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db11
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
yzerman1 wrote:
The Brewers have a great opportunity to become a really good team heading into the 2018 season. They have tremendous talent at Wisconsin but it is going to take time for them to develop. Make a couple of trades and acquire Top 100 prospects and the talent only gets deeper. Do nothing and worry about putting people in the stands and this franchise will be a fourth place team forever.

Safe to assume talent not playing well right now as a team for Wisconsin? An 11-30 record (worst in the Midwest League) doesn't exactly scream "tremendous talent" to me, unless of course it's all pitching or hitting and they just aren't able to overcome the deficiency in the other area.


As I understand it, the team is chock full of teenagers....some of whom probably still need some rookie ball seasoning, but as is the state of the farm system, they're up in A ball and carrying the team.
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formerwiacbaseballer
db11 wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
yzerman1 wrote:
The Brewers have a great opportunity to become a really good team heading into the 2018 season. They have tremendous talent at Wisconsin but it is going to take time for them to develop. Make a couple of trades and acquire Top 100 prospects and the talent only gets deeper. Do nothing and worry about putting people in the stands and this franchise will be a fourth place team forever.

Safe to assume talent not playing well right now as a team for Wisconsin? An 11-30 record (worst in the Midwest League) doesn't exactly scream "tremendous talent" to me, unless of course it's all pitching or hitting and they just aren't able to overcome the deficiency in the other area.

As I understand it, the team is chock full of teenagers....some of whom probably still need some rookie ball seasoning, but as is the state of the farm system, they're up in A ball and carrying the team.

That's the type of reply I was looking for.... Haven't been following that close so was wondering if there might be a reason for a terrible record despite the talk that they are a talented group.
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formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
db11 wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
yzerman1 wrote:
The Brewers have a great opportunity to become a really good team heading into the 2018 season. They have tremendous talent at Wisconsin but it is going to take time for them to develop. Make a couple of trades and acquire Top 100 prospects and the talent only gets deeper. Do nothing and worry about putting people in the stands and this franchise will be a fourth place team forever.

Safe to assume talent not playing well right now as a team for Wisconsin? An 11-30 record (worst in the Midwest League) doesn't exactly scream "tremendous talent" to me, unless of course it's all pitching or hitting and they just aren't able to overcome the deficiency in the other area.

As I understand it, the team is chock full of teenagers....some of whom probably still need some rookie ball seasoning, but as is the state of the farm system, they're up in A ball and carrying the team.

That's the type of reply I was looking for.... Haven't been following that close so was wondering if there might be a reason for a terrible record despite the talk that they are a talented group.


That is exactly the case. I heard their manager Matt Erickson talk about the make up of the team and their plan before the season started. Don't get caught up in wins and losses for them this year.

I think 7 of their top 10 draft picks from last year are on the roster and about half of those are 19 yr old kids. Their #1 pick last year, Mederios, doesn't turn 19 until May 25th.
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longball12
blade12 wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
db11 wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
yzerman1 wrote:
The Brewers have a great opportunity to become a really good team heading into the 2018 season. They have tremendous talent at Wisconsin but it is going to take time for them to develop. Make a couple of trades and acquire Top 100 prospects and the talent only gets deeper. Do nothing and worry about putting people in the stands and this franchise will be a fourth place team forever.

Safe to assume talent not playing well right now as a team for Wisconsin? An 11-30 record (worst in the Midwest League) doesn't exactly scream "tremendous talent" to me, unless of course it's all pitching or hitting and they just aren't able to overcome the deficiency in the other area.

As I understand it, the team is chock full of teenagers....some of whom probably still need some rookie ball seasoning, but as is the state of the farm system, they're up in A ball and carrying the team.

That's the type of reply I was looking for.... Haven't been following that close so was wondering if there might be a reason for a terrible record despite the talk that they are a talented group.


That is exactly the case. I heard their manager Matt Erickson talk about the make up of the team and their plan before the season started. Don't get caught up in wins and losses for them this year.

I think 7 of their top 10 draft picks from last year are on the roster and about half of those are 19 yr old kids. Their #1 pick last year, Mederios, doesn't turn 19 until May 25th.

I think Mederios and Harrison could be the real deals. I like the last year plus of signings, including the international market signing.
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The T-Rats are 11-30 on the year. Records and minor league stats are meaningless, just look at Matt Clark as an example. The pitcher I really like off this years team is Cy Sneed, their third round pick last year. Monte Harrison has struck out 54 times in 121 plate appearances and is hitting .156 on the year. If you are just scouting the stat line you would call him a bust. However I have seen him numerous times so far this year, I was at the game when he hit two home runs in April, and can say he is going to be the real deal. It is going to take lots of time though.
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longball12
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
yzerman1 wrote:
If you are keeping Gomez and Lucroy for next year, then it makes no sense to trade Garza, Lind, or K-Rod. The minor league system is basically barren. Orlando Arcia is going to be a star and better be playing shortstop after the Super 2 date next June in Milwaukee. The Brewers have a chance now to play their young guys to see what they have to work with going forward. Khris Davis needs to be playing every day. If Taylor Jungmann is going to be in the rotation next year, he should be pitching in the majors now. The Brewers have the worst record in the National League. They rank dead last in OBP, only Colorado has a worse ERA, and they lead the National League in errors committed. This is a bad team, the numbers don't lie. They have been playing better recently but if you win 82 games or 72 games, either way you are not going to be playing in October.

Don't let longball see you write that... If he is good enough to play out of Spring Training, he should be with the Brewers right away. Who cares about dates!!! [afro]

Dude. Come on. We all know my argument was about the way the team handles it every time. I understand the reasoning, but don't lie and tell the fans you want them to work on their swing, their defense, etc. 15 days doesn't fix what they are supposedly working on. Just be honest, and say: "We want to save ourselves a year of arbitration and a couple million dollars." I know why they hold them back.
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formerwiacbaseballer
longball12 wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
yzerman1 wrote:
If you are keeping Gomez and Lucroy for next year, then it makes no sense to trade Garza, Lind, or K-Rod. The minor league system is basically barren. Orlando Arcia is going to be a star and better be playing shortstop after the Super 2 date next June in Milwaukee. The Brewers have a chance now to play their young guys to see what they have to work with going forward. Khris Davis needs to be playing every day. If Taylor Jungmann is going to be in the rotation next year, he should be pitching in the majors now. The Brewers have the worst record in the National League. They rank dead last in OBP, only Colorado has a worse ERA, and they lead the National League in errors committed. This is a bad team, the numbers don't lie. They have been playing better recently but if you win 82 games or 72 games, either way you are not going to be playing in October.

Don't let longball see you write that... If he is good enough to play out of Spring Training, he should be with the Brewers right away. Who cares about dates!!! [afro]

Dude. Come on. We all know my argument was about the way the team handles it every time. I understand the reasoning, but don't lie and tell the fans you want them to work on their swing, their defense, etc. 15 days doesn't fix what they are supposedly working on. Just be honest, and say: "We want to save ourselves a year of arbitration and a couple million dollars." I know why they hold them back.

And as I stated before, teams CAN'T tell the truth in those situations because the Player's Union would use it against them!!!
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