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Woodland-East:

Brown Deer

2018 Record: 2-7 (2-6)

Notable Losses: OL/DL Jake Johnston, RB/LB Ahmad McClain, OL/LB Matt Parish, RB/LB Jaden Swift, OL/DL Jeremiah Gayle, WR/DB Cameron Giles, WR/LB Ogaga Ezekiel, OL/LB Troy Lambert, WR/DB Daraon Moore

Notable Returnees:  QB/DB Joe Marshall (Sr.), WR/DB Tayshawn White (Sr.), OL/DL Eddie Smith (Jr.), RB/DB Joe Berry (Jr.)

Outlook: A slight improvement last year saw the Falcons net two conference wins, but gone is a very large senior class and most of the team’s all-conference selections with it. The positive is that Joe Marshall returns for his third year at QB, and he’ll have 1st-team all-conference wideout Tayshawn White to throw to. The bad news…likely low numbers and needing to replace most of the lines on both sides of the ball. Two wins likely remains their ceiling, depending on the crossover matchup.

Cudahy

2018 Record: 4-6 (4-4)

Notable Losses: TE/DB Austin Eichstaedt, OL/LB Mason Heath, WR/DB Cameron Krueger, RB/LB Jacob Blochowicz, WR/DB Juan Cerda-Bautista, RB/LB Hunter Grisham-Roberts

Notable Returnees: QB/ DB Bryce Barbian (Jr.), OL/DL Kyler Palmatier (Sr.), RB/LB Evan Haugen (Sr.), OL/DL Joe Baughman (Jr.), WR/DB Emmitt Hawkins (Jr.)

Outlook: Following a winless 2017, Cudahy was able to sneak into the playoffs in 2018, thanks to receiving a forfeit win from Milwaukee Lutheran. The Packers were shellacked by IKE in the first round, but that sniff of the playoffs could be a boost to a program that’s really needed it. They do lose some big pieces to graduation but do return experience at QB and a 1,000-yard rusher as well as two all-conference linemen. Good numbers in the 2020 and 2021 classes bode well. The East, as always is a relatively open race, can the Packers make some noise?

Greenfield

2018 Record: 3-6 (3-5)

Notable Losses: WR Elijah Rosario, OL Ahmad Assad, OL Matt Abramczyk

Notable Returnees: QB Omarion Bartlett (Sr.), WR Joel Santa Maria (Jr.), RB/DB Alex Boyko (Jr.), ATH Chris Lopez (Sr.), DL Jalonnie Williams (Jr.), LB Matt Fischer (Jr.), RB/LB Skylar Gill-Howard (Jr.), DB Brody Spiekerman (Sr.), OL Trevor Gray (So.)

Outlook: The Hawks figure to be the odds-on favorite for the East with the return of a large quantity of contributors from last year, a season derailed by inconsistent play and an injury to all-everything QB Omarion Bartlett. With no real backup in place, Greenfield struggled offensively until he returned but by then it was too late. With Bartlett back and healthy and nearly all of his weapons returning, Greenfield figures to be an offensive juggernaut once again. The question, as always with them it seems, remains, can they clean up the penalties and avoid the lapses that have plagued this program in the post-Koch years? The answer, if yes, probably means a division title.

Milwaukee Lutheran

2018 Record: 2-7 (2-6)

Notable Losses: RB/LB Ken Daniel Jr., RB/DB John Jones, LB Ruben Richardson, TE/LB Darrell Bolden, OL/LB Ja’Quavious Richardson, WR/DB Noel Williams

Notable Returnees: RB/LB Kenneth Payne (Jr.), QB Romell Reliford (Sr.), DB Elijah Story (Sr.), OL/DL Ray Woolridge (Sr.), WR/DB Demetrius Brown (Sr.), RB/DB Jamirus Collins (Sr.)

Outlook: The Red Knights appeared on their way to an East Division championship a year ago following a wild 50-46 win over Greenfield, but word soon came out that ML had used an ineligible player in the first four games of the season and had to forfeit several games. Couple this with the loss of RB Kenneth Payne from the lineup for the last few games and Milwaukee Lutheran fell out of contention. They should be right in the thick of things again, but must shore up the defense if they want to actually go places. Offense shouldn’t be an issue, provided all hands are back on deck.

Shorewood/Messmer

2018 Record: 7-3 (6-2)

Notable Losses: QB Aaron Eimers, RB/DB Zoe McDowell, WR/DB Delroy Perrin, OL/LB Robert Joehnk, OL/DL Jeff Carson, OL/DL Jeremiah Boyle, OL/DL Isaiah Conteh, OL/DL Isaiah Thompson, TE/LB Anthony Acevedo, RB/DB Jerriaute Hardin

Notable Returnees: WR/DB Sam Campbell (Sr.), OL/DL Ilijah Jordan-Taylor (Jr.)

