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are the that good or is the competition that bad?
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wcbsas
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are the that good or is the competition that bad?


Greendale Martin Luther certainly isn't bad competition.

WBD and LWL probably are in the lower half of the conference. The next couple of weeks against Shoreland Lutheran and Racine Lutheran will really tell the tale.

The challenge and goal is to keep Stoppenbach standing upright!
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OHIO_old
They have a tough road ahead of them. It will be interesting to see how they fare.
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wcbsas
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bad competition


Greendale Martin Luther certainly is not bad competition. Most of the teams BCC plays are a division or two higher.

The real tests coming up against Shoreland Lutheran and Racine Lutheran will tell alot about this team.

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bsbl12_old
obviously the southeast conference is going to have better teams... are you kidding? you cannot compare the level of competition in that way....its not even close to fair....the level of competition for a d7 team isnt bad, but not outstanding....and as far as trevon....would have been one of the better players in the southeast with the exception of a few standouts (john clay, beckum, etc) but he was only one player
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db11
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bad competition... have u ever heard of trevon hughes... if he is bad competition i whould hate to play against good competion. I am willing trevon is a better player than anyone on those schools u just named


Yeah, Trevon was great, so was Brandes in his day...didn't really do much to stop WLA and Shell Lake from putting a whupping on their teams though...there are some good players (Johnson), but on the whole the teams usually don't stack up.
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bad competition... have u ever heard of trevon hughes... if he is bad competition i whould hate to play against good competion. I am willing trevon is a better player than anyone on those schools u just named


one player does not make a team.....maybe in a terrible conference he could carry his team, but not in a quality small school conference.....
i know many schools are larger than BCC, but they are just terrible, bcc is lucky that have an easy road to the playoffs.
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Players from the SEC conference that are better than Trevon Hughes in football

David Kelsch (1st team all state) DE Tremper
Mike Wey (1st team all state, plays at Minn.) LB Oak Creek
Andy Valeri (1st team all state) DB Tremper
Matt Simmons (1st team all state) OL Park
Kyle Steffen (1st team all state) TE Burlington
Keven Hagans (1st team all state) WR Franklin
John Clay (WI player of the year) RB Park
Raymond Henderson (1st team all state, plays at Minn.) DE Oak Creek
Travis Beckum (1st team all state, plays at UW) TE Oak Creek
Ben Hemple (1st team all state) QB Franklin
Reid Oldenberg (1st team all state) RB Burlington
Ryhan Anderson (1st team all state) DE Oak Creek

THose are some names from the past three years.


it is impossible to compare him to players that play other positions, but i would take him over most of the players on that list with the exception of clay, beckum, and maybe a few others who are difficult to compare.....certainly a much better player than steffens and valeri
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OHIO_old
This argument could go on forever and neither side would have a clear advantage.

I would however like to thank jwh for pointing out then most obvious thing i have ever read on this site. You think that D1 powerhouses are better than D7 high school teams....no way, your joking me. (Extreme Sarcasm) Worst post ever right there.
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wcbsas
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bad competition... have u ever heard of trevon hughes... if he is bad competition i whould hate to play against good competion. I am willing trevon is a better player than anyone on those schools u just named


one player does not make a team.....maybe in a terrible conference he could carry his team, but not in a quality small school conference.....
i know many schools are larger than BCC, but they are just terrible, bcc is lucky that have an easy road to the playoffs.


You are being a bit biased and/or uninformed on this subject.

BCC has made the playoffs every year in the last 6 years. Shows a bit of consistency!

As a small school they play some good and some bad schools. Greendale Martin Luther, Shoreland Lutheran, Racine Lutheran, St. John's and University School are all bigger schools that BCC competes against.

Two years ago BCC advanced to the D7 state championship game, regardless of your bias against smaller schools that is a notable accomplishment.

BCC is not Park or Oak Creek or Mukwonago but they as a small school is probably one of the better programs in the state.

You might complain that BCC gets to play some schools that are weak but Park gets to play South Milwaukee and Horlick every year so what is difference?

Your private school bias appears to be blossoming. No one has ever said BCC is equal to Park or Burlington but as a D7 school their success over the years and in this year is solid.
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Just another thought here. Two of the top players from the MCC last year, transfered to play somewhere else. Scott Lynn transfered to Burlington, but after finding out he was to play on JV transfered back to Shoreland Luthern, where he is again putting up big numbers. Josh Micheleau after putting up huge numbers the past three years at BCC transfered to Union Grove where he has lost his job as starting running back and is now a blocking full back.
Who knows how good Trevon Hughes would have looked if he played in a good conference. Clearly he is a good basketball player but just because he looked good playing football doens't mean he is actually a good football player. I showed you two players that everyone in the MCC thought was really good, but cant cut it elsewhere.


i dont know what your beef is with the conferance but get your facts straight....scott lynn would not have been on jv at bhs...he got in some trouble there.....mishleau's true position is fullback....if youve ever looked at the kid you would realize that...meanwhile he is making huge holes...lots of tackles....and still getting plenty of carries
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no one at bcc ever said he would be a d1 running back....he has a d1 build...could never be a d1 tailback there is no doubt about that

scott lynn would not be on jv at bhs...if you say he is hyped up i will completly agree with you...is he the type of back they feature in their offense?...no he is not....would he have been one of the starting three?...maybe not but he would be ahead of joe baumeister
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wcbsas
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I talk to the head coach at Burlington on a regular basis, and he told me the day after he told Scotty that he would be the #4 running back and play on JV, Scotty told him he was going back to Shoreland.

I've watched Josh play 2 times this year. He started the first game at RB and got pulled before half time because he was struggling so bad. So now all he is a blocking back. A far cry from a D1 running back prospect like he was being hyped at bcc.

So my facts are straight, thanks for the advice though.


Let me get this straight ....

You talked to the Burlington coach about a player who has left the program and you expect the coach to talk that player up? Any coach in that position would favorably talk up the players that he has on HIS team, not someone who has left. What would you expect?

Specific to Josh Mischeleau, his college position (if he's on offense) is/will be fullback, not running back. So at Union Grove he's playing the position he will be playing in college. Secondly, he's also a two way player at Union Grove playing LB as well, and he is playing extremely well at that position.

In the end, the MCC is not the SE Conference. Players are bigger, stronger with significantly more depth. But ... the MCC does have talented players and talented programs.
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Mishleau is a fumbler....D-3.


That one against Shell Lake in the 2nd quarter sealed the fate of BCC in that game...
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I've watched Josh play 2 times this year. He started the first game at RB and got pulled before half time because he was struggling so bad.



He didn't get pulled because he was struggling so bad, he got switched to more of a blocking back because the o-line was having trouble opening up holes against Big Foot's D-line. Josh has played very well as a blocking back and recognizes that he is needed in that role for the team to succeed. I never saw him play at BCC, but he has far surpassed my expectations at UG.
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