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riseagainst
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
Anyone who is 'bangin' on Darrell Bevel as a QB for the Badgers missed a couple decades of horrible horrible Wisconsin QB's. Without Bevel the 1993 simply wouldn't have gotten to the Rose Bowl. He wasn't an all-American but he was so much better than Wisconsin had had over the years prior, that ripping him is just ridiculous. He did as much with limited talent than any player I have ever seen do for a Wisconsin Badger team. Take Bevel off that 1993 team and they would have been lucky to be above .500. He was the 'one' guy Alvarez needed to run the offense and Wisconsin was lucky to get him.

I highly disagree. That badger team had a pretty solid defense. And on offense they had the two-headed monster at RB of Brent Moss (who would have been a Heisman front runner the following year if he wasn't busted for pot in the offseason) and Terrell Fletcher (NFL player), an offensive line that had 4/5 guys play in the NFL, and JC Dawkins and Lee Deramus (another NFL player) at receiver. Playing QB on that 1993 team would be like playing QB at Alabama today, anybody could manage that team to a solid record.
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riseagainst wrote:

I highly disagree. That badger team had a pretty solid defense. And on offense they had the two-headed monster at RB of Brent Moss (who would have been a Heisman front runner the following year if he wasn't busted for pot in the offseason) and Terrell Fletcher (NFL player), an offensive line that had 4/5 guys play in the NFL, and JC Dawkins and Lee Deramus (another NFL player) at receiver. Playing QB on that 1993 team would be like playing QB at Alabama today, anybody could manage that team to a solid record.


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riseagainst wrote:

I highly disagree. That badger team had a pretty solid defense. And on offense they had the two-headed monster at RB of Brent Moss (who would have been a Heisman front runner the following year if he wasn't busted for pot in the offseason) and Terrell Fletcher (NFL player), an offensive line that had 4/5 guys play in the NFL, and JC Dawkins and Lee Deramus (another NFL player) at receiver. Playing QB on that 1993 team would be like playing QB at Alabama today, anybody could manage that team to a solid record.
   Wisconsin had the most efficient passing game in the Big 10 that year with Bevell at QB. Anyone who says 'anyone' could have run the Wisconsin offense that year simply didnt watch the games in real time or has no concept of how 'a' QB can make a difference. Bevell was the top rated QB in the Big 10 that year - are you saying 'anyone' could do that??? Bevell wasnt Troy Aikman or Roger Staubach, but he was the best QB at Wisconsin(at that time) since VanderKellen and I saw all of them. So why didnt they just play Jay Macias? Getting Bevell to transfer into the program was HUGE for Bucky football. It allowed Wisconsin football to show that they were going to be a 'player'. I remember when Bevell transferred in and immediately all the Madison sports people pooh-poohed it, with many saying Bevell wasnt a great athlete. He wasnt a great athlete but he was able to play QB in a way that Wisconsin could win games again. He was the ONE guy that team wouldnt have won many of the games they did, if he hadnt been the QB.
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riseagainst wrote:

I highly disagree. That badger team had a pretty solid defense. And on offense they had the two-headed monster at RB of Brent Moss (who would have been a Heisman front runner the following year if he wasn't busted for pot in the offseason) and Terrell Fletcher (NFL player), an offensive line that had 4/5 guys play in the NFL, and JC Dawkins and Lee Deramus (another NFL player) at receiver. Playing QB on that 1993 team would be like playing QB at Alabama today, anybody could manage that team to a solid record.
While much of what you say about the '93 Badger football team is accurate, Rise against, the fact remains, Darrell Bevell was an important cog in the team's success.  Your Alabama analogy  is b.s. and unfair to Bevell.  I agree with Squeeze.  Meanwhile, Rise Against, it appears you missed my post responding to your initial post regarding Bevell's importance to the '93 team.  I will re-post for your enjoyment:

riseagainst wrote:


In all seriousness, the Badgers likely would have been national champions that year with any QB other than Bevell, particularly since there were no undefeated teams that year (1993). Wisconsin finished 10-1-1 with their lone loss to the lowly Gophers (a game in which Bevell threw 5 INTs) and their lone tie was 14-14 to Ohio State at home, in which Bevell fumbled two snaps under center inside the redzone (one inside the 15 late in the 3rd quarter with the Badgers up 14-7).
Noteworthy: Bevell threw for 423 yards (still the UW single-game record) in that 5-INT game at Minnesota in 1993, in a furious 2nd-half rally after Bucky had fallen way behind and had to abandon their vaunted running game with the Gophers laying back in coverage, knowing the Badgers had to throw. 

Bevell also was the Big 10's 1st-team all-conference QB in '93, throwing for 2390 yards in 12 games (199 ypg) on 187 completions in 276 passing attempts (67.8%) with 19 TD's, 11 INT's and a passing efficiency rating of 155.2, all Badger single-season records at the time.

I would argue that it was in large part BECAUSE of Darrell Bevell that Wisconsin was even in position to challenge for the national championship in 1993 ...  

Bevell finshed his Badger football career in 1995 with 7686 passing yards and 59 TD's, which remain all-time Badger career highs.

Bevell also tops the Badger career passing list with 646 completions, 35 completions in a single game and 5 TD's in a single game. 

Bevell's INT-rate wasn't too shabby either.  He averaged less than 1 INT per game (.86) per game (39) over 45 career games and he had a 1.51 TD/INT ratio (59/39) for his career.
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Profile of Bevell's coaching career and an update of what his plans are since being released as the O/C of the Seattle Seahawks:

https://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/football/professional/tom-oates-former-badgers-great-and-ex-nfl-assistant-darrell/article_89c87ecc-47d4-57a8-87bc-504d7e18a836.html#utm_source=host.madison.com&utm_campaign=%2Femail%2Fbadgerbeat%2F&utm_medium=email&utm_content=5D559092085BC880050104111A26A8920ACCC4B8
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