Outlook: The level of consistency this program has gotten to is remarkable and they were rewarded with a division title a year ago. This year, however, will be a test of that consistency as a large and decorated senior class moves on, with seemingly little in the pipeline. With just 12 combined sophomores and juniors in the program last year, it’s likely the co-op turns to a large 2022 class to fill in the gaps. You have to figure there will be a learning curve, and at this point, one can only surmise 2019 will be a struggle for the Grey Bishops.

South Milwaukee

2018 Record: 5-5 (5-3)

Notable Losses: OL/DL Ty Spaltholz, RB/DB Jake Wysocki, RB/LB Jake Nelson, WR/DB Zach Paczocha, OL/LB Chris Hoffman, OL/LB Joe Lubetski

Notable Returnees: WR/LB Emmitt Lentz (Sr.), QB Tarek Slusar (Sr.), RB/LB Dan Klemstein (Sr.), TE/LB/P Luis Ortiz (Sr.), WR/LB A.J. Slusar (Sr.), WR/LB Calvin Kluz (Sr.)

Outlook: South Milwaukee continues to exist in that middle cream of the Woodland-East, though they did rise to the top of that middle last year. I think the bar for them in 2019 is likely set there as well. Can they raise it? Well, they have a decent amount of talent returning and good class balance across the board meaning they shouldn’t struggle for depth. The Rockets do need to replace three OL who garnered some form of all-conference recognition, including two-way first-teamer Ty Spaltholz, however. If that happens, could be a banner year in Rocketland.

Whitnall

2018 Record: 3-6 (3-5)

Notable Losses: K Sam Thut, P Ianm Davies, QB/DB David Haun

Notable Returnees: OL/DL Anthony Vacula (Sr.), RB/DB Nate Valcarcel (Sr.), RB/LB Isaiah Cornejo (Sr.), OL/DL Rafael Vazquez (Sr.), OL/DL Travis Seidler (Sr.), RB/LB Aidan Galindo (Sr.), WR/DB Ryan Kendziorski (Jr.)

Outlook:  Whitnall’s large senior class will be looking to make a run at the top, and it’s certainly possible that they could do it. Offensively, they will need to settle on a QB, but everything else is in place for a good year. Defensively, things are really no different. The Falcons were really only hit hard by graduation at the specialist positions, so those will have to be filled, but with Valcarcel toting the rock behind a big OL, expect good things from the Hales Corners contingent this year.

Prognostication:

With last year’s champ likely to fall way off, the division remains as open as it ever has been. Greenfield, Whitnall and SM all return the most key cogs, so that gives them the nod, with Greenfield taking top spot based on Bartlett’s playmaking ability. I’m just not sure what to make of ML this year. I don’t see them falling below fourth, but I’m not sold on them having the horses (especially defensively) to win the East either. Cudahy bumps up and could threaten the top four, though I think their ceiling is probably around the third spot. Really curious to see the fall-off for Shorewood/Messmer, I hesitated even putting them sixth, but they have shown more program stability than BD recently.

1. Greenfield
2. Whitnall
3. South Milwaukee
4. Milwaukee Lutheran
5. Cudahy
6. Shorewood/Messmer
7. Brown Deer


The West still to come...

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Woodland-West:

Greendale

2018 Record: 10-2 (7-1)

Notable Losses: OL/DL Josh Dymond, WR/DB JR Muth, OL Josh Dooley, WR/LB Masaeo Wooden, DL Noah Radka, QB/LB/P Sean Sanchez, RB/WR Paul Toetz, WR Andrew Vey, OL/DL Ben Francel

Notable Returnees: OL/DL/LB Brett Shumway (Jr.), OL/DL Zach Hamilton (Jr.), OL/DL Evan Taft (Jr.), TE/LB Dylan Schuster (Sr.), QB/DB Will Brust (Jr.), WR/DB Jeff Paul (Sr.), RB/WR/DB Sammy Muth (Sr.), WR/RB/DB Joe Toetz (Jr.)

Outlook: The Panthers got back to Level 3 a year ago (their only two losses were to IKE), but are now facing the challenge of replacing several key pieces of their offense. The plus side to that is they have three linemen back who garnered some form of post-season recognition and replacing skill players has always been a Greendale strongsuit. Will Brust is likely to slide in at QB, while Muth and Toetz you figure will replace their graduated relatives. Defensively, Greendale takes a hit as well, and that is where the recent question marks have been. They were pretty solid a year ago, but can they replace the likes of Radka and Wooden? The Panthers will be in that fight for first though, you can count on that.

