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safetysqueezepleezzee11
hgerner13 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
hgerner13 wrote:
traviswilson wrote:
"Stats prove me wrong, so I'm going to go by a made-up criteria that is completely subjective and not based on anything other than me trying to be right"



Absolutely my opinion is subjective, you are 100% correct, but I'll take formulating my own opinion rather than than just telling people to look at stats without context. You can take the Matt Ryan's of the world, I'll use my eye test and go with Joe Montana and let's see whose team has more success. If all you're looking at is wins then Stave is the right guy for you, because the Badgers are sitting at 10-2 and have a great chance to win the Big Ten Championship, but clearly im not the only one who has ragged on the guy this season.

At the end of the day Wisconsin is sitting with a great chance to win the Big Ten title, and I hope Stave shows people like me who have been "overly critical" some crow to eat...if beating Ohio State is the result I'll set the table and take the first bite.


EYE TEST????? You cant be serious!
If you played against Ripon High School in one of the years they won a state title(2003 and 2005), you
weren't even born yet when Montana played his first 5 years in the NFL.
I remember those Ripon championships well, as my nephew was on the team.

How does one use the EYE TEST when they aren't born yet? (Montana's first 5 NFL years)
Would be like me saying Red Grange was better than Jim Brown when I never saw
Red Grange play even though I did see Jim Brown play.

Video tape, I presume hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!



Do people not watch older games, I find it really easy to access that kind of stuff and have seen plenty of Montana, as he is my favorite quarterback. I used the example to show that JUST using stats won't get you very far.



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
now that is really funny!
keep digging that hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hgerner13
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
hgerner13 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
hgerner13 wrote:
traviswilson wrote:
"Stats prove me wrong, so I'm going to go by a made-up criteria that is completely subjective and not based on anything other than me trying to be right"



Absolutely my opinion is subjective, you are 100% correct, but I'll take formulating my own opinion rather than than just telling people to look at stats without context. You can take the Matt Ryan's of the world, I'll use my eye test and go with Joe Montana and let's see whose team has more success. If all you're looking at is wins then Stave is the right guy for you, because the Badgers are sitting at 10-2 and have a great chance to win the Big Ten Championship, but clearly im not the only one who has ragged on the guy this season.

At the end of the day Wisconsin is sitting with a great chance to win the Big Ten title, and I hope Stave shows people like me who have been "overly critical" some crow to eat...if beating Ohio State is the result I'll set the table and take the first bite.


EYE TEST????? You cant be serious!
If you played against Ripon High School in one of the years they won a state title(2003 and 2005), you
weren't even born yet when Montana played his first 5 years in the NFL.
I remember those Ripon championships well, as my nephew was on the team.

How does one use the EYE TEST when they aren't born yet? (Montana's first 5 NFL years)
Would be like me saying Red Grange was better than Jim Brown when I never saw
Red Grange play even though I did see Jim Brown play.

Video tape, I presume hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!



Do people not watch older games, I find it really easy to access that kind of stuff and have seen plenty of Montana, as he is my favorite quarterback. I used the example to show that JUST using stats won't get you very far.



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
now that is really funny!
keep digging that hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't understand how that's funny? How else would I have been able to see guys from that era play if not by tape?
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diener34
john42 wrote:
McEvoy was basically Gordon's backup yesterday and that is why Gordon was not in the game when McEvoy was. It didn't really work, but it got Gordon some rest when he needed it. The goal before the game was to not play Clement at all.


It worked well enough.

Maybe you can answer this better than anyone...Why is UW short on depth at RB? Is everyone redshirting? Or do they just not have any other RB's?
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db11
diener34 wrote:
john42 wrote:
McEvoy was basically Gordon's backup yesterday and that is why Gordon was not in the game when McEvoy was. It didn't really work, but it got Gordon some rest when he needed it. The goal before the game was to not play Clement at all.


It worked well enough.

Maybe you can answer this better than anyone...Why is UW short on depth at RB? Is everyone redshirting? Or do they just not have any other RB's?


Vonte' Jackson had to give up football after a spate of ACL injuries and both freshmen (Deal and Kinlaw) redshirted after suffering injuries during camp and early in the year.
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john42 wrote:
formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
john42 wrote:
It has been nice to see Stave not play terrible the last two weeks.

Minnesota is lucky that game was even close. They still have a ways to go. They were an early fumble and a blown coverage away from getting run out of camp Randall. Also, that cheap shot on Melvin Gordon just shows they don't belong.

How did I know I was going to read something about this tonight.... []

If you are talking about the tackle in the 4th quarter that injured his ankle, I don't see that as a cheap shot... The tackler was just trying to hang on to get him down and the momentum of Gordon going to the ground caused the "twist." Far from cheap in my opinion.


