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john42
@AdamSchefter: During appeal, Ndamukong Suh said his feet were numb from cold and he couldn't tell difference between Aaron Rodgers' feet and the ground.
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innercityivan
john42 wrote:
@AdamSchefter: During appeal, Ndamukong Suh said his feet were numb from cold and he couldn't tell difference between Aaron Rodgers' feet and the ground.


Such BS. I'd suspend him for simply for that lie.
He'd feel it in his ankle, knee, or hip..... just the fact his foot landed inches above the ground.
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wiscopetty
john42 wrote:
@AdamSchefter: During appeal, Ndamukong Suh said his feet were numb from cold and he couldn't tell difference between Aaron Rodgers' feet and the ground.

Dude...at least own it.
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db11
He stays suspended if this is Week 12. The almighty dollar wins in the end, no surprise there.

That said, how about we talk about the Lions QB? 0-16 on the road vs. teams with winning records? Yeesh. Stafford looked incredibly mediocre on Sunday. Does Detroit basically have a less surly Cutler on their hands?
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hueby
This thread brings back memories of an old NFL video I have buried away featuring the "Wild men of the 1950's."

Anyways for fun you can compare suspensions and fines this season. See how Suh compares to others:

http://www.spotrac.com/fines-tracker/nfl/#
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mickjagger
mickjagger wrote:
wlhssuperjake08 wrote:
Suh wins his appeal, will "only" have to pay a $70,000 fine and will play against my Cowboys.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/24924309/lions-ndamukong-suh-wins-appeal-will-play-against-cowboys

[h]At the heart of the matter:[/h]

[h]A new formula removed Suh from the "repeat offender" list after Week 16[/h]. Suh's last violation was in Week 1 of 2013, when he was fined $100,000 for an illegal chop block on Vikings center John Sullivan. That was the biggest fine in NFL history for on-field conduct.

According to NFL rules, a player who goes 32 games (including a maximum of two preseason games) without a violation is removed from the list.

[h]Thus, his history as a repeat offender was never cited in this week's case.[/h]

Suh had been fined eight previous times and has one previous suspension, for two games in 2011, for stepping on the right arm of Packers lineman Evan Dietrich-Smith. This is his first fine for 2014.

The rule, from the Player Policy Manual, reads:

"The repeat offender policy has been modified for 2014 in terms of what a player must do in order to be removed from the 'repeat offender' category. Specifically, any player who violates a safety-related rule will be considered a potential repeat offender and will be treated as such should he commit a further violation during a subsequent period of [h]32 consecutive games. After that period, the player will no longer be considered a potential repeat offender and will be subject to discipline as a first-time offender should he commit an additional violatio[/h]. For the purposes of calculating the 32-game period, preseason, regular season, and post-season games will be counted; however, only two of the 32 games can be preseason games."

Interestingly, the rule also provides that [h]players are notified of their status[/h] by the first game of the regular season, [h]so Suh knew he'd be off the repeat offender list after Week 16[/h].

For his career, Suh has been fined over $200,000 by the NFL, and his 38 penalties are the second-most by a defensive lineman since 2010, according to ESPN Stats & Information.


Full Story:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12099681/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-wins-appeal-play-playoff-game-vs-dallas-cowboys
Another thought ... If Suh is guilty enough to be fined $70K, why is he not guilty enough to remain suspended? The integrity & credibility of the NFL is once again in question.

The cynical side of me also makes me wonder how much, if any, the NFL's decision to reverse the suspension was influenced by TV, money & advertising leverage. After all, they want to present the very best product they possibly can, this weekend, to a national audience ....
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mickjagger
Lions' quarterback Matt Stafford's Barbie Doll fiance' apparently believes Stafford's torn sock in last Sunday's game was a bigger deal than Ndamukong Suh stepping on Aaron Rodgers' ankle ...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24926468/matthew-staffords-fiancee-says-nfl-is-biased-toward-aaron-rodgers
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db11
mickjagger wrote:
Lions' quarterback Matt Stafford's Barbie Doll fiance' apparently believes Stafford's torn sock in last Sunday's game was a bigger deal than Ndamukong Suh stepping on Aaron Rodgers' ankle ...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24926468/matthew-staffords-fiancee-says-nfl-is-biased-toward-aaron-rodgers

Socks can get torn without getting blatantly stepped on...also, protecting Aaron Rodgers? Last I checked the refs didn't drop a hanky on that play.

People will see what they want to though...
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dawgstyle
db11 wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
Lions' quarterback Matt Stafford's Barbie Doll fiance' apparently believes Stafford's torn sock in last Sunday's game was a bigger deal than Ndamukong Suh stepping on Aaron Rodgers' ankle ...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24926468/matthew-staffords-fiancee-says-nfl-is-biased-toward-aaron-rodgers


Socks can get torn without getting blatantly stepped on...also, protecting Aaron Rodgers? Last I checked the refs didn't drop a hanky on that play.

