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Simply put, much like i said before this game, the Badgers will not win on the road against semi-quality opponents until they learn to play defense. Their screen defense is awful. Their help defense is awful. Their on the ball defense is awful. Their defensive rebounding(when the other team isnt shooting their best percentage of the year) is awful. Yes i know i could have just said that their defense is awful, but that isnt the point.

This team has been exposed as being weak in the paint. People are attacking at will against us and having loads of success. It seems to me that each night the team we play shoots lights out. One could surmise that we just caught them on a hot night. But when it happens time and again, one could more accurately surmise that the defense is allowing too many easy looks at the basket.

Simply put, this team is good. You cannot take that away from them. But they have height problems when Frank goes out. They have slow guards defending the ball leading to being beat off the dribble often. If you have a team that can take advantage of that, this will be the result. Until the defense is fixed(and i dont have an answer right now for that) this team will struggle against any team with a pulse.

Lucky for us, the scheduling gods have put Purdue on the schedule. This should be a gimme win for the Badgers. One desperately needed at this point.
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alandoamazing
longball12 wrote:
longball12 wrote:
whfan202 wrote:
Ouch. I see where everyone's coming from, but I feel it's not time to hit that panic button yet. I say Badgers win relatively comfortably.

Minnesota has some beef underneath and active guards. I watched the tOSU game and as a Badger fan I would worry.

Told ya.

And some other side points. I know Anderson is not good, but he certainly is big enough to put a body on a guy like Walker. Vito is still too raw and apparently thinks he can knock down 18 footers. The team has several flaws. Until Bo goes back to the days when he used to hedge on screens, this team will keep getting destroyed on the high pick and roll. Jackson is so lazy around the high screens that it is ridiculous.

And I am not mad. I picked them 4th this year in the Big Ten. This is where I saw them at prior to the season starting. I would love to see shot charts against us because it seems that everything is in the paint against them. That or unguarded jump shots. It's ok to be frustrated fans. It's early.



Bo never hedged hard on screens. He has always used the soft hedge/switch. It looks like that is what they are trying to do this year. The problem is that you have guards that are getting smoked off the pick and roll and are too slow to recover. This is combined with the fact that Dekker and Hayes (and Kaminsky to a lesser extent) look utterly lost when defending the pick and roll a lot of times. On some of those plays last night both of those guys didn't hedge at all to even give the defender a chance to recover, they just let the guy with the ball go right by them.

The three forwards last year covered up a lot of shaky defensive guard play. They were also absolutely terrible on offense, but that's another story.

Considering no one is really great at one on one defense on this team, I'd almost just rather see them switch on the majority of pick and roll situations. Yeah, the other team will get some good looks off mismatches, but it has to be better than what they are giving up now. But, Bo is playing the long game and trying to develop these guys into playing solid defense. Hopefully this turns around quickly. Letting a team score 81 points in 58 possessions is absurdly horrible.

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I honestly think it might be time to start Gasser at the point and start Hayes at the 4. We are just getting abused in the paint. I know we wouldn't have a back up if Kaminsky or Hayes both were to get into foul trouble, but something has to change. I'm sure my hatred for Jackson has something to do with this plan, but I'm just so sick of not being able to get a rebound.

I know Hayes has looked lost defensively, but he will get better. It's not like this plan can make things any worse.
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db11
Just tell Hayes to body up guys in the post instead of trying to steal every entry pass....had they done more of forcing that big clod to square up last night, he wouldn't have had a career-high in points.

When you weigh 250, you can't play post defense like you weigh 150.
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db11 wrote:
Just tell Hayes to body up guys in the post instead of trying to steal every entry pass....had they done more of forcing that big clod to square up last night, he wouldn't have had a career-high in points.

When you weigh 250, you can't play post defense like you weigh 150.


If you think Mo is a big clod now you should of seen him last year.

