hodor64
I will not be critical of the mom. No parent should go through this and I am sure she is simply looking for answers. But the lawyer......I know lawyer bashing is clich?d and a fun topic around here, but this guy is an ambulance chaser, not two ways about it.....

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/2015/02/06/pop-warner-football-sued-over-wisconsin-mans-death/22970129/
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realitycheck
[] Here we go again! Although, a good lawyer representing the Pop Warner organization should be able to punch holes in this claim. There seems to be a vast amount of time that has gone by before all of these signs started to show up. Heck I played HS football back in the late 70's... maybe I should file a suite because my wife is always telling me there is something wrong with how my brains works. [rotfl]

All the lawyer representing Pop Warner has to do is cast doubt that playing football was the "sole" reason that this happen. How do we know that this young man didn't fall and hit his head over the past 6-8 years. While I feel terrible for this mom, this again looks like another one of those frivolous lawsuits that a lawyer sees a way to make some big money on.

I totally agree with the posts above!

BTW: How long has football been around now???
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kenny78
I agree. The lawyer should be dragged behind a vehicle. This is a patent case of ambulance chasing and suing any organization who might be remotely connected to this unfortunate individual. We as a society need to stop tolerating this kind of garbage and make these people (including the attorneys) foot the bill for bringing frivolous lawsuits that waste court time and cost other people a lot of money.
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trainer
Odd choice of language by the attorney, but, it shows how desperate the case is. The contention was that:

"by engaging in the business of sponsoring, organizing and promoting tackle football for children ? engaged in conduct that was outrageous, malicious, intentional and was done with the intentional disregard of Joseph Chernach's rights as well as all other children who played Pop Warner football, not just in the State of Wisconsin but everywhere in the United States"

This will be easily refuted when it's demonstrated that any conduct followed was that that is normally conducted by youth football organizations everywhere. Unless they did something exceptional and egregious, it's unlikely this suit will go anywhere.

This is a very sad case, but I am disinclined to automatically believe that football was the *primary* cause of the athlete's issues. If he indeed had CTE and dementia pugilistica, and football *contributed* to the advancing signs and symptoms, then it's likely that there is a yet known underlying cause that predisposes certain athletes to developing CTE/DP, which may be very helpful if that underlying cause/factor can be studied, identified, so that at least we can identify at risk individuals and head off occurrences like this for those seemingly very very very rare individuals.

Of course, his problems may have been due to an unrelated neurodegenerative disorder, perhaps an unrelated mental disorder, etc...
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hodor64
Thanks for the professional insight trainer. I think it is shown that the media is quick to glom on to any claim of CTE, and that all concussions will result in CTE. It is my impression that we are far from a complete knowledge of CTE, and you seems to confirm that.

What is problematic to me is all these "rainmaker" suits are attempting to attach to the NFL suit. They attempt to draw a nexus between football and concussions and thus liability ensues. However, the successful portion of the NFL suit is based on a claimed conspiracy between the teams, owners, coaches and medical staff to compel players to continue to compete despite knowing the dangers and willfully not disclosing information to provide information to the players. It is more akin to the Black lung suits of the 70's as a employee/employer relationship.

Theses secondary suits just want to say, football is dangerous, you sponsor football, you did something wrong.
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boneman56
This indeed a tragedy, but I'm still unclear as to why Pop Warner is being singled out, not the HS. The father of the young man who passed away was on the coaching staff at the HS. Also no mention that these concussions possibly occurred when the young man wrestled in HS.
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