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I read an article about his transfer to AC Milan. Sir Alex Ferguson isn't surprised that this might be happening either. Arsene Wenger has also expressed interest in Beckham training with Arsenal.

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I heard he wanted to be loaned to AC Milan to stay in shape for WC qualifiers since Capelli or whatever his name is, won't take any players for England who aren't playing domestically at the time.
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DB1985 wrote:


I heard he wanted to be loaned to AC Milan to stay in shape for WC qualifiers since Capelli or whatever his name is, won't take any players for England who aren't playing domestically at the time.


Correct. In order for Beckham to put on his country's jersey, he has to be playing in what would be MLS' offseason, so him and Milan will mutually benefit if this deal goes through. Beckham will be back for LA after that.

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It's not as simple as him going to Milan for a short while, and then going back to LA. He's gonna have to make a decision: England or LA. If he wants to continually be considered for the English 1st team, his "loan" will lead to a request to be sold back to Europe. If he's simply considering a couple loan seasons to put himself in position to be a large part of Englands trip to WC 2010, then he may end up focusing his club time solely back to LA.

Playing in the MLS will not prepare him for playing for England. I think what we are seeing is his greed (coming to the MLS for a big contract and huge endorsements) being overpowered by his competitive nature (wanting to play on a big stage).
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You believed the hype of his contract. his salary for LA Galaxy is around 5 or 6 million per year. he has endorsements that were already in place and they were added to make his contract signing look like this monsterous deal that no one could even think could happen. so thinking it was his greed is nothing, he wanted to be in LA to be closer to hollywood. he gave it a try and you know what the players here are not that good. the best young and older talent play in europe because that is where the best players play.

may take: he will be loaned the next 2 years during offseason back to europe so he can stay in shape. he hasnt done well over here...he is determined to get the galaxy deep in the playoffs but i doubt it will happen.

And the NBA to Europe comparison doesn't really make any sense anymore. there are a few, maybe 6-8 teams in europe that could compete in the nba...be just as good as the bucks. If you look at the nba and get rid of all the foreigners and they go back to europe (like european soccer has players mainly from every country but the US), I would put 10-20 teams in Europe in the same category as high level nba teams. Just to make you think:

What if a club had:

Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili
loul deng
Dirk Nowtzki
yao Ming

or other players such as:

Jose Calderon
Leandro Barbosa
Andres Nocioni
Andris Biendrins
Bogut


and im not even mentioning: Pau Gasol, Rudy Fernandez, Marc Gasol, Yi Jialian, Andrea Bargani, Ronny Turiaf, Nene, Ben Gordon (England), Nicholas Batum, Luis Scola, Walter Hermann, Chris Kaman, or boris diaw.


plus there are players in europe that are pretty solid that aren't over in america. so the comparison is not comparable.
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kicknrun wrote:


You believed the hype of his contract. his salary for LA Galaxy is around 5 or 6 million per year. he has endorsements that were already in place and they were added to make his contract signing look like this monsterous deal that no one could even think could happen. so thinking it was his greed is nothing, he wanted to be in LA to be closer to hollywood. he gave it a try and you know what the players here are not that good. the best young and older talent play in europe because that is where the best players play.


He wouldn't have gotten the type of endorsements he did without coming to LA. He wasn't as marketable in Europe because of the talent he had to compete with. He comes to America, and he suddenly becomes the face of the game in this country. That made him very marketable here, and that landed him the big money endorsements.

If he didn't come for the money, why'd he come? It obviously wasn't competitive nature, because you don't go to a lesser league for the competition. It didn't help him in any way as a player really. Now he is struggling to maintain a spot with England. The only benefit he got from coming over here was the money and Hollywood glamour.
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David Beckham was getting paid big time before he even stepped foot in america. He made $29.1 million the year before he came to america through his salary alone! that doesnt include his endorsements. David beckham had endorsements with Adidas, Gillette, Motorola, Pepsi, and Armani before he step foot in america. those are his big sponsors. For Real Madrid, the estimated that beckham sales were $600 million on merchandising sales for real madrid (which he got a profit of).

