baker18
So I have been thinking a lot about the current stage of the EVC and where it stands now compared to how it will look like next year. I looked into all sports aspects mainly guy sports to determine my thougths I would like others people opinions on this as well. I will look at the teams leaving and the teams joininig and determine what conference will be better.

Teams that will be staying
Clintonville
FVL
Freedom
Little Chute
Waupaca ( all sports but football)

Teams Leaving

Berlin ( This seems to be a no brainer. They have the furthest distance to travel of any school that has to play in the fox valley area. They have only had one good football season and one good basketball season. Outside of that their athletic program has a tough time competing in this conference. Leaving this conference will be good for them.

Winneconne ( This is a surprise but at same time not surprise as they joined with likes of berlin omro and ripon 7 years ago it only makes sense they leave with them. Winneconne has been up and down when you look at their athletic program. Soccer was terrible when it first started now they have a power house. Football has been consistently inconsistent but always compete. Baseball always seems to be in the bottom third of league. Basketball has deffinatly taken a turn for worse. They are respectable in some aspects, but leaving might get them to be more competitive at all levels.

Ripon ( Ripon is a mix between Berlin and Winneconne. They have struggled in certain sports, and have been good at others. Soccer was a joke for the first five years in the league, now they have brought a competive squad into the fold. Football was thought to be the big dog that would knock Waupaca from the top early. They ended up having one good season and one decent year. Since then it has been a struggle to compete. Baseball has been solid from day one and will continue to be good. Basketball has been a decent program throughout but have now turned into an exceptional program. They will be heading to a conference where they have the potential to dominate in every sport considering how the teams they will be joining they play in non conference play and have a combined winning percentage of around 615 for all sports.

Xavier ( This was the biggest surprise here to find out Xavier will be leaving no matter how hard they fought to stay. I don't like this move because it will be killing two of the best rivalries in the area in FVL and LC. One thing you have to say though is No one will be sad to see them go for Soccer. They have dominated that conference to the point where it wasn't even fun to watch. Even with moving they will still dominate in that sport. Football They have a powerhouse every year and are always at the top. That will change next year as they will have to fend off Seymour Menasha and west de pere as well as Waupaca again if they expect to keep that up. Baseball has been decent as well look for that to maybe take a step forward. Then you have basketball. They have always been great no matter how people look at them going into the season. They may take a step back in the new conference as west de pere and Seymour as well as shawno will give them more tough tests every night and their wont be as many gimme games for them.


New Arrivals

Oconto Falls ( This is a surprise team that will be joining this league. They were formally in the Valley 8 but left for bay conference now they are coming back. I can some up their athletics in one word Terrible. They don't compete at any sport and are always at the bottom. I don't know if much will change when they come here, but I do see them being able to compete a little more.

Denmark ( I honestly thought New London would switch here before Denmark, but that is not the case. A former packerland team that switched to bay now on way to EVC. They have a decent rivalry with Freedom right now and will soon make new rivalries. The athletic program for them is mediocre. Soccer is terrible. They have been for years and I wouldn't be surprised if they cancelled their program and joined with another school. Football used to be really good then had a three year dip. They appear to be on uprise again and could be a force soon. Baseball is a powerhouse and they should compete for title year in and year out. Basketball was a beast back in 05-07. Since then it has been on a steady decline. This year they have been much better and more competitive and look for that trend to continue.

Lux Casco ( This was a move that many saw coming. Sure their travel will be longer than some like, but they play most of these teams in non conference games and have done well in all of them. Soccer is at the highest level it has ever been. They went to state for the first time last year and should continue to field a great program. Football has always been solid. This past season they finally showed true potential and had a great year. Baseball has always been a middle of the pack team and should be about there when they move. Basketball used to be the dominating sport in the 05-08 seasons. The had a terrible four year stretch after that, but have shown they the past two seasons that they will be good once again and will compete for title.

Marinette ( This move I don't like at all. Not Just because of the travel aspect of it, but what was point with it. They don't have rivals or anyone outside maybe Oconto falls and Clintonville that they will even compete with. Every single sport much like Oconto falls is terrible with the exception of soccer and football. I will rate them as bad not terrible. They are always in bottom of league and unless drastic changes happen from now until august they will be there in this new league as well.