I strongly disagree and so does Melvin Gordon. He even publicly called out the Minnesota player today.


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tweb1216
hgerner13 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
hgerner13 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
hgerner13 wrote:
traviswilson wrote:
"Stats prove me wrong, so I'm going to go by a made-up criteria that is completely subjective and not based on anything other than me trying to be right"



Absolutely my opinion is subjective, you are 100% correct, but I'll take formulating my own opinion rather than than just telling people to look at stats without context. You can take the Matt Ryan's of the world, I'll use my eye test and go with Joe Montana and let's see whose team has more success. If all you're looking at is wins then Stave is the right guy for you, because the Badgers are sitting at 10-2 and have a great chance to win the Big Ten Championship, but clearly im not the only one who has ragged on the guy this season.

At the end of the day Wisconsin is sitting with a great chance to win the Big Ten title, and I hope Stave shows people like me who have been "overly critical" some crow to eat...if beating Ohio State is the result I'll set the table and take the first bite.


EYE TEST????? You cant be serious!
If you played against Ripon High School in one of the years they won a state title(2003 and 2005), you
weren't even born yet when Montana played his first 5 years in the NFL.
I remember those Ripon championships well, as my nephew was on the team.

How does one use the EYE TEST when they aren't born yet? (Montana's first 5 NFL years)
Would be like me saying Red Grange was better than Jim Brown when I never saw
Red Grange play even though I did see Jim Brown play.

Video tape, I presume hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!



Do people not watch older games, I find it really easy to access that kind of stuff and have seen plenty of Montana, as he is my favorite quarterback. I used the example to show that JUST using stats won't get you very far.



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
now that is really funny!
keep digging that hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't understand how that's funny? How else would I have been able to see guys from that era play if not by tape?


Are you watching full games, or highlights? I can see how it would be funny to him watching highlights and saying you have a good understanding of his play. Perfect example:
"Son, what are you doing sleeping in my daughter's dormroom?"
-"Uhhhhh, i got to go, im late for class."
-"Its Saturday morning."
-"Then im really late for class. Where are my pants?"
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wisportsfan
Some more relevant stats to think about:
School Comp% YdsPerAtt [TD/Int] Rating
Stave Wisc. 58.1% 7.66 [2] 136
Solomon Arizona 58.2% 7.15 [4] 134
Mauk Missouri 53.5% 6.31 [2] 120.5

All of these QBs play for division leaders in a power conference

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hgerner13
tweb1216 wrote:
hgerner13 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
hgerner13 wrote:
safetysqueezepleezzee11 wrote:
hgerner13 wrote:
traviswilson wrote:
"Stats prove me wrong, so I'm going to go by a made-up criteria that is completely subjective and not based on anything other than me trying to be right"



Absolutely my opinion is subjective, you are 100% correct, but I'll take formulating my own opinion rather than than just telling people to look at stats without context. You can take the Matt Ryan's of the world, I'll use my eye test and go with Joe Montana and let's see whose team has more success. If all you're looking at is wins then Stave is the right guy for you, because the Badgers are sitting at 10-2 and have a great chance to win the Big Ten Championship, but clearly im not the only one who has ragged on the guy this season.

At the end of the day Wisconsin is sitting with a great chance to win the Big Ten title, and I hope Stave shows people like me who have been "overly critical" some crow to eat...if beating Ohio State is the result I'll set the table and take the first bite.


EYE TEST????? You cant be serious!
If you played against Ripon High School in one of the years they won a state title(2003 and 2005), you
weren't even born yet when Montana played his first 5 years in the NFL.
I remember those Ripon championships well, as my nephew was on the team.

How does one use the EYE TEST when they aren't born yet? (Montana's first 5 NFL years)
Would be like me saying Red Grange was better than Jim Brown when I never saw
Red Grange play even though I did see Jim Brown play.

Video tape, I presume hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!



Do people not watch older games, I find it really easy to access that kind of stuff and have seen plenty of Montana, as he is my favorite quarterback. I used the example to show that JUST using stats won't get you very far.



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
now that is really funny!
keep digging that hole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't understand how that's funny? How else would I have been able to see guys from that era play if not by tape?


Are you watching full games, or highlights? I can see how it would be funny to him watching highlights and saying you have a good understanding of his play. Perfect example:


I spent the summers of my sophomore, junior, and senior years of high school in San Francisco helping my uncle with his landscaping business. He had a ton of old 49ers memorabilia, a lot of that being old copies of game film dating back to the late 70s early 80s. He was really good friends with Bill Walsh and did a lot of landscaping for Bill. Knowing I was a huge Packers fan he would always play old 49ers games for me, that's almost all we did after work. I've seen more of the 49ers games from when Bill Walsh started coaching than I have any other game that isn't a Packers game, so naturally that means I've seen a lot of the early years of Joe Montana.

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