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coach40
LG wrote:


Coach40 wrote:


MWarrior2008 wrote:


And to think they're talking about firing the offensive coordinator...hmm...you know I hate the Bears but I think if you're tryin to fix that offense maybe a change in the receiving corp./firing the WRs coach would be a much better change than firing the O Coordinator and contemplating hiring Charlie Weis. Because it's those WRs that are the big reason why Cutler's season has been so crappy. That and it doesn't help that the running game hasn't done much to take the pressure off of him...and let's not forget that the defense hasn't done much either so so much pressure rides on Jay Cutler but he has nothing to work with.


It starts from the top and works it way down. The Ocoordinator needs to devise a game plan that benefits his weapons. Personally, I think OC is to blame here. You have a good TE, a great RB who can catch, and some average WR. With the handful of Bear games I have seen I place the blame solely on Cutler. He has been horrible. He overthrows his routes, misreads Defenses, and loses his composure. Now I think he has the ability to be a good QB but this year he was weak. CUtler was definitely the anti-mental giant.


I wouldn't really call Forte a good back, let alone a great back.


Thank you...I was actually going to write he is a good but not great. Forgot that part!
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wizzler
Coach40 wrote:


LG wrote:


Coach40 wrote:


MWarrior2008 wrote:


And to think they're talking about firing the offensive coordinator...hmm...you know I hate the Bears but I think if you're tryin to fix that offense maybe a change in the receiving corp./firing the WRs coach would be a much better change than firing the O Coordinator and contemplating hiring Charlie Weis. Because it's those WRs that are the big reason why Cutler's season has been so crappy. That and it doesn't help that the running game hasn't done much to take the pressure off of him...and let's not forget that the defense hasn't done much either so so much pressure rides on Jay Cutler but he has nothing to work with.


It starts from the top and works it way down. The Ocoordinator needs to devise a game plan that benefits his weapons. Personally, I think OC is to blame here. You have a good TE, a great RB who can catch, and some average WR. With the handful of Bear games I have seen I place the blame solely on Cutler. He has been horrible. He overthrows his routes, misreads Defenses, and loses his composure. Now I think he has the ability to be a good QB but this year he was weak. CUtler was definitely the anti-mental giant.


I wouldn't really call Forte a good back, let alone a great back.


Thank you...I was actually going to write he is a good but not great. Forgot that part!


I pointed out before the Bears game his great numbers.

Him and Derek Anderson probably the most overrated and hyped one year wonders of all time.

The bears were 24th in yards per game and in 26th yards per rush. That was last year and things went down hill...more. Forte catches the ball well but he is not a running back to worry about.


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LG wrote:


I think only Bears fans thought that they wouldn't suck. I checked a few weeks ago and I'm sure it hasn't changed but the Bears offense is actually worse this year than it was last year.


I have a preseason NFL magazine just in the other room that is a collaboration of sportscasters, analysts, and writers across the country that had the bears winning the NFC North this year, and also had Jay Cutler rated the best QB when ALL aspects (arm strength, mobility, vision, precision... blah blah blah about 15 categories) in the whole NFL. So no, Bears fans weren't the only one. And that's not the only predictions I saw by a major media picking the Bears to win the North.

I believe Forte set some record in college??? Maybe if the Bears had more than one offensive lineman that isn't already a few years past their prime Forte would fare a little better.
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mrmike527
I thought the Bears were Super Bowl bound. A great QB, DT, and Coach usually equals fantastic success.

Then the QB turned out to play badly with the poor coach, and the DT has completely lost his dominance due to one too many surgeries. Angelo has built a disaster of a team in Chicago.
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lg11
Twista_05 wrote:


LG wrote:


I think only Bears fans thought that they wouldn't suck. I checked a few weeks ago and I'm sure it hasn't changed but the Bears offense is actually worse this year than it was last year.


I have a preseason NFL magazine just in the other room that is a collaboration of sportscasters, analysts, and writers across the country that had the bears winning the NFC North this year, and also had Jay Cutler rated the best QB when ALL aspects (arm strength, mobility, vision, precision... blah blah blah about 15 categories) in the whole NFL. So no, Bears fans weren't the only one. And that's not the only predictions I saw by a major media picking the Bears to win the North.

I believe Forte set some record in college??? Maybe if the Bears had more than one offensive lineman that isn't already a few years past their prime Forte would fare a little better.

Garrett Wolfe was pretty good in college too and Ryan Grant wasn't very good in college, what's your point? Was that magazine written before Favre signed with the Vikings? I don't see how anyone could have voted for the Bears to win the north. They have no o-line, they have no wide receivers and apparently they had a crappy defense and coaching. Cutler benefited from a good Broncos offense with a solid line and running game and good wide receivers. I basically said all of that before the season and you and Mr. Mike (more Mr. Mike) basically called me an idiot.
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I was out in Colorado when the Cutler deal happened - 2 out of every 3 people were happy. Most of the level-headed Broncos fans I was around knew that Cutler was a 'poor mans Favre,' and wanted a safer QB. I'm not saying they were happy to get Orton, but a lot of them were not upset seeing Cutler leave.
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mrmike527
I would say Cutler could be extremely successful in this offense if Shanahan was at the helm.

QBs don't often benefit from "good receivers." That's the problem with what you were saying. Its 99% of the time WRs benefitting from good QBs--with very rare exceptions (guys like Randy Moss in his prime). Good O-Lines definitely help, but preseason, the Bears O-Line and Broncos O-Line weren't nearly as terribly mismatched as they are now.

I would be willing to bet that if Chris Williams develops into a competent Left Tackle, you could add one more decent Lineman to the Bears, keep the WRs generally the same (aside from basic year-to-year turnover) add Shanahan or another good Offensive coach and Cutler will look fantastic again.

Cutler looks like young Favre without Holmgren, not young Favre without Sharpe.

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