Wrightstown ( This is a move everyone saw coming as they have been trying to join this conference for years. They already have a great rivalry with LC and freedom, FVL and Denmark should make even more. Their athletic program is solid. Soccer is up and down. They have one great year and two bad years. They will look for more consistency as they switch leagues. Football is the top program they have and they will continue to be terrific every year. Baseball is always a decent program who at worst is middle of pack team. Expect them to be better as less dominate teams await. Basketball is a solid program that has been trending up and up the last 5 years. They will continue to be solid and compete for titles in this league.

I think the current EVC is more top heavy than the new conference will be as teams like Xavier, FVL, and Little Chute seem to be at top all the time and Berlin, Clintonville, and Ripon seem to be at bottom more ofthen than not. The new conference I see being more competitive in every aspect minus, the fact that some teams will still dominate one specific sport, but the rest of the league will be more competitive. Sure a lot of rivalries will be gone and travel will increase a bit, but new rivalries will grow and competition I feel will be much better and more balanced throughout.

What does every one else feel
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baker18
traviswilson wrote:
baker18 wrote:
So I have been thinking a lot about the current stage of the EVC and where it stands now compared to how it will look like next year. I looked into all sports aspects mainly guy sports to determine my thougths I would like others people opinions on this as well. I will look at the teams leaving and the teams joininig and determine what conference will be better.

Teams that will be staying
Clintonville
FVL
Freedom
Little Chute
Waupaca ( all sports but football)


New Arrivals

Oconto Falls ( This is a surprise team that will be joining this league. They were formally in the Valley 8 but left for bay conference now they are coming back. I can some up their athletics in one word Terrible. They don't compete at any sport and are always at the bottom. I don't know if much will change when they come here, but I do see them being able to compete a little more.

I think the current EVC is more top heavy than the new conference will be as teams like Xavier, FVL, and Little Chute seem to be at top all the time and Berlin, Clintonville, and Ripon seem to be at bottom more ofthen than not. The new conference I see being more competitive in every aspect minus, the fact that some teams will still dominate one specific sport, but the rest of the league will be more competitive. Sure a lot of rivalries will be gone and travel will increase a bit, but new rivalries will grow and competition I feel will be much better and more balanced throughout.

What does every one else feel

Oconto Falls' "terrible" athletic program has a softball state tourney trip, girls basketball state tourney trip, and 2 volleyball state tourney trips in the last 5 years. I'd be ecstatic to be that kind of terrible.


i said i focused more on guys sports than girls. I guess i should have clarified that they guy program minus wrestling is terrible.
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While I disagree with some of your synopsis, I have to say that I am looking forward to the new conference when it comes to wrestling. I will go out on a limb and predict that at least half of the conference champions will end up placing on the podium at State as well.
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I think the Apple Bowl will survive in football. Even though Xavier has dominated recently over FVL. Marinette was going to be an odd fit regardless of which league it was put in. I think they should have gotten a waiver and joined UP Great Northern (Marquette, Escanaba, Gladstone, Kingsford, and longtime rival Menominee) which would've been a good fit enrollment wise and would be somewhat less travel for them.
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baker18 wrote:
So I have been thinking a lot about the current stage of the EVC and where it stands now compared to how it will look like next year. I looked into all sports aspects mainly guy sports to determine my thougths I would like others people opinions on this as well. I will look at the teams leaving and the teams joininig and determine what conference will be better.

Teams that will be staying
Clintonville
FVL
Freedom
Little Chute
Waupaca ( all sports but football)


New Arrivals

Oconto Falls ( This is a surprise team that will be joining this league. They were formally in the Valley 8 but left for bay conference now they are coming back. I can some up their athletics in one word Terrible. They don't compete at any sport and are always at the bottom. I don't know if much will change when they come here, but I do see them being able to compete a little more.