New Berlin Eisenhower

2018 Record: 12-1 (8-0)

Notable Losses: OL/DL/P Mark Shields, RB/LB Jack Himmelspach, WR/DB Jake Schara, OL/DL Davy Counsell, PK Evan Lalor, OL/DL Matt McNerney, WR/LB Jimmy Arcuri, TE/LB Nate Clark, WR/DB Sam Tausz

Notable Returnees: OL/DL Isaac Freichels (Sr.), QB Gabe Seifert (Jr.), RB/LB Eli Hoelke (Sr.), WR/DB Max Lewis (Sr.), RB/LB Jack Osielski (Sr.), TE/LB Ben Buechel (Sr.), RB/LB Colton Filipowicz (Sr.)

Outlook: Another deep playoff run ended with a second-half thud against a CMH team looking for revenge and so ended the careers of both Mark Shields and Jack Himmelspach. You can’t replace either of them, but IKE will do their best. IKE seems to be back in their old groove after about a five-year bumpy stretch, churning out conference champ after conference champ. Will this year be any different? I don’t think so, though someone will have to step into the playmaker role on each side of the ball. More than once Shields and/or Himmelspach were the difference in a big game. I’m not sure if they have anyone close to that level. Will be interesting to watch it unfold, could be the difference between top of the mountain or not.

New Berlin West

2018 Record: 7-3 (6-2)

Notable Losses: WR Tyler Stoltenberg, RB/LB Sam Meleski, LB Nick Paget, QB Trace Ferreira       

Notable Returnees: RB/LB Adam Siegel (Sr.), OL/DL Donoven Acevedo (Sr.), OL/DL Joey DiMotto (Sr.), OL/DL Paul Nennig (Jr.), QB/WR/DB Jake Wieneke (Sr.), TE/DB Mike Paget (Jr.)

Outlook: The Vikings qualified for the playoffs last year, but lost late against East Troy in Level 1. Gone are a few playmakers and their best defensive player, but what NBW should have coming back will give them a pretty good chance to do a little Woodland-West damage. Good size (and now experience) on the O-Line and a near-1,000 yard rusher in Adam Siegel anchors the offense while a couple of all-conference choices return defensively. The Vikings get Greendale, IKE and Pewaukee in Weeks 2, 4 and 5; so once again, their destiny may be set by mid-year. West should be a playoff team again, but not sure if they have a run in them.

Pewaukee

2018 Record: 7-4 (5-3)

Notable Losses: OL/DL David Bell, OL/DL Abel Savage, RB/LB Masen Beatty, WR/DB Weston Katula, RB/LB Josh Geisel, OL/DL Josh Keskinen, WR/DB/P Owen Krumenacher

Notable Returnees: OL/DL Jacob Kuglitsch (Jr.), TE/DL T.J. Chadwick (Sr.), OL/DL Fred Crawford (Sr.), RB/DB Elliot Mueller (Sr.), RB/LB Luke Leveille (Sr.), RB/DB Justus Zemberi (Sr.), QB Brady Solomon (Sr.)

Outlook: After a 1-3 start (and nearly 0-4), the Pirates righted the ship, ripping off six straight wins, including a Level 1 upset over undefeated McFarland, before the wind was knocked out of their sails by Mount Horeb/Barneveld in Level 2. Given the schedule and the holes that needed to be filled in the lineup, the start wasn’t unexpected. This year, the expectation may be a little different with a little bit more returning. Still, the Pirates are lacking that big name they’ve historically had, so I’m kind of figuring they finish with a similar record to last year.

Pius XI

2018 Record: 0-9 (0-7)

Notable Losses: TE/DE Jamontte Brown, RB/LB Arcazius Lawrence

Notable Returnees: QB Jaylen Hill (Sr.), WR/DB Dasani Garner (Sr.), WR/QB/DB Gabe Zielinski (Jr.)

Outlook: Despite having just three returning seniors, the Popes should be in line for a better season…provided some of that younger experience stays out for football. Pius didn’t lose much in the way of accolades, but will have to replace a couple of multi-year starters. Not a whole lot to say really, they’ll have one or two shots at a W and the rest will be running clock territory.

West Allis Central

2018 Record: 1-8 (1-7)

Notable Losses: DL Tim Seymour, TE/DL Vincent Conroy-Munoz, RB/DB Darius Grice, QB Riley Whitted, OL/DL Gunther Johnson, OL/DL Brandon Niedo, RB/DB Savon Norrington

Notable Returnees: QB Joey Tanzilo (Jr.), RB/LB Brent Renfro (Sr.)

