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traviswilson
I know they struggled, but terminating a human being for job performance seems awfully harsh. They could have just terminated his contract.
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db11
traviswilson wrote:
I know they struggled, but terminating a human being for job performance seems awfully harsh. They could have just terminated his contract.


RIP Darrell Bevell.
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wiscopetty
Much like Dom Capers, this is a move that's about 3 or 4 years too late. The Seahawks fans that I know have wanted Bevell's head on a stick since at least the second Super Bowl run.
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
traviswilson wrote:
I know they struggled, but terminating a human being for job performance seems awfully harsh. They could have just terminated his contract.




               Your statement about 'job performance' strikes me as being an odd statement. Have you ever run a business?(that you owned). I think firing someone for job performance is the #1 thing an employer needs to do IF that employee has been deemed to be performing sub-par. Do you think people deserve a lifetime job or what? I have had 3 businesses in my life and ALWAYS fired people for 'job performance' issues ONLY. That is how people should be judged in my opinion. If Bevell wasn't performing up to expectations, as an employee the owner(GM/coach/etc) or whoever should certainly fire him. We may not agree, but that is part of a business decision. We as fans don't run the NFL teams, so we wouldn't have any idea if Bevell was performing up to expectations.

I have always liked Bevell as a coach and would love to see him as the OC for the Wisconsin Badgers, but I don't think it is unfair to fire him for his job performance at Seattle, if the performance was deemed sub-par. Everyone doesn't work out in every business(same in sports). Those who run the Seattle team made the decision that Bevell wasn't performing up to expectations - that happens in the real world every single day. It might be deemed as unfair by some as how they state it, but that is life.
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coach40
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:




               Your statement about 'job performance' strikes me as being an odd statement. Have you ever run a business?(that you owned). I think firing someone for job performance is the #1 thing an employer needs to do IF that employee has been deemed to be performing sub-par. Do you think people deserve a lifetime job or what? I have had 3 businesses in my life and ALWAYS fired people for 'job performance' issues ONLY. That is how people should be judged in my opinion. If Bevell wasn't performing up to expectations, as an employee the owner(GM/coach/etc) or whoever should certainly fire him. We may not agree, but that is part of a business decision. We as fans don't run the NFL teams, so we wouldn't have any idea if Bevell was performing up to expectations.

I have always liked Bevell as a coach and would love to see him as the OC for the Wisconsin Badgers, but I don't think it is unfair to fire him for his job performance at Seattle, if the performance was deemed sub-par. Everyone doesn't work out in every business(same in sports). Those who run the Seattle team made the decision that Bevell wasn't performing up to expectations - that happens in the real world every single day. It might be deemed as unfair by some as how they state it, but that is life.


I don't think you comprehend what Travis was saying. The way coachw12 worded it made it seem like they terminated (killed) Bevell. Hence, the sarcasm in Travis' response to him. 
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thecrackerjack
wiscopetty wrote:
Much like Dom Capers, this is a move that's about 3 or 4 years too late. The Seahawks fans that I know have wanted Bevell's head on a stick since at least the second Super Bowl run.


Seahawks fans have wanted him gone, but they should be critical of Schneider. That offensive line has been atrocious for years. It is difficult to be a quality offensive coordinator when you can't run the ball and your QB is constantly running for his life.
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coachw12
traviswilson wrote:
I know they struggled, but terminating a human being for job performance seems awfully harsh. They could have just terminated his contract.


Travis, human beings are never terminated. They are neutralized.  I am not joking either. That is how they tell you talk about eliminating another human being in the military.  
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db11

thecrackerjack wrote:


Seahawks fans have wanted him gone, but they should be critical of Schneider. That offensive line has been atrocious for years. It is difficult to be a quality offensive coordinator when you can't run the ball and your QB is constantly running for his life.

Trading Unger for Graham may have been a sexy move, but it precipitated the fall of their O-Line...and Graham has been a disappointment.

The Eddie Lacy signing backfired miserably, and they had no real backup plan.

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mickjagger
I have nothing against Darrell Bevell personally.  I have met the man and conversed.  More witty and affable than one might think.  I also have fond memories of his playing days at UW, especially his sophomore season (at age 25), when he led the Badgers to a Rose Bowl win, following the 1993 season.

