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diener34
Schlitzdog wrote:


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Both won't be back because that is what Thompson does.... They are not "his guys" and both will demand big dollars..... He did it with Favre, KGB and Tauscher (except they got desperate and had to have Tausch back).... Plus from articles that I have read they are very high on Patrick Lee and now the Jones kid at LB.....


I'm all for TT bashing, but....

KGB was released because he sucked, his contract was in place and he did not need to be resigned.

Tauscher was resigned, but not until he was healthy. Why would he have brought him back 3-4 months before he could play?

Favre was traded because he was an absolute bltch. I know you don't agree with that statement, but that is the truth. If Favre actually wanted to be a part of the 2008 Packer team he would have been. Instead, he wanted to be a part of the 2008 VIKING team and that drove his "unretirement".


Can I get some of what your on? Bit__!!! I could give you a few FACTS.


What facts would those be?
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paladium
My thoughts:

I think Kampman's injury will be addition by subtraction. He was a Pro Bowl DE, but as a LB he had major flaws. I think that Jones will be a better true 3-4 OLB than Kampman could ever be.

As for Harris, this hurts. Whatever his faults, Harris was (until his injury) one of the better shut-down corners in the league. Hopefully Williams can pick up the slack, as well as the rest of the back-ups.

Any thoughts on trying to re-sign Harris next year (based on his surgery) in a more nickel/dime role, instead of an every down DB? Could give us a strong 5th DB off the bench if he would be willing.
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mrmike527
Paladium wrote:


My thoughts:

I think Kampman's injury will be addition by subtraction. He was a Pro Bowl DE, but as a LB he had major flaws. I think that Jones will be a better true 3-4 OLB than Kampman could ever be.

As for Harris, this hurts. Whatever his faults, Harris was (until his injury) one of the better shut-down corners in the league. Hopefully Williams can pick up the slack, as well as the rest of the back-ups.

Any thoughts on trying to re-sign Harris next year (based on his surgery) in a more nickel/dime role, instead of an every down DB? Could give us a strong 5th DB off the bench if he would be willing.


Profootballfocus.com is now my go-to website for everything football. They look at every play of every game and grade the players. They have any reasonable stat you could think of--especially handy is the YAC listings for Wide Receivers and the hurries listings for the Defensive players.

They gave every player a .75 for a hurry, a 1 for a hit, and a 1.25 for a sack. They added them together and divided the score by the amount of plays rushed.

Kampman was 8th in the league. He hasn't been sacking, but that's not the only impact a pass-rusher has, especially for a guy that gets as many double-teams as Kampman. I think Harris is the bigger loss, but Kampman was definitely a good player at OLB. Great in coverage? Not necessarily, but that would have come, and he actually was rushing the passer better than people gave him credit for.
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MWarrior2008_old
It's not a good thing by any means but I don't think it's as bad as what we may think it is. We still have some depth at D-Line/LB and even though Tramon Williams will most likely take Al Harris' spot but if McCarthy remembers how good he did with the very limited PT he got at CB in preseason I would not be surprised to see Brett Swain get some playing time at CB on Thursday. Not sure it will happen but I wouldn't be surprised to see it and if it does hopefully Brett can perform as well in regular season play as he did in the limited time he saw in preseason. If not we may have to suffer through seeing Jarrett Bush play at CB and that would scare the crap out of me.
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I think Brett Swain is on IR. the Packers will just sign a corner or two this week and give them a week to learn the system.
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MBC2K4_old
magnum1 wrote:


Were you and gotnogame separated at birth?


Ohhhhhhhh go cry, I don't like Al Harris, GET OVER IT! He's been overrated for years.
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cameroncrazies02
I think everyone's blowing the Kampman thing out of proportion. Clay Matthews has been awesome this year and when he stepped in when Kampman went down, he was all over the QB. I'm pretty sure it was against Dallas, he just blew by Flozell Adams and was all over the field. If we need to go big we can with Pickett, Jenkins, Jolly, Raji in a rotation, when they go small Matthews steps in at DE.

As for Harris, it'll hurt a little more but Tramon Williams will do just fine and maybe we'll get to see what Brandon Underwood can do.
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Kampman is not a huge loss at all and could actually help the team. The only time he really benefited the team from being out there was on third and long. He couldn't cover a running back coming out of the back field and was basically totally lost anytime he was in coverage.

Al Harris won't be that big of loss as far as the starting 11 goes, but I think it will hurt them when Williams is replaced as the nickel back. There isn't much of a gap between Williams and Harris. There is a huge gap between Williams and whoever the Packers are going to use as their nickel back.
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what scares me most about these injuries is people saying harris isn't going to be a big loss...sure when you put in tramon williams it isn't a HUGE loss...but when you basically take out harris in the DB heavy packages and bring in the likes of J - Bush...then we are looking at larger problems...I know a few people have a thing for Bush and like him but the guys an absolute puke...only contribution hes made to this team is on special teams and I truthfully don't know why hes on the team...he makes one play a game at most and people seem to think the guys worth keeping around...for every 1 play he makes he gets burnt on 5...packers secondary is in trouble...I'd be shocked if Woodson's receivers get a ball thrown their way the rest of the year
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