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I don't agree on that hedging comment Alando, and I could be wrong. I could swear that 5-6 years ago we used to hedge. I am almost sure of it. At least step out and make the guy hesitate for a second. Sitting back does NOTHING. If Gard or Bo can't see that then that is a definite flaw in their coaching abilities. That should have been corrected after the IU game.
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alandoamazing
longball12 wrote:
I don't agree on that hedging comment Alando, and I could be wrong. I could swear that 5-6 years ago we used to hedge. I am almost sure of it. At least step out and make the guy hesitate for a second. Sitting back does NOTHING. If Gard or Bo can't see that then that is a definite flaw in their coaching abilities. That should have been corrected after the IU game.



They have always done a bit of hedging, but it has never been a hard hedge. They've still done soft hedging for the most part this season, but for some reason the execution has been terrible, especially in the last few games. One of the bigger problems is that even if they slow down the guy going to the basket and do okay on the pick and roll itself, the rotation of the help has been even more terrible than the pick and roll defense. Guys aren't getting into position nearly fast enough (you'll not the ridiculously low level of charges being taken thus far) or simply aren't rotating over at all.

There's a lot of season to go and this team can definitely score. If they can get it clicking at least a little bit on the defensive end they're still a very good team. Who knows, maybe this team just isn't a great B1G conference team and is a lot better outside of the conference like Michigan was last year. They certainly haven't shown the toughness level needed to defend in B1G conference play yet.
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longball12
longball12 wrote:
whfan202 wrote:
Ouch. I see where everyone's coming from, but I feel it's not time to hit that panic button yet. I say Badgers win relatively comfortably.

Minnesota has some beef underneath and active guards. I watched the tOSU game and as a Badger fan I would worry.

Told ya.

And some other side points. I know Anderson is not good, but he certainly is big enough to put a body on a guy like Walker. Vito is still too raw and apparently thinks he can knock down 18 footers. The team has several flaws. Until Bo goes back to the days when he used to hedge on screens, this team will keep getting destroyed on the high pick and roll. Jackson is so lazy around the high screens that it is ridiculous.

And I am not mad. I picked them 4th this year in the Big Ten. This is where I saw them at prior to the season starting. I would love to see shot charts against us because it seems that everything is in the paint against them. That or unguarded jump shots. It's ok to be frustrated fans. It's early.
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thecrackerjack
alandoamazing wrote:
longball12 wrote:
I don't agree on that hedging comment Alando, and I could be wrong. I could swear that 5-6 years ago we used to hedge. I am almost sure of it. At least step out and make the guy hesitate for a second. Sitting back does NOTHING. If Gard or Bo can't see that then that is a definite flaw in their coaching abilities. That should have been corrected after the IU game.



They have always done a bit of hedging, but it has never been a hard hedge. They've still done soft hedging for the most part this season, but for some reason the execution has been terrible, especially in the last few games. One of the bigger problems is that even if they slow down the guy going to the basket and do okay on the pick and roll itself, the rotation of the help has been even more terrible than the pick and roll defense. Guys aren't getting into position nearly fast enough (you'll not the ridiculously low level of charges being taken thus far) or simply aren't rotating over at all.

There's a lot of season to go and this team can definitely score. If they can get it clicking at least a little bit on the defensive end they're still a very good team. Who knows, maybe this team just isn't a great B1G conference team and is a lot better outside of the conference like Michigan was last year. They certainly haven't shown the toughness level needed to defend in B1G conference play yet.


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Gophers bounced back from their win over Wisconsin earlier in the week, by traveling to Nebraska on Sunday and getting thumped by the Cornhuskers 82-78, in a game that really wasn't as close as the score might indicate. The Gophers trailed by as many as 15 pts in the 2nd half and were down by 10 with 1:20 to play in the game. Andre Hollins' (ankle) injury-replacement, Malik Smith, tied a school record with 8 3-pt shots made and finished with 29 pts. for the Gophers. Meanwhile, Terran Petteway tossed in 35 pts for Nebraska.

Badger-slayer, Maurice Walker, assumed his usual role off the bench for the Gophers, playing 18 mins, scoring 8 pts and hauling down 5 rebounds.

at Nebraska 82
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Box Score (Minnesota didn't include one in their game recap, above [] )
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