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dawgstyle wrote:
wcbsas wrote:
dawgstyle wrote:

I do like it. I think storming the court is acceptable. I just think there needs to be limitations. As you said doing it all the time dampens the experience. This is a case where I don't think it was warranted. Again they finished a game behind them in the conference. We aren't talking about a non tournament team knocking off the #1 team in the nation. We aren't talking about a great rivalry where the lesser team managed to upset the better team.

We are talking about a conference game where one team beat another. That happened 108 times in the Big Ten this year.

Wisconsin storms the court when they beat Duke and that is OK

but

Nebraska who has ZERO basketball history, a team projected to finish 12th out of 12 B10 teams beats a top 10 nationally ranked school and in doing so likely secured its first NCAA tournament bid in two decades and you have an issue with them sotrming the court. I could argue that this is much more warranted than Wisconsin ever was!


The team projection has absolutely nothing to do with it. The context of the situation should be taken in the moment its taking place, not 6 months earlier. At the time Nebraska was a fringe tournament team that finished 4th in the conference.

Let's say that Nebraska hadn't lost to a terrible Illinois team last week and therefore didn't need the WI win as badly. They would have then finished AHEAD of WI in the conference. Would you then STILL be adamant about their need to rush the floor? If not are you honestly suggesting that one win earlier in the year was the difference between it being ok to rush and not rush?

Nebraska isn't a bad basketball team. Coming into the game they had won 7 of their last 8 and had 1 loss at home on the season to Michigan by 1 point. It's not like this was David vs Goliath. Once again, they are a tournament team that stormed the court against another tournament team.

THIS Season:
1) It was a victory against a top ten ranked opponent
2) It was a victory against a #2 conference ranked opponent
3) It was a victory that secured (likely) an NCAA berth

Longer term:
1) It was a victory that secured (likely) it first NCAA berth since 1998. A loss would have forced NU to win at least two games in the B10 tournament, and even then it might not have been enough.

Yes this year NU is a decent team but this is the team and its fans first taste of success in nearly two decades! This is not Indiana who has national and conference championship banners hanging from its rafters. This isn't Wisconsin who has been to the NCAA every year in Bo Ryan's tenure. This is Nebraska, a team who has never won an NCAA tournament game. This is Nebraska a team predicted by most to finish 12th in the B10 this year.

Yes, if there are times to storm a court then this is one of them!
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mickjagger
dawgstyle wrote:
leadhead wrote:
Oh for crying out loud. Storming the court is an emotional response to an emotional victory, that's all. The seeds of the response are planted all week by the media leading up to the "Big Game." Does anyone really think students will be able to analyze if the victory is storm worthy or how this will look to the rest of the nation as the game winds down? Do you think they are ashamed of storming the court when ESPN or someone comments that it wasn't "worthy?" Who gets to decide what a student's emotions should be?


The answer to almost all of those questions is no. But just because I can't understand someones emotional state doesn't mean that I can't judge their actions.

Lot's of people do things they shouldn't do when they are emotional. Would you like a few hundred examples?

Regarding the "stormin' the court" issue, I would like to add a couple of observations/opinions.

1. In a convoluted way, it is a compliment to one's program to be court-stormed. Althought it means you've just lost a game, it also means the opponent's victory was an upset or a huge win in a very significant game or both. So, Im typically flattered when Bucky gets stormed ... because in most cases, it's the victorious opponent's fan paying a kind of "back-handed compliment and it is definitely an endorsement of the "respect card."

2. Having Followed the Badgers' mens basketball fortunes since the early '60's when Johnny Erickson was the haed coach and guys like Jumpin' Joe Franklin, Ken Barnes and Clarence Sherrod were entertaining the students & alumni at the old Fieldhouse, I never tire of seeing someone storm the court after defeating UW. NOBODY stormed Wisconsin for the 40 years of my fanship. The Badgers were never good enough or deserved enough respect to warrant being stormed.

3. For all of the reasons listed in my 1st 2 points and then some, it still messes with my senses to see a team like Indiana storm their home court as they did earlier this seaon after upsetting Wisconsin. For most of the period of time that I outlined above, Indiana and Big 10 Basketball excellence were synonomous. The Bobby Knight-coached Hoosiers owned Wisconsin and most of the other Big 10 teams. For most most of my 50 or so years of being a Badger basketball fan, one could not have fathomed or even conjured up the mental image of Hoosier basketball fans storming the court at Assembly Hall in Bloomington, IN because of an upset win over Wisconsin. But that was then & this is now ... and being a Badger mens basketball fan, although always fun, is a lot more rewarding these days!


On Wisconsin!
Wisconsin Sports Network Hall of Fame Inductee, 2012
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mickjagger
dawgstyle wrote:
Example. Iowa State storms the court after beating #7 Michigan.

Iowa State was a tournament team last year.

It was November!

Rivalry is non existent.

I mean really?

To the best of my research Indiana didn't storm the court after defeating #10 Michigan back on Feb 2nd.

But Indiana students stormed the court after defeating Wisconsin in January ... bigger win ... over a better team .... []

(threw that in there just for you Dawg, ....., ya know, just to get your blood pressure back up to its usual threshhold)
Wisconsin Sports Network Hall of Fame Inductee, 2012
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dawgstyle
mickjagger wrote:
dawgstyle wrote:
Example. Iowa State storms the court after beating #7 Michigan.

Iowa State was a tournament team last year.

It was November!

Rivalry is non existent.

I mean really?

To the best of my research Indiana didn't storm the court after defeating #10 Michigan back on Feb 2nd.

But Indiana students stormed the court after defeating Wisconsin in January ... bigger win ... over a better team .... []

(threw that in there just for you Dawg, ....., ya know, just to get your blood pressure back up to its usual threshhold)


I appreciate that. I was starting to think I was becoming a zombie.
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