People will see what they want to though...

I can even begin to guess how many times I have said that this week when referring to this incident. I don't believe Suh intentionally stepped on him. However once he did step on him I don't think he made any reasonable attempt to get off him in a timely manner.
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bhsblackhawks
dawgstyle wrote:
db11 wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
Lions' quarterback Matt Stafford's Barbie Doll fiance' apparently believes Stafford's torn sock in last Sunday's game was a bigger deal than Ndamukong Suh stepping on Aaron Rodgers' ankle ...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24926468/matthew-staffords-fiancee-says-nfl-is-biased-toward-aaron-rodgers


Socks can get torn without getting blatantly stepped on...also, protecting Aaron Rodgers? Last I checked the refs didn't drop a hanky on that play.

People will see what they want to though...


I can even begin to guess how many times I have said that this week when referring to this incident. I don't believe Suh intentionally stepped on him. However once he did step on him I don't think he made any reasonable attempt to get off him in a timely manner.
I kind of agree with you. I think the first time where he just grazed the leg was an accident, but the second step was on purpose. It just looked way too deliberate to me.
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dawgstyle
bhsblackhawks wrote:
dawgstyle wrote:
db11 wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
Lions' quarterback Matt Stafford's Barbie Doll fiance' apparently believes Stafford's torn sock in last Sunday's game was a bigger deal than Ndamukong Suh stepping on Aaron Rodgers' ankle ...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24926468/matthew-staffords-fiancee-says-nfl-is-biased-toward-aaron-rodgers


Socks can get torn without getting blatantly stepped on...also, protecting Aaron Rodgers? Last I checked the refs didn't drop a hanky on that play.

People will see what they want to though...


I can even begin to guess how many times I have said that this week when referring to this incident. I don't believe Suh intentionally stepped on him. However once he did step on him I don't think he made any reasonable attempt to get off him in a timely manner.

I kind of agree with you. I think the first time where he just grazed the leg was an accident, but the second step was on purpose. It just looked way too deliberate to me.

My thoughts behind it not being intentional was simply he wasn't looking. What are the chances he would have known exactly where to step and land on Rodgers leg, not once, but twice, see as how Rodgers could have been moving without looking at where to step.

If you laid on the ground behind me and I tried to intentionally step on both of your legs without looking I don't think I could guarantee I would hit both. However I know that I wouldn't stand on there nearly as long as Suh did if I did get lucky and hit both.
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db11
dawgstyle wrote:
bhsblackhawks wrote:
dawgstyle wrote:
db11 wrote:
mickjagger wrote:
Lions' quarterback Matt Stafford's Barbie Doll fiance' apparently believes Stafford's torn sock in last Sunday's game was a bigger deal than Ndamukong Suh stepping on Aaron Rodgers' ankle ...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24926468/matthew-staffords-fiancee-says-nfl-is-biased-toward-aaron-rodgers


Socks can get torn without getting blatantly stepped on...also, protecting Aaron Rodgers? Last I checked the refs didn't drop a hanky on that play.

People will see what they want to though...


I can even begin to guess how many times I have said that this week when referring to this incident. I don't believe Suh intentionally stepped on him. However once he did step on him I don't think he made any reasonable attempt to get off him in a timely manner.

I kind of agree with you. I think the first time where he just grazed the leg was an accident, but the second step was on purpose. It just looked way too deliberate to me.


My thoughts behind it not being intentional was simply he wasn't looking. What are the chances he would have known exactly where to step and land on Rodgers leg, not once, but twice, see as how Rodgers could have been moving without looking at where to step.

If you laid on the ground behind me and I tried to intentionally step on both of your legs without looking I don't think I could guarantee I would hit both. However I know that I wouldn't stand on there nearly as long as Suh did if I did get lucky and hit both.

It just goes to show the kind of player Suh is.

"Oh, oops, I'm stepping on someone's leg.....*thinks for a second*....how can I make this hurt more?"

The fact that it's Rodgers and #12 reacting the way he did plays into the hype it received a bit. But if this was on a prone Corey Linsley five yards in the backfield, #63 likely reacts the same way and it gets the same "hey, look at that" attention from the Fox crew, and thus the NFL.

At the end of the day though it's laughable that anyone can think the NFL's reaction is based on Rodgers being the victim when the perpetrator is #1 on the league's list of players who probably shouldn't even sneeze on anyone after the whistle blows for fear of having his motives questioned.

But again, people will only see things in a way that benefits their bottom line...like the future ex-Mrs. Stafford is doing here.
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