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thebillwaltontrip
Don't know what's more impressive, the fact that Ohio State racked up 42 points despite four turnovers or that gimmick offensive juggernaut Oregon only managed 20 points despite those four extra possessions.

As for Urban Meyer deciding to punch in that last touchdown, big deal. There were plenty of games this season where Oregon ran up the score and padded Mariota's stats so I see nothing wrong with it.

Also, for what it's worth, Cardale Jones showed me more next level throws in these past three games that he's played than Mariota showed in his entire career at Oregon. I wouldn't blame the kid one bit if he decided to declare for the draft. He has a huge arm and Ohio State's quarterback situation is going to be one of the most watched storylines heading into next season. His stock will likely never be higher than it is right now.
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wiscopetty
thebillwaltontrip wrote:
Don't know what's more impressive, the fact that Ohio State racked up 42 points despite four turnovers or that gimmick offensive juggernaut Oregon only managed 20 points despite those four extra possessions.

As for Urban Meyer deciding to punch in that last touchdown, big deal. There were plenty of games this season where Oregon ran up the score and padded Mariota's stats so I see nothing wrong with it.

Also, for what it's worth, Cardale Jones showed me more next level throws in these past three games that he's played than Mariota showed in his entire career at Oregon. I wouldn't blame the kid one bit if he decided to declare for the draft. He has a huge arm and Ohio State's quarterback situation is going to be one of the most watched storylines heading into next season. His stock will likely never be higher than it is right now.

Agreed, I have zero idea what will happen with the logjam OSU has at QB next year. I get the sense Braxton will transfer/switch positions while Barrett and Jones will duke it out for the starting spot. Most OSU fans I know seem to believe JT still has the inside track going into next season, but how do you not start the kid who just led you to a national title?
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dawgstyle
thebillwaltontrip wrote:
Don't know what's more impressive, the fact that Ohio State racked up 42 points despite four turnovers or that gimmick offensive juggernaut Oregon only managed 20 points despite those four extra possessions.

As for Urban Meyer deciding to punch in that last touchdown, big deal. There were plenty of games this season where Oregon ran up the score and padded Mariota's stats so I see nothing wrong with it.

Also, for what it's worth, Cardale Jones showed me more next level throws in these past three games that he's played than Mariota showed in his entire career at Oregon. I wouldn't blame the kid one bit if he decided to declare for the draft. He has a huge arm and Ohio State's quarterback situation is going to be one of the most watched storylines heading into next season. His stock will likely never be higher than it is right now.


I'm not sure of many teams who don't run some kind of gimmick offense in college. You can do that when every team runs a base defense. This is why great college QBs fail so often in the pros. No aspect of the game is similar.
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thebillwaltontrip
Most teams do implement some gimmick formations and plays to some extent, but Oregon's offense is 100% gimmick stuff.
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wiscopetty
thebillwaltontrip wrote:
Most teams do implement some gimmick formations and plays to some extent, but Oregon's offense is 100% gimmick stuff.

What's gimmicky about it though? The pace? That's translated to the NFL rather well with Kelly.

The only offenses I'd label as gimmicky are ones like the Wildcat.
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riseagainst
wiscopetty wrote:
thebillwaltontrip wrote:
Most teams do implement some gimmick formations and plays to some extent, but Oregon's offense is 100% gimmick stuff.

What's gimmicky about it though? The pace? That's translated to the NFL rather well with Kelly.

The only offenses I'd label as gimmicky are ones like the Wildcat.

Did it though? Just like Oregon, Philly can't cut it against the big boys when it counts. The problem with that offense is that when it runs into a fast and physical defense, it gets off schedule and is forced to do things its not used to doing, and then things just snowball downhill from there.
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bhsblackhawks
riseagainst wrote:
wiscopetty wrote:
thebillwaltontrip wrote:
Most teams do implement some gimmick formations and plays to some extent, but Oregon's offense is 100% gimmick stuff.

What's gimmicky about it though? The pace? That's translated to the NFL rather well with Kelly.

The only offenses I'd label as gimmicky are ones like the Wildcat.

Did it though? Just like Oregon, Philly can't cut it against the big boys when it counts. The problem with that offense is that when it runs into a fast and physical defense, it gets off schedule and is forced to do things its not used to doing, and then things just snowball downhill from there.

Oregon's offense and Kelly's offense in Philly have the same issues any offense in the world does. If you stop the bread and butter without selling out to stop the bread and butter, everything else falls apart. The bread and butter of that offense is the inside running game. It's all predicated on establishing that, and all of the other gimmicky stuff runs off that. The sweeps, reverses, QB keeps, deep passes, and even the WR screens depend on the inside running game drawing an extra defender into the box. If you can stop the inside running game with your front 7, you can probably win the game. It's how Stanford has beaten Oregon in the past few years, it's how Ohio St. beat Oregon, and it's the most consistent factor during Kelly's losses in the NFL.

The thing that I love about Kelly's offense at Philly is that he has done an awesome job meshing Read-Option philosophies with West Coast philosophies.
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