Outlook: Another new coach for the Bulldogs, and Cory Thompson has his work cut out for him. WAC graduated 20+ seniors who made up the bulk of the starters and now turn to a small 2020 class and nearly non-existent 2021 class to try and fill the void. If I had to hazard a guess, the Bulldogs will be fielding a very sophomore-heavy lineup this season. That doesn’t bode well for success at the big school level.

Wisconsin Lutheran

2018 Record: 4-6 (4-4)

Notable Losses: RB/DB Jacqueze Lockett, OL/DL Sam Gerhard, TE/LB David Frey, QB Collin Olson, WR Noah Bilitz, WR Carter Raabe, OL/DL Isaiah Hahm, OL/DL Alex Verduzco, RB/DB Jaiden Sylvester, DE Jalin Jackson

Notable Returnees: WR/DB Caleb Bilitz (Sr.), RB/LB Adler Henn (Sr.), LB Cameron Campbell (Sr.)

Outlook: WISCO returned to the playoffs in 2018, but fell just short in a Level 1 thriller against Greendale, 42-37. The Vikings now find themselves in the same boat as WAC in that they have to replace a large senior class which occupied most of the starting spots with much smaller classes. WISCO should be in a better position to compete, but the reality of the post-DeNoyer Era means that they will likely only beat the teams they should and spend the rest of the schedule avoiding running clocks.

Prognostication:

Sticking with IKE to take the league. They are on a roll and Greendale has to replace quite a few important players on the defensive side of the ball. Pewaukee and NBW are pretty similar and they could easily flip-flop. WISCO will be down, but not down enough for either Pius or WAC to pass them. The top of the league will be intriguing, the bottom not so much. Gonna be lots of lopsided scores again.

1. New Berlin Eisenhower
2. Greendale
3. Pewaukee
4. New Berlin West
5. Wisconsin Lutheran
6. Pius XI
7. West Allis Central

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Couple thoughts on the East (besides the inevitable "Man, these schools sure wish it was still 1980...")

The SM-Cudahy game in Week 3 is shaping up to be a fun one. I've heard that these junior and senior classes have played a number of close games as freshmen and JV, and it should be an exciting contest that helps determine the middle of the pecking order in the East.

South Milwaukee opens with Racine Park and should be heavily favored to beat the Panthers. That's kind of amazing, given I'm pretty sure the Rockets went their entire stay in the "classic" Southeast alignment (1998-2009?) without ever beating Park. Says a lot about shifting demographics.

I'm not buying what Greenfield is selling. Bartlett might be the best college prospect of the conference QBs, but I think that both Slusar and Barbian will be more effective players in the context of their teams.

This "division" is WIDE OPEN. Sure, these schools may not make much noise come playoff time and will likely go 2-5 at best in the conference crossovers, but nearly every team here can feel they have a legit shot in the race for the divisional title. 

Personally, my dark horses are Whitnall and Cudahy. If the Falcons' talent lends itself to ground-and-pound like DB says, those guys aren't averse to doing it, which could lead to good things. Over by Sheridan Park, meanwhile, Barbian has been starting since his freshman year and they can run the ball as well... if Cudahy can figure out how to play some D, they have a shot.

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Couple thoughts on the East (besides the inevitable "Man, these schools sure wish it was still 1980...")

The SM-Cudahy game in Week 3 is shaping up to be a fun one. I've heard that these junior and senior classes have played a number of close games as freshmen and JV, and it should be an exciting contest that helps determine the middle of the pecking order in the East.

South Milwaukee opens with Racine Park and should be heavily favored to beat the Panthers. That's kind of amazing, given I'm pretty sure the Rockets went their entire stay in the "classic" Southeast alignment (1998-2009?) without ever beating Park. Says a lot about shifting demographics.

I'm not buying what Greenfield is selling. Bartlett might be the best college prospect of the conference QBs, but I think that both Slusar and Barbian will be more effective players in the context of their teams.

This "division" is WIDE OPEN. Sure, these schools may not make much noise come playoff time and will likely go 2-5 at best in the conference crossovers, but nearly every team here can feel they have a legit shot in the race for the divisional title. 

Personally, my dark horses are Whitnall and Cudahy. If the Falcons' talent lends itself to ground-and-pound like DB says, those guys aren't averse to doing it, which could lead to good things. Over by Sheridan Park, meanwhile, Barbian has been starting since his freshman year and they can run the ball as well... if Cudahy can figure out how to play some D, they have a shot.