However, with all of that said, I hope to God that Mr Bevell ends up nowhere near the current UW football program.
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riseagainst
mickjagger wrote:
I have nothing against Darrell Bevell personally.  I have met the man and conversed.  More witty and affable than one might think.  I also have fond memories of his playing days at UW, especially his sophomore season (at age 25), when he led the Badgers to a Rose Bowl win, following the 1993 season.

However, with all of that said, I hope to God that Mr Bevell ends up nowhere near the current UW football program.


In all seriousness, the Badgers likely would have been national champions that year with any QB other than Bevell, particularly since there were no undefeated teams that year. Wisconsin finished 10-1-1 with their lone loss to the lowly Gophers (a game in which Bevell threw 5 INTs) and their lone tie was 14-14 to Ohio State at home, in which Bevell fumbled two snaps under center inside the redzone (one inside the 15 late in the 3rd quarter with the Badgers up 14-7).
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dawgstyle
riseagainst wrote:


In all seriousness, the Badgers likely would have been national champions that year with any QB other than Bevell, particularly since there were no undefeated teams that year. Wisconsin finished 10-1-1 with their lone loss to the lowly Gophers (a game in which Bevell threw 5 INTs) and their lone tie was 14-14 to Ohio State at home, in which Bevell fumbled two snaps under center inside the redzone (one inside the 15 late in the 3rd quarter with the Badgers up 14-7).


Admittedly I was quite young back then and remember very little of it.  But I wonder if undefeated WI would have jumped 1 loss FSU who ended up with wins against 5 teams ranked in the final poll, 2 in the top 5 and 1 loss to #2 ND.  

Looking at that FSU team, they played an insane schedule that season.
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thecrackerjack
riseagainst wrote:


In all seriousness, the Badgers likely would have been national champions that year with any QB other than Bevell, particularly since there were no undefeated teams that year. Wisconsin finished 10-1-1 with their lone loss to the lowly Gophers (a game in which Bevell threw 5 INTs) and their lone tie was 14-14 to Ohio State at home, in which Bevell fumbled two snaps under center inside the redzone (one inside the 15 late in the 3rd quarter with the Badgers up 14-7).


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mickjagger

riseagainst wrote:


In all seriousness, the Badgers likely would have been national champions that year with any QB other than Bevell, particularly since there were no undefeated teams that year (1993). Wisconsin finished 10-1-1 with their lone loss to the lowly Gophers (a game in which Bevell threw 5 INTs) and their lone tie was 14-14 to Ohio State at home, in which Bevell fumbled two snaps under center inside the redzone (one inside the 15 late in the 3rd quarter with the Badgers up 14-7).
Noteworthy: Bevell threw for 423 yards (still the UW single-game record) in that 5-INT game at Minnesota in 1993, in a furious 2nd-half rally after Bucky had fallen way behind and had to abandon their vaunted running game with the Gophers laying back in coverage, knowing the Badgers had to throw. 

Bevell also was the Big 10's 1st-team all-conference QB in '93, throwing for 2390 yards in 12 games (199 ypg) on 187 completions in 276 passing attempts (67.8%) with 19 TD's, 11 INT's and a passing efficiency rating of 155.2, all Badger single-season records at the time.

I would argue that it was in large part BECAUSE of Darrell Bevell that Wisconsin was even in position to challenge for the national championship in 1993 ...  

Bevell finshed his Badger football career in 1995 with 7686 passing yards and 59 TD's, which remain all-time Badger career highs.

Bevell also tops the Badger career passing list with 646 completions, 35 completions in a single game and 5 TD's in a single game. 

Bevell's INT-rate wasn't too shabby either.  He averaged less than 1 INT per game (.86) per game (39) over 45 career games and he had a 1.51 TD/INT ratio (59/39) for his career.   


 

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safetysqueezepleezzee11
Anyone who is 'bangin' on Darrell Bevel as a QB for the Badgers missed a couple decades of horrible horrible Wisconsin QB's. Without Bevel the 1993 simply wouldn't have gotten to the Rose Bowl. He wasn't an all-American but he was so much better than Wisconsin had had over the years prior, that ripping him is just ridiculous. He did as much with limited talent than any player I have ever seen do for a Wisconsin Badger team. Take Bevel off that 1993 team and they would have been lucky to be above .500. He was the 'one' guy Alvarez needed to run the offense and Wisconsin was lucky to get him.
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