can get past Brillion or Roncalli they should make it to state. Hope there are no mitigating circumstances this year.
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db1112
Right now Laconia is the best program. If KML wants to take it over, they need to have sustained success over a few years like Laconia has and make some deep runs in the playoffs.

I see KML having a hard time getting out of their regional, not because they are a bad team, but they are in a tough regional with some really good teams.

JV records don't mean much, their aren't many good JV teams in the conference because most of the teams are pretty young and have good sophomores up on varsity.



"The runner goes, Hall juices it into left center field.....THE BREWERS WIN...."

"And there's a drive into left field, this is hit well, and IT'S GONE....RYAN BRAUN...A 2-RUN HOME RUN, THE BREWERS TAKE THE LEAD..."
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BareFoot Guide_old
db_11 wrote:


Right now Laconia is the best program. If KML wants to take it over, they need to have sustained success over a few years like Laconia has and make some deep runs in the playoffs.

I see KML having a hard time getting out of their regional, not because they are a bad team, but they are in a tough regional with some really good teams.

JV records don't mean much, their aren't many good JV teams in the conference because most of the teams are pretty young and have good sophomores up on varsity.


Where have you been DB? The JV programs for both Laconia and KML are very good. Very talented players on both squads and when you add them to the sophmores on Varsity already next year will turn out like this year. The contest between these 2 JV teams on Friday was an awesome game also. I believe both teams combined for 4 or 5 losses all year. The rest of the conference needs to step it up. It is not fun winning by 30-40 against the Horicons, Lomiras, etc...
2nd string players get more PT than the starters.

Very difficult to compare a D3 Laconia in the playoffs vs. KML in D2. Put KML in D3 and they would
go as far or farther than Laconia. Put Laconia in the bracket KML is in in D2 and they would have
the same difficulties - maybe more since they do not have the bulk to battle the horses from
Pewaukee or NBE.

KML definately drew the short straw. Laconia has a cake walk until it meets up with Roncolli again.

Good Luck to all teams from the Flyway. Maybe we can all meet up at Ron Dayne's resturant in Madison !

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db1112
BareFoot, i didnt mean to make it sound like KML and Laconia's JV's arent very good. WLA has a very good JV as well.

All I meant to say is its hard for the Horicon, Lomira, NFDL's, Mayville's to keep up with those other schools right now. They just don't have the number of kids, and if anyone is ready to play varsity ball they are up on the varsity. Where as KML and Laconia may have kids that aren't on the varsity because their really isn't a place for them to play right now.
"The runner goes, Hall juices it into left center field.....THE BREWERS WIN...."

"And there's a drive into left field, this is hit well, and IT'S GONE....RYAN BRAUN...A 2-RUN HOME RUN, THE BREWERS TAKE THE LEAD..."
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uwbaseball29_old
db_11 wrote:


This is a ridiculous thread. Laconia is far and away the best boys program in the conference.


They have been the best the past few years, but with KML with 1 conference loss at both the varsity and JV level, I don't think it is accurate to say they are far and away the best, this should continue to be a heated rivalry for the next few years.
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db1112
Who's trying to make them sound like an ugly step-sister? I don't think being recognized as the 2nd best program in the conference is disrespectful.

They aren't the program Laconia is right now, but they are right behind them in 2nd.
"The runner goes, Hall juices it into left center field.....THE BREWERS WIN...."

"And there's a drive into left field, this is hit well, and IT'S GONE....RYAN BRAUN...A 2-RUN HOME RUN, THE BREWERS TAKE THE LEAD..."
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