I wouldn’t say SM is the “heavy” favorite over RP. I actually think it’s going to be a good game. I’m actually thinking about going to that game. I forget if it’s in Racine or Milwaukee though. People are really underestimating RP because they’ve been bad for so long but now they’ve got the talent to be good again. It’s just a matter of if the talent can produce. This is going to be a fantastic game to open the season.
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I wouldn’t say SM is the “heavy” favorite over RP. I actually think it’s going to be a good game. I’m actually thinking about going to that game. I forget if it’s in Racine or Milwaukee though. People are really underestimating RP because they’ve been bad for so long but now they’ve got the talent to be good again. It’s just a matter of if the talent can produce. This is going to be a fantastic game to open the season.
I'm okay if it turns out I'm underestimating Park, and if they prove me wrong more power to them. I watched them in the playoffs with Moss and Dawkins and I coached against them when John Clay was a man-sized sophomore; those were good days for football.

I do believe, however, that based on what the Rockets have returning and the presence of a head coach who has a long track record of getting the most out of his talent, SM is a heavy favorite against a team that's been mired in a historic slump. It's nothing against Park, it's just playing the odds.
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I'm okay if it turns out I'm underestimating Park, and if they prove me wrong more power to them. I watched them in the playoffs with Moss and Dawkins and I coached against them when John Clay was a man-sized sophomore; those were good days for football.

I do believe, however, that based on what the Rockets have returning and the presence of a head coach who has a long track record of getting the most out of his talent, SM is a heavy favorite against a team that's been mired in a historic slump. It's nothing against Park, it's just playing the odds.
I can understand where you’re coming from. Let’s not forget Park only lost 1 Letterwinner last year and have almost everyone back and have guys who can fill in the roles they lost. They have a Senior Leader on both sides of the ball and have arguably one of the most solid Defenses in the SEC this fall. That is saying a lot about a team that hasn’t had much of an identity for the last decade. They have the talent to be a playoff team in D2 it’s just a question of can that talent actually put the pieces together and actually do it. SM will definitely be a test. If they can beat SM, then Union Grove shouldn’t be a problem. Weeks 1 & 3 are key to Park’s Season. If they are 3-0 going into Week 4(unlikely but I’m playing what if’s) this is gonna be a hell of a season. Week 4 is gonna be interesting considering Franklin having a brutal non conference schedule and with them losing a ton. Week 5 vs Tremper should be a winnable game for Park if they’re playing well this season. Oak Creek should be a fun test as well. OC always has solid teams and always gives you a tough game most years. Horlick, Case and Bradford are all winnable if the panthers can show up at their best. That’s not a bad record if you ask me.
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East

1. Greenfield
2. South Milwaukee
3. Whitnall
4. Milwaukee Lutheran
5. Shorewood/Messmer
6. Cudahy
7. Brown Deer

The East for the most part is an hypothesis that needs to be tested. Greenfield should be the favorites if they remain healthy for the entire season. I gave the slight nod to South Milwaukee over Whitnall for second in the division at this time....Whitnall still has to prove as much to me as South Milwaukee has to. Lutheran will continue to pile on the points this year but if the D steps up, they could be a dark horse. I am giving Messwood the benefit of the doubt by bumping them up a spot. Cudahy has the possibility to move upward but they are still an unknown to me at this time. Brown Deer has issues surrounding the program as a whole and it does not appear to be ending anytime soon.

Playoff Bids: Greenfield, South Milwaukee, Whitnall
On the Bubble: Milwaukee Lutheran

West

1. New Berlin Eisenhower
2. Greendale
3. Pewaukee
4. New Berlin West
5. Wisconsin Lutheran
6. West Allis Central
7. Pius XI

Oh the West will be a meatgrinder as always. I will also take Eisenhower as the favorite. Greendale should be a factor in the race but how they recover from lost production due to graduation will be key for the Panthers. I give Pewaukee the slight edge over West due to program consistency but I would be stunned if West finished above them. Dare I say Wisco could miss the postseason for the second time in three years? It could happen and all before their fellow D3 nemesis CMH joins the Woodland. I give WAC the slight nod to avoid the basement in their final year in the league before being banished back to the Greater Metro. Pius should be better than last year but they have to prove that they will be avoid the basement this season.

Playoff Bids: Eisenhower, Greendale, Pewaukee, New Berlin West
On the Bubble: Wisco
Times that the West goes Ora-Ora! against the East: I'll take the WRYYYY amount.

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How....The.....Heck......Did.....I.....Not SEE THIS PRIMER?!?!?

