johnwall1
Kobe King is a terrific player. He is now ranked on this site as the top junior in the state. Clearly this is based on his performance on the AAU circuit. His Central team finished tied with Aquinas for 3rd in the MVC last season, losing the over achieving Holmen squad in both meetings and to Onalaska 2 of 3 times. If Kobe is as good as his reputation, it seems to me Central should coast through the MVC next year. Who can stop him/them?

Thoughts?
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innercityivan
johnwall1 wrote:
Kobe King is a terrific player. He is now ranked on this site as the top junior in the state. Clearly this is based on his performance on the AAU circuit. His Central team finished tied with Aquinas for 3rd in the MVC last season, losing the over achieving Holmen squad in both meetings and to Onalaska 2 of 3 times. If Kobe is as good as his reputation, it seems to me Central should coast through the MVC next year. Who can stop him/them?

Thoughts?


He's the best in the state, no one will stop him.... [] That's what you want to hear, right?

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safetysqueezepleezzee11
innercityivan wrote:
johnwall1 wrote:
Kobe King is a terrific player. He is now ranked on this site as the top junior in the state. Clearly this is based on his performance on the AAU circuit. His Central team finished tied with Aquinas for 3rd in the MVC last season, losing the over achieving Holmen squad in both meetings and to Onalaska 2 of 3 times. If Kobe is as good as his reputation, it seems to me Central should coast through the MVC next year. Who can stop him/them?

Thoughts?


He's the best in the state, no one will stop him.... [] That's what you want to hear, right?



King and his Central team will be so good the team is going to only play WIAC teams, instead of high school
teams this coming basketball season.
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banks93
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
innercityivan wrote:
johnwall1 wrote:
Kobe King is a terrific player. He is now ranked on this site as the top junior in the state. Clearly this is based on his performance on the AAU circuit. His Central team finished tied with Aquinas for 3rd in the MVC last season, losing the over achieving Holmen squad in both meetings and to Onalaska 2 of 3 times. If Kobe is as good as his reputation, it seems to me Central should coast through the MVC next year. Who can stop him/them?

Thoughts?


He's the best in the state, no one will stop him.... [] That's what you want to hear, right?



King and his Central team will be so good the team is going to only play WIAC teams, instead of high school
teams this coming basketball season.


I heard he was going to repeat his sophomore year so he could play against Jordan McCabe.
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johnwall1
thecrackerjack wrote:
Actually, King is a high major player who will have a Badgers offer in the near future, possibly this month. Central is a realistic threat to get to, and possibly win state in D2 next year as well.


First of all, thanks to you all for the sarcasm, gave me a good laugh. Second, and not so laughable, King is a rising junior and is 6 months YOUNGER than McCabe, a rising sophomore. That's pretty sad actually.

Anyway, LCC should not lose in the MVC, yet for some reason, for the last 2 years, they have underachieved much of the time. I expect that should end this year.
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blade12
banks93 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
innercityivan wrote:
johnwall1 wrote:
Kobe King is a terrific player. He is now ranked on this site as the top junior in the state. Clearly this is based on his performance on the AAU circuit. His Central team finished tied with Aquinas for 3rd in the MVC last season, losing the over achieving Holmen squad in both meetings and to Onalaska 2 of 3 times. If Kobe is as good as his reputation, it seems to me Central should coast through the MVC next year. Who can stop him/them?

Thoughts?


He's the best in the state, no one will stop him.... [] That's what you want to hear, right?



King and his Central team will be so good the team is going to only play WIAC teams, instead of high school
teams this coming basketball season.


I heard he was going to repeat his sophomore year so he could play against Jordan McCabe.


Sorry, I self deleted what I was going to say.
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thecrackerjack
Actually, King is a high major player who will have a Badgers offer in the near future, possibly this month. Central is a realistic threat to get to, and possibly win state in D2 next year as well.
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traviswilson
oldballcoach1 wrote:
To start, the only ones that the rankings of players matters to are the players, their parents, and the people that profit from the rankings. Lets be honest - they really mean nothing. Most kids in this state are never seen by those that do any type of rankings and as a result, never make any list. If you happen to be at an AAU tourney and one of those that does the rankings is there, then you get some recognition. If you look at the baseball award watch list this spring, it is generated by returning all - conference players. There were some major ommisions from the list this spring. And, lets just say that I have yet to see any of these experts at a game in this area - for any sport - since Matt and Bronson were playing.

