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Badgers lost UWGB, granted GB is pretty good, but will the badgers ever get to the top of the big 10? How long has it been?
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I don't know much about their roster this season but I think Wisconsin women will continue to struggle. For whatever reason our women's program seems to struggle year in and year out. I think if one has not been made yet I would not be surprised to hear fans clamor for a coaching change.


Stone has been on the hot seat for awhile...
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DB wrote:


MWarrior2008 wrote:


I don't know much about their roster this season but I think Wisconsin women will continue to struggle. For whatever reason our women's program seems to struggle year in and year out. I think if one has not been made yet I would not be surprised to hear fans clamor for a coaching change.


Stone has been on the hot seat for awhile...


Well then the success better continue. I just looked it up on ESPN.com and on the Wisconsin Badgers website that the women's team is 3-1 currently. However though our roster seems small and has only 2 seniors so there is not many leaders still there to lead the young ladies.
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MWarrior2008 wrote:


DB wrote:


MWarrior2008 wrote:


I don't know much about their roster this season but I think Wisconsin women will continue to struggle. For whatever reason our women's program seems to struggle year in and year out. I think if one has not been made yet I would not be surprised to hear fans clamor for a coaching change.


Stone has been on the hot seat for awhile...


Well then the success better continue. I just looked it up on ESPN.com and on the Wisconsin Badgers website that the women's team is 3-1 currently. However though our roster seems small and has only 2 seniors so there is not many leaders still there to lead the young ladies.


What success? I wouldn't put too much stock in the first 4 games of the year, where cupcakes usually are played. UW tends to get manhandled in conference play year in and year out.
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BB21 wrote:


MWarrior2008 wrote:


DB wrote:


MWarrior2008 wrote:


I don't know much about their roster this season but I think Wisconsin women will continue to struggle. For whatever reason our women's program seems to struggle year in and year out. I think if one has not been made yet I would not be surprised to hear fans clamor for a coaching change.


Stone has been on the hot seat for awhile...


Well then the success better continue. I just looked it up on ESPN.com and on the Wisconsin Badgers website that the women's team is 3-1 currently. However though our roster seems small and has only 2 seniors so there is not many leaders still there to lead the young ladies.


What success? I wouldn't put too much stock in the first 4 games of the year, where cupcakes usually are played. UW tends to get manhandled in conference play year in and year out.


If you didn't notice I mentioned they were 3-1 currently albeit yes it is early in the season. I didn't say they were going to make the NCAA Tournament.
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I don't know much about their roster this season but I think Wisconsin women will continue to struggle. For whatever reason our women's program seems to struggle year in and year out. I think if one has not been made yet I would not be surprised to hear fans clamor for a coaching change.
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MWarrior2008 wrote:


DB wrote:


MWarrior2008 wrote:


I don't know much about their roster this season but I think Wisconsin women will continue to struggle. For whatever reason our women's program seems to struggle year in and year out. I think if one has not been made yet I would not be surprised to hear fans clamor for a coaching change.


Stone has been on the hot seat for awhile...


Well then the success better continue. I just looked it up on ESPN.com and on the Wisconsin Badgers website that the women's team is 3-1 currently. However though our roster seems small and has only 2 seniors so there is not many leaders still there to lead the young ladies.


Some facts to consider when discussing the UW women's basketball team. They are NOT exactly a "small" team. They have 6'4" Lin Zastrow & 6'2' Tara Steinbauer in their starting line-up at the post positions and 6'2" Anya Covington & 6'2" Ashley Thomas coming off the bench getting good minutes. UW's starters on the wings are 5'10" Teah Grant & 5'7" Alyssa Karel with 6'0" Taylor Wurtz, the 1st player off the bench at this position. The Badger ARE small at point guard with 5'3" Rae Lin D'Alie, but they get bigger at the point when Wurtz comes in at a wing & Karel moves over to the point. If you're familiar with women's basketball, one would probably refer to this line-up, overall, as average-sized, not huge, but certainly not small.

The Badgers may have only 2 seniors but D'Alie is a 4yr starter & Gant a starter for 2 yrs & parts of another. Karel & Steinbauer are juniors & have started &/or been big contributors from the beginning of their freshmen seasons. There's a lot of experience among those 4 players. IMO leadership is not a problem; performance on the court, especially on the offensive end, is a problem.

UW returns all 5 starters from the end of last yr (after Mariah Dunham was dissmissed midway thru the season for her off-court behavior, Steinbauer became a full-time starter). UW-Green Bay returns 1 starter from last season's 29-4 NCAA touney team. Besides returning starter 5'7" guard Celeste Hoewisch, the only other UWGB player with any appreciable playing time last season is 6'0" forward Kayla Tetschlag. In last season's game between the two teams, played in Green Bay, the Badgers gave UWGB one of its 4 losses on the season 59-47. UW won that game with virtually the same line-up that lost Monday night in Madison to a UWGB team with only 1 returning starter & 3 freshmen among its top 7 players. Go figure. UWGB has now defeated Bucky 2 of the last 3 years, both times at the Kohl Center.

But here's the kicker. Of UWGB's top 7 players , 6 are from Wisconsin, including all 5 starters, Adrian Ritchie & Heather Golden from DePere, Sara Eichler from Grafton, Kayla Tetschlag from Sheboygan & Celeste Hoewisch from Hortonville. The top 2 reserves, guard Julie Wojta & forward Stephanie Sension, hail from Mishicot WI & Hopkins, MN respectively. On the other hand, of UW's top 8 players, 3 are from Illinois (Gant, Thomas, Covington), 2 are from Minnesota (Karel & Steinbauer) & 3 are from Wisconsin (D'Alie from Waterford, Zastrow from Jefferson & Wurtz from Ripon). I think this comparison begs several questions to be asked, not the least of which is : Are the Badgers missing the boat on some pretty good home-grown talent? To my knowledge & recollection, Karel & Steinbauer were highly recruited on a national level after a couple of great AAU summers & some great success in high school in Minnesota. Wurtz, & Zastrow especially, were pretty highly recruited. D'Alie was an afterthought following a good state tourney in '06. And, although the Illinois girls, IMO, are pretty good players ( esp. Covington in the post & Jade Davis on the perimiter), I don't recall any of them being highly sought after. The most heavily recruited UWGB players were probably Tetschlag, a jr, & freshmen Eichler & Ritchie. My point is, in relation to "the bang you get for your buck," would UW be just as well off or maybe even better if it took a deeper look at the talent right here on its own turf? And if we take a closer look at UW's & UWGB's roster we haven't even touched on the subject of & the talent in the Milwaukee metro area (i.e. Nicole Griffith, Rachel Story, Sarina Simmons, etc.), where they end up & why. Or how about other talented players from the state like Jamie Braun (Marshfield) & Janel McCarville (Stevens Point), who went on to star at Indiana & Minnesota respectively, without even a sniff from UW?
Wisconsin's coaching is a subject for a whole 'nother thread. But I will say this. I was always in Lisa Stone's court. I've defended her in the face of many critics, probably because of her great success at DIII UW-Eau Claire which I followed closely because I'm an alumnus. But I am beginning to have my doubts. The Peter Principle might be in play here. If the Badgers don't have a VERY GOOD season in '09-'10, I think Alvarez may have to look at making a change. Because IMO the players are in place & there is a plethora of experience. If it doesn't happen now, I'm afraid it may not happen.
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