East

1. Greenfield
2. South Milwaukee
3. Whitnall
4. Milwaukee Lutheran
5. Shorewood/Messmer
6. Cudahy
7. Brown Deer

The East for the most part is an hypothesis that needs to be tested. Greenfield should be the favorites if they remain healthy for the entire season. I gave the slight nod to South Milwaukee over Whitnall for second in the division at this time....Whitnall still has to prove as much to me as South Milwaukee has to. Lutheran will continue to pile on the points this year but if the D steps up, they could be a dark horse. I am giving Messwood the benefit of the doubt by bumping them up a spot. Cudahy has the possibility to move upward but they are still an unknown to me at this time. Brown Deer has issues surrounding the program as a whole and it does not appear to be ending anytime soon.

Playoff Bids: Greenfield, South Milwaukee, Whitnall
On the Bubble: Milwaukee Lutheran

West

1. New Berlin Eisenhower
2. Greendale
3. Pewaukee
4. New Berlin West
5. Wisconsin Lutheran
6. West Allis Central
7. Pius XI

Oh the West will be a meatgrinder as always. I will also take Eisenhower as the favorite. Greendale should be a factor in the race but how they recover from lost production due to graduation will be key for the Panthers. I give Pewaukee the slight edge over West due to program consistency but I would be stunned if West finished above them. Dare I say Wisco could miss the postseason for the second time in three years? It could happen and all before their fellow D3 nemesis CMH joins the Woodland. I give WAC the slight nod to avoid the basement in their final year in the league before being banished back to the Greater Metro. Pius should be better than last year but they have to prove that they will be avoid the basement this season.

Playoff Bids: Eisenhower, Greendale, Pewaukee, New Berlin West
On the Bubble: Wisco
Times that the West goes Ora-Ora! against the East: I'll take the WRYYYY amount.

And now for me to......


It did kinda get buried.

I think WISCO, WAC and Pius will all struggle. WISCO will have their way with the other two, but I wouldn't be surprised if they struggled in all other games (even the crossover with Whitnall). I think it hurts WAC to get both WISCO and Pius early before they've any chance to establish their young lineup. But hey, maybe one of those games turns into an unexpected confidence boost. I can only hope.

Couple thoughts on the East (besides the inevitable "Man, these schools sure wish it was still 1980...")

The SM-Cudahy game in Week 3 is shaping up to be a fun one. I've heard that these junior and senior classes have played a number of close games as freshmen and JV, and it should be an exciting contest that helps determine the middle of the pecking order in the East.

South Milwaukee opens with Racine Park and should be heavily favored to beat the Panthers. That's kind of amazing, given I'm pretty sure the Rockets went their entire stay in the "classic" Southeast alignment (1998-2009?) without ever beating Park. Says a lot about shifting demographics.

I'm not buying what Greenfield is selling. Bartlett might be the best college prospect of the conference QBs, but I think that both Slusar and Barbian will be more effective players in the context of their teams.

This "division" is WIDE OPEN. Sure, these schools may not make much noise come playoff time and will likely go 2-5 at best in the conference crossovers, but nearly every team here can feel they have a legit shot in the race for the divisional title. 

Personally, my dark horses are Whitnall and Cudahy. If the Falcons' talent lends itself to ground-and-pound like DB says, those guys aren't averse to doing it, which could lead to good things. Over by Sheridan Park, meanwhile, Barbian has been starting since his freshman year and they can run the ball as well... if Cudahy can figure out how to play some D, they have a shot.


The East really could go any which way. Cudahy could be a factor yet as well but I'm not particularly comfortable with that notion until we start seeing good football on both sides of the ball in Packer-land (hey, that goes for the professional Packers as well...lol). I really think Shorewood/Messmer is gonna be in for a struggle this year though. They lost everything. Their one saving grace is being in the East.

Trust me, I know what you mean with Greenfield. Nothing about their post-Koch history suggests they won't underachieve, and while replacing Rosario won't be easy, they did have a lot of key players get experience a year ago. As you alluded to though, talent is one thing, but how does the team fare as a whole? Can they shake the stigma of being undisciplined and finding ways to lose very winnable games?

Muskego left for different reasons, but it is somewhat amusing to look at South Milwaukee and Burlington and compare them to the bottom half of the Southeast nowadays. Also, some of those enrollment concerns that caused the smaller schools to want out have dissipated with Racine bleeding students (Park would likely be D2 today...I believe they were near 2000 when Clay was there) and the addition of a third Kenosha school. Some people dislike the new football-only conferences and lost "rivalries" and the like, but things have become so fluid these days in reagrds to enrollment and other factors, that the WIAA can't afford to not be flexible, lest some schools larger than 200 students start entertaining the notion of reduced-player football or dropping the sport altogether.