Interesting take. Thousands of WSN Extra subscribers that read rankings would tend to disagree with you. And I can guarantee you that Mark has seen King play at least 4-6 times in the last 12 months, probably more. And I guarantee you that Mark has seen more kids from Wisconsin play than anyone in the state.
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oldballcoach1
To start, the only ones that the rankings of players matters to are the players, their parents, and the people that profit from the rankings. Lets be honest - they really mean nothing. Most kids in this state are never seen by those that do any type of rankings and as a result, never make any list. If you happen to be at an AAU tourney and one of those that does the rankings is there, then you get some recognition. If you look at the baseball award watch list this spring, it is generated by returning all - conference players. There were some major ommisions from the list this spring. And, lets just say that I have yet to see any of these experts at a game in this area - for any sport - since Matt and Bronson were playing.

And then to KK. As I stated above, who knows if he is the #1 ranked player for 2017 - but lets just say he is one of the top players for 2017. I feel pretty good about saying this as it isn't a coincidence that several Division 1 schools have offered him a full scholarship and several more will this summer, including the national runner up Badgers. I put stock into that rather than some ranking.

I will say that KK has a lot of potential and will only get better - along with getting bigger and stronger. He - along with his teammates have got to learn to defend and play with more physicality. If they do that, other than Ona, no one will challenge them in the MVC.

And, I will also say that people should be rooting for this kid. He is really a nice young man and you would never know he is getting the attention he is. He is a humble kid - yes a kid yet.
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banks93
traviswilson wrote:
oldballcoach1 wrote:
To start, the only ones that the rankings of players matters to are the players, their parents, and the people that profit from the rankings. Lets be honest - they really mean nothing. Most kids in this state are never seen by those that do any type of rankings and as a result, never make any list. If you happen to be at an AAU tourney and one of those that does the rankings is there, then you get some recognition. If you look at the baseball award watch list this spring, it is generated by returning all - conference players. There were some major ommisions from the list this spring. And, lets just say that I have yet to see any of these experts at a game in this area - for any sport - since Matt and Bronson were playing.

Interesting take. Thousands of WSN Extra subscribers that read rankings would tend to disagree with you. And I can guarantee you that Mark has seen King play at least 4-6 times in the last 12 months, probably more. And I guarantee you that Mark has seen more kids from Wisconsin play than anyone in the state.


I like the rankings that WSN puts out and appreciate the hard work it takes to put that list together. I agree a guy can't be everywhere but I think Mark does a good job.

Yes, I would agree the baseball coverage is not the same as Football and Basketball.

I have been to a lot of youth basketball tournaments the past 6 years from October-August so I would say there may be some coaches and parents who challenge your claim of seeing the most kids in WI than anyone.

I am sure Mark probably wins for attending the most high school games.

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traviswilson
banks93 wrote:
traviswilson wrote:
oldballcoach1 wrote:
To start, the only ones that the rankings of players matters to are the players, their parents, and the people that profit from the rankings. Lets be honest - they really mean nothing. Most kids in this state are never seen by those that do any type of rankings and as a result, never make any list. If you happen to be at an AAU tourney and one of those that does the rankings is there, then you get some recognition. If you look at the baseball award watch list this spring, it is generated by returning all - conference players. There were some major ommisions from the list this spring. And, lets just say that I have yet to see any of these experts at a game in this area - for any sport - since Matt and Bronson were playing.

Interesting take. Thousands of WSN Extra subscribers that read rankings would tend to disagree with you. And I can guarantee you that Mark has seen King play at least 4-6 times in the last 12 months, probably more. And I guarantee you that Mark has seen more kids from Wisconsin play than anyone in the state.


I like the rankings that WSN puts out and appreciate the hard work it takes to put that list together. I agree a guy can't be everywhere but I think Mark does a good job.

Yes, I would agree the baseball coverage is not the same as Football and Basketball.

I have been to a lot of youth basketball tournaments the past 6 years from October-August so I would say there may be some coaches and parents who challenge your claim of seeing the most kids in WI than anyone.

I am sure Mark probably wins for attending the most high school games.


We don't cover youth basketball, and never will. 4th-8th graders (or younger) have no business being "ranked" either locally or nationally to be honest.
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banks93
traviswilson wrote:
banks93 wrote:
traviswilson wrote:
oldballcoach1 wrote:
To start, the only ones that the rankings of players matters to are the players, their parents, and the people that profit from the rankings. Lets be honest - they really mean nothing. Most kids in this state are never seen by those that do any type of rankings and as a result, never make any list. If you happen to be at an AAU tourney and one of those that does the rankings is there, then you get some recognition. If you look at the baseball award watch list this spring, it is generated by returning all - conference players. There were some major ommisions from the list this spring. And, lets just say that I have yet to see any of these experts at a game in this area - for any sport - since Matt and Bronson were playing.

