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Nice move.

No way Kohl gives this the go ahead, it is nice to see a real commitment to a championship team down the road and not going all in because we are exceeding expectations in a terrible East
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That ESPN article is clearly an outsider perspective who didn't watch Knight on a regular basis. He got his assists because he dominated the ball. He also hasn't become as lights out of a shooter as they try to claim. He was actually one of the few guys on the team that would screw up the rhythm of the offense quite frequently. If it wasn't for a few big 4th quarter shots, many outsiders wouldn't be so starry-eyed about him. Although an interesting perspective that I hadn't thought of, he and MCW would've been good together. Regardless, this off-season we do need to look for young guys in the form of Mayo and a big man. We definitely will need to upgrade our backcourt in the form of scoring off the dribble because Middleton and Dudley rely on other guys getting them the ball on the perimeter.
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Excellent assessment I read on the Bucks' very questionable move and regarding their point guard future...

Michael Carter-Williams is not that point guard. He can?t shoot, he?s not a great passer, and he?s not even a very good ball handler. For a team that already had spacing issues, he will likely make things worse. He?s one of those players who is better in theory than reality. And now the Bucks will probably take another 18 months to realize that they need to look elsewhere. Or maybe Tyler Ennis will surprise people and fill that role.

MCW is great on defense, and his length will make the Bucks miserable to score against, but that was never the problem with this team. They need offense, and MCW probably won?t help there. If the Bucks were going to trade Knight to the Suns, why couldn?t they have done it over the summer? As it stands, they would have been much better off keeping Knight through the end of this year and then doing their best to steal Ty Lawson this summer.

(If MCW works in Milwaukee, it will be the ultimate proof that Kidd is a real, true point guard whisperer. Or that the Sixers have no idea what they?re doing and are actively holding players back. Maybe both.)


Sure, Knight may not have been worth the money to invest in as the team's point guard of the future, but he was damn sure more valuable than what the Bucks got in return for him. They could've done better.
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woodhoops
I'm more on on BillWaltons side on this debate.

I think MCW is a very flawed player, and destined to be a defensive specialist. He has more value now if flipped for other assets.

Brandon Knight is not a max player, but he'll get close to it in free agency. You have to keep in mind that Milwaukee isn't really in the running for the top end MAX players.
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thebillwaltontrip
woodhoops wrote:
I'm more on on BillWaltons side on this debate.

I think MCW is a very flawed player, and destined to be a defensive specialist. He has more value now if flipped for other assets.

Brandon Knight is not a max player, but he'll get close to it in free agency. You have to keep in mind that Milwaukee isn't really in the running for the top end MAX players.


You hit the nail on the head. Milwaukee is never going to be a free agent destination for guys like Russell Westbrook. For the kind of player he was and what he brought to the team, Knight is as good of a player at the PG position that Milwaukee could've asked for with realistic prospects of keeping him around. Without him, the Bucks have looked absolutely ratchet and disorganized...blowing a double digit second half lead to an abysmal Lakers team and then barely cracking 70 points against an almost equally awful Utah team.

MCW is pure garbage...don't let his per game averages fool you, those were the direct product of high usage rate in Philadelphia. He is a highly flawed player and as I've said, Philadelphia didn't even wait 2 full years before dumping their "point guard of the future" at the very first chance they got.
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thebillwaltontrip wrote:
woodhoops wrote:
I'm more on on BillWaltons side on this debate.

I think MCW is a very flawed player, and destined to be a defensive specialist. He has more value now if flipped for other assets.

Brandon Knight is not a max player, but he'll get close to it in free agency. You have to keep in mind that Milwaukee isn't really in the running for the top end MAX players.


You hit the nail on the head. Milwaukee is never going to be a free agent destination for guys like Russell Westbrook. For the kind of player he was and what he brought to the team, Knight is as good of a player at the PG position that Milwaukee could've asked for with realistic prospects of keeping him around. Without him, the Bucks have looked absolutely ratchet and disorganized...blowing a double digit second half lead to an abysmal Lakers team and then barely cracking 70 points against an almost equally awful Utah team.

MCW is pure garbage...don't let his per game averages fool you, those were the direct product of high usage rate in Philadelphia. He is a highly flawed player and as I've said, Philadelphia didn't even wait 2 full years before dumping their "point guard of the future" at the very first chance they got.

Oh, so per game averages are the absolute indicator of talent in college basketball (otherwise, there's no way you say Okafor is better than Kaminski), but in MCW's case, they're garbage?
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MCW had 28 on 8-20 shooting, only 4 assists and 3 turnovers and we lose by 6. Yep, definitely missing Brandon Knight and eating crow on this one. We win this game if MCW stops chucking shots up and passes the ball to facilitate a better look.
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whfan202 wrote:
MCW had 28 on 8-20 shooting, only 4 assists and 3 turnovers and we lose by 6. Yep, definitely missing Brandon Knight and eating crow on this one. We win this game if MCW stops chucking shots up and passes the ball to facilitate a better look.

I'm hoping this is sarcastic.
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