The Woodland-East doesn't conjure up a lot of respect, but no one can ever say it isn't an entertaining league...at least, unlike most, it feels like more than two teams are legit conference title contenders.
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Muskego left for different reasons, but it is somewhat amusing to look at South Milwaukee and Burlington and compare them to the bottom half of the Southeast nowadays. Also, some of those enrollment concerns that caused the smaller schools to want out have dissipated with Racine bleeding students (Park would likely be D2 today...I believe they were near 2000 when Clay was there) and the addition of a third Kenosha school.
Yes. Back then, Park was close to 2,000 and both Tremper and Bradford were well over that number. I’ll say this for those days of that SEC murderers’ row, though—much like today’s Classic 8, if you earned a playoff berth in that league you came into “The Tournament” (as Bill Parcells might say) battle tested.

I suspect that if that configuration were still status quo today, the current SM and Burlington squads would be duking it out with KIT for a 5-4 finish behind Muskego, Franklin, OC and Horlick and a decent subsequent playoff run instead of a Top 3 conference finish and a Level 1 exit vs Waterford.
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Yes. Back then, Park was close to 2,000 and both Tremper and Bradford were well over that number. I’ll say this for those days of that SEC murderers’ row, though—much like today’s Classic 8, if you earned a playoff berth in that league you came into “The Tournament” (as Bill Parcells might say) battle tested.

I suspect that if that configuration were still status quo today, the current SM and Burlington squads would be duking it out with KIT for a 5-4 finish behind Muskego, Franklin, OC and Horlick and a decent subsequent playoff run instead of a Top 3 conference finish and a Level 1 exit vs Waterford.


Funny how that is.

Unfortunately, we're in the days of where just being competitive and notching playoff berths is the fuel needed to keep a program viable. Any drop from that and suddenly the hole becomes much larger to climb out of.

I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing at the end of the day (the good ol' days don't last forever), but I don't know if there's any way to change it either.

Such are the times.
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Milwaukee Lutheran

2018 Record: 2-7 (2-6)

Notable Losses: RB/LB Ken Daniel Jr., RB/DB John Jones, LB Ruben Richardson, TE/LB Darrell Bolden, OL/LB Ja’Quavious Richardson, WR/DB Noel Williams

Notable Returnees: RB/LB Kenneth Payne (Jr.), QB Romell Reliford (Sr.), DB Elijah Story (Sr.), OL/DL Ray Woolridge (Sr.), WR/DB Demetrius Brown (Sr.), RB/DB Jamirus Collins (Sr.)

Outlook: The Red Knights appeared on their way to an East Division championship a year ago following a wild 50-46 win over Greenfield, but word soon came out that ML had used an ineligible player in the first four games of the season and had to forfeit several games. Couple this with the loss of RB Kenneth Payne from the lineup for the last few games and Milwaukee Lutheran fell out of contention. They should be right in the thick of things again, but must shore up the defense if they want to actually go places. Offense shouldn’t be an issue, provided all hands are back on deck.

Prognostication:

With last year’s champ likely to fall way off, the division remains as open as it ever has been. Greenfield, Whitnall and SM all return the most key cogs, so that gives them the nod, with Greenfield taking top spot based on Bartlett’s playmaking ability. I’m just not sure what to make of ML this year. I don’t see them falling below fourth, but I’m not sold on them having the horses (especially defensively) to win the East either. Cudahy bumps up and could threaten the top four, though I think their ceiling is probably around the third spot. Really curious to see the fall-off for Shorewood/Messmer, I hesitated even putting them sixth, but they have shown more program stability than BD recently.

1. Greenfield
2. Whitnall
3. South Milwaukee
4. Milwaukee Lutheran
5. Cudahy
6. Shorewood/Messmer
7. Brown Deer


The West still to come...



A comment on Travis's East preview stated that Payne was kicked out of ML last year (explaining his absence the last few weeks) and is now possibly at Vincent (which would be a boon for the Vikings if his affairs are in order).

This news solidifies my pick of ML as the #4 team/possible playoff qualifier.

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I talked with a coach at a conference school this week who really likes what Cudahy has going, but isn’t sold yet on their defense. Their scrimmage against Racine Park might be an interesting one to watch for Woodland fans. How they handle the presumed speed of the Panthers will have the possibility to tell a few things about how they’ll match up with Greenfield and Lutheran.

Similarly, SM’s first game against Mr. Gardner’s Panthers carries the potential for the same sort of tells. The Rockets will score, but their defense is the big question mark.
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I talked with a coach at a conference school this week who really likes what Cudahy has going, but isn’t sold yet on their defense. Their scrimmage against Racine Park might be an interesting one to watch for Woodland fans. How they handle the presumed speed of the Panthers will have the possibility to tell a few things about how they’ll match up with Greenfield and Lutheran.