Interesting take. Thousands of WSN Extra subscribers that read rankings would tend to disagree with you. And I can guarantee you that Mark has seen King play at least 4-6 times in the last 12 months, probably more. And I guarantee you that Mark has seen more kids from Wisconsin play than anyone in the state.


I like the rankings that WSN puts out and appreciate the hard work it takes to put that list together. I agree a guy can't be everywhere but I think Mark does a good job.

Yes, I would agree the baseball coverage is not the same as Football and Basketball.

I have been to a lot of youth basketball tournaments the past 6 years from October-August so I would say there may be some coaches and parents who challenge your claim of seeing the most kids in WI than anyone.

I am sure Mark probably wins for attending the most high school games.


We don't cover youth basketball, and never will. 4th-8th graders (or younger) have no business being "ranked" either locally or nationally to be honest.


I didn't say you should cover youth basketball. I was just pointing out your statement was incorrect about seeing the most kids. It was a generalization based off of your opinion.
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oldballcoach1
traviswilson wrote:
oldballcoach1 wrote:
To start, the only ones that the rankings of players matters to are the players, their parents, and the people that profit from the rankings. Lets be honest - they really mean nothing. Most kids in this state are never seen by those that do any type of rankings and as a result, never make any list. If you happen to be at an AAU tourney and one of those that does the rankings is there, then you get some recognition. If you look at the baseball award watch list this spring, it is generated by returning all - conference players. There were some major ommisions from the list this spring. And, lets just say that I have yet to see any of these experts at a game in this area - for any sport - since Matt and Bronson were playing.

Interesting take. Thousands of WSN Extra subscribers that read rankings would tend to disagree with you. And I can guarantee you that Mark has seen King play at least 4-6 times in the last 12 months, probably more. And I guarantee you that Mark has seen more kids from Wisconsin play than anyone in the state.




Of course you would say that as you have a stake in the site. I can tell you Mark has never been to see this kid play an in season game in two years. A few AAU games, but never a high school game. Two different things and two different ways college coaches look at talent.

Rankings are subjective to the eye of the beholder. It really does serve no purpose. I have watched hundreds of kids play in the past year so apparently that makes me some type of expert. I don't think so. To rank 14 to 17 year old kids on a short snapshot of maybe a game is meaningless in the big picture of things. How many schools participate in athletics in Wisconsin? 400+. To say that one kid is the top player of an entire class is nonsense. Just as saying another is the ranked #40.

Lets just say that KK is one of the top kids in the state for his class and leave it at that. Whether he is #1 - #5 - #10 - it doesn't matter.
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and1kell
Kobe King has had the best summer on the AAU circuit in the 2017 class. His AAU team plays like a traditional high school team and they have reached tremendous heights. Fortunately for Kobe, he has played well at the biggest stages and turned into a phenomenal "Go-to" guy. AAU is a different brand of basketball, which suits Kobe's game, as well as many top athletes. His HS success is completely different than AAU. All depends who you play with and how you are coached. Some coaches slow it down, some push.... Some upperclassman want the shots etc. All I know is this, watching Kobe play this summer has been a blessing, and he will make a college VERY happy.

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traviswilson
oldballcoach1 wrote:
traviswilson wrote:
oldballcoach1 wrote:
To start, the only ones that the rankings of players matters to are the players, their parents, and the people that profit from the rankings. Lets be honest - they really mean nothing. Most kids in this state are never seen by those that do any type of rankings and as a result, never make any list. If you happen to be at an AAU tourney and one of those that does the rankings is there, then you get some recognition. If you look at the baseball award watch list this spring, it is generated by returning all - conference players. There were some major ommisions from the list this spring. And, lets just say that I have yet to see any of these experts at a game in this area - for any sport - since Matt and Bronson were playing.

Interesting take. Thousands of WSN Extra subscribers that read rankings would tend to disagree with you. And I can guarantee you that Mark has seen King play at least 4-6 times in the last 12 months, probably more. And I guarantee you that Mark has seen more kids from Wisconsin play than anyone in the state.




Of course you would say that as you have a stake in the site. I can tell you Mark has never been to see this kid play an in season game in two years. A few AAU games, but never a high school game. Two different things and two different ways college coaches look at talent.

Rankings are subjective to the eye of the beholder. It really does serve no purpose. I have watched hundreds of kids play in the past year so apparently that makes me some type of expert. I don't think so. To rank 14 to 17 year old kids on a short snapshot of maybe a game is meaningless in the big picture of things. How many schools participate in athletics in Wisconsin? 400+. To say that one kid is the top player of an entire class is nonsense. Just as saying another is the ranked #40.

Apparently hundreds of college coaches that subscribe to our site, follow us on Twitter, and interact with us frequently would disagree with you.
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