His base salary for LA Galaxy is $5.5 milllion plus he gets a percentage of the endorsements, ticket sales, and sponsorship revenues (galaxy sponsoship). They estimate this to be another $5.5 million per year. So he took $11 million to come to america when his final year at real madrid was for $29.1 million. mmmmm make me wonder...29 or 11 million? which is greater?


if your thinking he wanted to come here to become a celebrity i dont think you really understand the game over there in europe. beckham and his family were mobbed at all times. he now can walk in public, plus he wanted to promote his soccer academy in LA and get acculumated for his after soccer playing days to LA...possible movie or show appearances? it wasnt about competition at all, otherwise he wouldve stayed in europe....mls is like rookie baseball...no where near the big leagues.

first get your facts straight before making claims....i am done with this blog because i proved you wrong and you were way out of context and needed be taught that what you may hear isnt always the true story...beckham gets $250 over 5 years hahaha get out of northwoods and get a reality check.
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kicknrun wrote:


David Beckham was getting paid big time before he even stepped foot in america. He made $29.1 million the year before he came to america through his salary alone! that doesnt include his endorsements. David beckham had endorsements with Adidas, Gillette, Motorola, Pepsi, and Armani before he step foot in america. those are his big sponsors. For Real Madrid, the estimated that beckham sales were $600 million on merchandising sales for real madrid (which he got a profit of).

His base salary for LA Galaxy is $5.5 milllion plus he gets a percentage of the endorsements, ticket sales, and sponsorship revenues (galaxy sponsoship). They estimate this to be another $5.5 million per year. So he took $11 million to come to america when his final year at real madrid was for $29.1 million. mmmmm make me wonder...29 or 11 million? which is greater?


if your thinking he wanted to come here to become a celebrity i dont think you really understand the game over there in europe. beckham and his family were mobbed at all times. he now can walk in public, plus he wanted to promote his soccer academy in LA and get acculumated for his after soccer playing days to LA...possible movie or show appearances? it wasnt about competition at all, otherwise he wouldve stayed in europe....mls is like rookie baseball...no where near the big leagues.

first get your facts straight before making claims....i am done with this blog because i proved you wrong and you were way out of context and needed be taught that what you may hear isnt always the true story...beckham gets $250 over 5 years hahaha get out of northwoods and get a reality check.


You need to join us here in 2008, going on 2009. David Beckham had a big contract from his prime. David Beckham was not going to get the big money you think he was going to get had he stayed in Europe. Hell, you want to bring up his last year with Madrid, did you happen to notice where Beckham was for the final 30-35 minutes of the final game of that season, a game they needed to win to win the league title? Yes, he was on the bench. And he wasn't there because Madrid had a comfortable lead, Madrid didn't even have the lead. Yeah, that was just one example, there are more. But that is a prime example as to where his status was heading in Europe. Beckham wasn't the star over there anymore that you seem to think.

Alright, so you say Beckham didn't come for the money or the fame. Then why did he come? We both have said it wasn't for the competition (And I don't know why you were trying to argue with me on that when we agree that MLS is crap). Are you going to say he came to LA to get out of the spotlight of Europe? Are you saying he came here to begin his life after his playing career? If you are saying either, you are a fool.

He came for the money and exposure with the American media. Plain and simple. He is making more money now in America being the face of the game here than he would be making had he stayed in Europe. You can't compare it to what he made thanks to what he did in his prime. You have to compare what he is making now to what he would have been making had he stayed.

You tell me to get out of the Northwoods? Haha, you need to get out of 2004.
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You are an idiot you do not get it do you! For MLS he is making $5.5 million on his contract compared to $29.1 million from his last year in Europe. Beckham could have gotten more money than $5.5 million to stay in Europe. You are saying it was all for the money....it wasnt about money he was making more there! he came here to make himself even more marketable, as he had already tapped as much of the european market as he can. the last time beckham changed uni's in europe it was the greatest sales in jerseys by one player. he couldve done it again if he wanted to, even at that point in his career. get out of the northwoods...im not in 2004 or 2009 it is still 2008 buddy. maybe the snow has gotten to you already, come on now and think about it.....

$5.5 million or $29.1 million? which is greater...simple math here. and i will tell you the answer $29.1 million!


i had to respond to your idiocrocy and now i am done with this conversation. do the math beckham would make more money in europe had he stayed...the clubs there have more money to spend.
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