Similarly, SM’s first game against Mr. Gardner’s Panthers carries the potential for the same sort of tells. The Rockets will score, but their defense is the big question mark.
I’ll be at the SM game and I’ll be keeping tabs on the score. To put it bluntly Park has one of the fastest teams in the SEC. This isn’t your average spread offense. This isn’t the Park of old times that would pound the ball on the ground 50 times a game and wear you down with physicality. This is more of a hybrid offense that if pulled off properly with the right talent(which I think they do this year) can be one of the most dangerous in the state. And unlike Cudahy and SM it’s a well known fact that Park can defend and kill you on that end if you’re not careful. Lazy passes will be picked off and they know how to defend the Run. Watching practice the last few days, Park has some big linemen this season on both sides. We all know Thomas, but he’s not the only panther lineman to bulk up in the weight room. They have a ton of size on the line for the first time in a long time. Park might be our SEC dark horse this fall everyone and if like predictions are making us believe and they fall D2, This could be a team that could pull a scalp or two given the right circumstances. 
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I’ll be at the SM game and I’ll be keeping tabs on the score. To put it bluntly Park has one of the fastest teams in the SEC. This isn’t your average spread offense. This isn’t the Park of old times that would pound the ball on the ground 50 times a game and wear you down with physicality. This is more of a hybrid offense that if pulled off properly with the right talent(which I think they do this year) can be one of the most dangerous in the state. And unlike Cudahy and SM it’s a well known fact that Park can defend and kill you on that end if you’re not careful. Lazy passes will be picked off and they know how to defend the Run. Watching practice the last few days, Park has some big linemen this season on both sides. We all know Thomas, but he’s not the only panther lineman to bulk up in the weight room. They have a ton of size on the line for the first time in a long time. Park might be our SEC dark horse this fall everyone and if like predictions are making us believe and they fall D2, This could be a team that could pull a scalp or two given the right circumstances. 


Love the enthusiasm, but I am definitely taking the baby-steps approach with Park. If they can limit the beatdowns vs. top-level teams and be competitive with some of the lower teams (and maybe take a few Ws in the process) I would consider that a very successful season, and one that sets the groundwork for better things down the line.

Step 1 is getting back to competence. The Park fall from grace (which really started during Clay's senior season when he got hurt and they slid out of the playoffs if you think about it) under Thompson was one of the sadder underlying stories in HS football in SE WI the past decade. It hasn't really been due to lack of numbers, athleticism or speed either, but many of the other factors that have befallen blue-collar and socio-economically disadvantaged programs over the last 10-15 years. Happy to hear that some cohesiveness is back in the program and kids are committed and believing again. If that continues, it will pay dividends if not this year, but down the line for sure. To what extent though, I'm just not sure.
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db11 wrote:


Love the enthusiasm, but I am definitely taking the baby-steps approach with Park. If they can limit the beatdowns vs. top-level teams and be competitive with some of the lower teams (and maybe take a few Ws in the process) I would consider that a very successful season, and one that sets the groundwork for better things down the line.

Step 1 is getting back to competence. The Park fall from grace (which really started during Clay's senior season when he got hurt and they slid out of the playoffs if you think about it) under Thompson was one of the sadder underlying stories in HS football in SE WI the past decade. It hasn't really been due to lack of numbers, athleticism or speed either, but many of the other factors that have befallen blue-collar and socio-economically disadvantaged programs over the last 10-15 years. Happy to hear that some cohesiveness is back in the program and kids are committed and believing again. If that continues, it will pay dividends if not this year, but down the line for sure. To what extent though, I'm just not sure.
I can’t fault you for that type of reaction. I can provide some insight into the atmosphere at the beginning of the fall from grace though as I was a student there from the 11-12 school year to 14-15. The general problem was that Thompson was falling heavily out of favor by the kids in the school and kids just didn’t want to play for him as a coach. As a teacher he was great but as a coach he never really recovered and hence why he stepped down and retired essentially. Although he was an assistant during the transition between coaches which I think was a cool move by him as a sort of passing the torch type deal. Park has a great coach in Hernandez and he’s really done wonders to the program. He’s got the school population excited about football again, he’s got kids wanting to work out in the weight room and just overall has changed the atmosphere of the program. I think Hernandez will bring Park back to glory, when that will happen remains to be seen but we’re about 5 years out on their 20th anniversary of their last title win, and the last title came in the 17th anniversary of the 88’ teams title. I’m not saying they’re going to follow history and do the same again but they’re at least headed in the right direction. 
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