I think the current EVC is more top heavy than the new conference will be as teams like Xavier, FVL, and Little Chute seem to be at top all the time and Berlin, Clintonville, and Ripon seem to be at bottom more ofthen than not. The new conference I see being more competitive in every aspect minus, the fact that some teams will still dominate one specific sport, but the rest of the league will be more competitive. Sure a lot of rivalries will be gone and travel will increase a bit, but new rivalries will grow and competition I feel will be much better and more balanced throughout.

What does every one else feel

Oconto Falls' "terrible" athletic program has a softball state tourney trip, girls basketball state tourney trip, and 2 volleyball state tourney trips in the last 5 years. I'd be ecstatic to be that kind of terrible.
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formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
While I disagree with some of your synopsis, I have to say that I am looking forward to the new conference when it comes to wrestling. I will go out on a limb and predict that at least half of the conference champions will end up placing on the podium at State as well.



Everytime a new conference is put in place there is always seems to be one sport that is better off for it. THis case wrestling will suddenly be amazing in this conference. The thing I am going to miss the most is the rivalries. LC and Xavier have an amazing rivalry for basketball and pretty much every other sport. FVL and Xavier as well. Take Xavier out and your losing two great rivalries and replacing them with a non rival team. Freedom and Wrightstown have a great rivalry so that helps conference and LC and Wrightstown also have a decent rivalry so that could become stronger as well. The thing that is really going to be a struggle in this conference is travel distance now.

Since I am from LC lets use them as an example. The furthest they have to go for a conference game is 1 hr. And that is to Berlin. Now Half the league will be over an hour away. Oconto falls 1 hr 15 minutes Casco 1hr 25 min Marinette 1 hr 40 min. Denmark is close to an hour as well. This will be difficult for winter sports due to weather concerns and schools always frowned upon early releases. Now we will have more early releases as we have more travel. I guess I am for Wrightstown joining this conference because they have tried to before. Oconto Falls I could see as well just because they were in this conference before. Marinette and Casco don't make sense to me. New London should have left the bay and came to the EVC. They used to be in the old Central Wisconsin Conference back in 90's. They would be more of a fit IMOP.
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Does anyone else Feel that New London should be in the EVC instead of Marinette?
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baker18 wrote:
Does anyone else Feel that New London should be in the EVC instead of Marinette?

The problem with Marinette is that they don't have any schools around them of similar size... Regardless of who you put them with, schools are not going to be happy with travel.
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formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
baker18 wrote:
Does anyone else Feel that New London should be in the EVC instead of Marinette?

The problem with Marinette is that they don't have any schools around them of similar size... Regardless of who you put them with, schools are not going to be happy with travel.


It seems that some of the realignment was based on competing not enrollment. Across all sports Xavier will probably be a better competitor in the Bay than Marinette but enrollment wise there isn't much difference so one has to ask is the added travel less important than the the ability to compete consistently in most sports? I guess it is.




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blade12 wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
Does anyone else Feel that New London should be in the EVC instead of Marinette?

The problem with Marinette is that they don't have any schools around them of similar size... Regardless of who you put them with, schools are not going to be happy with travel.
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baker18
I get that they want all teams to compete, but Travel should also be taken into consideration. Oconto falls cant compete in the Bay and they will struggle in EVC as well. They struggle against d5 schools as well. In their case you can throw enrollment out the window. They should be put with Oconto, coleman Peshtigo and those schools up their. Marinette is the same way. Not only will travel suck for all schools, but they struggle to compete as well. I get that they don't have much schools around here that they can be put with, but they need to be put up with some of the Michigan schools. Casco, Denmark, and Wrightstown wont have trouble competing so that wont be a problem. OUr society has become more based on winning in sports instead of best interest for the school. The top two factors should be 1. Enrollment: you don't want a school with 800 students with a conference of 400-500 student schools. 2 factor is Travel: You don't need to have schools travel more than an hour for games. Especially during winter months. When schools start travelling to far that's when it becomes harder to schedule make up games at times. The least important factor should be competing. Sure every school wants to be competitive in sports, but it also goes through cycles and schools will eventually become competitive again. IDk I guess athletic departments and schools as a whole have forgotten the true meaning of high school sports and have worried more about winning and competive advantage.
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