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Friday, 10/25

South Milwaukee at Waterford
Pewaukee at Whitnall
Union Grove at New Berlin Eisenhower
New Berlin West at Greendale
Wisconsin Lutheran at Plymouth
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South Milwaukee at Waterford - When SM struck quickly against NBW last week, I thought that it could be an interesting night...but very quickly the Vikings asserted themselves and didn't look back. Waterford is coming off an upset loss to Badger, but it's not enough to derail them here....Waterford walks away with a big win.

Pewaukee at Whitnall - If Valcarcel is out, this will be a tough win for Whitnall...even with Valcarcel in, it would not be a sure victory for the Falcons. 

Union Grove at New Berlin Eisenhower - Ike has to be nervous here....First, they didn't have a particularly strong outing against GF last Friday. Secondly, UG has the ability to win this straight up, having beaten Badger during the season. Ike should get the edge, but we have a potential 8 v 1 upset here, and that's how I'm picking this one.

New Berlin West at Greendale - It's tough to beat a good team twice, but that's what the panthers have to do to advance here. The Vikings look like a team that's arrived. Greendale had a less than stellar performance last week. Hopefully playing a stout opponent this past thursday helps get them ready to go here.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Plymouth - Wisco did what they had to do against Cudahy....but I don't think they'll have the speed/strength to put up much resistance here.
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South Milwaukee at Waterford - There are actually a few people in Rocketland who understand what a tall task this one is.  The hard truth is SM is simply not ready to slug it out with a physical SLC champ (and they won't be unless/until the Woodland changes it format)-- especially one that's closer to the Carey Venne tree than Cudahy themselves are these days. Waterford wins this one going away.

Pewaukee at Whitnall - If the star RB for Whitnall sits this out, I'll change my pick, but right now I have to assume the kid will play and lead his team to victory one more time. That sort of thing is what high school football is all about.

Union Grove at New Berlin Eisenhower - Make no mistake, I'll be happy when karma finally catches up with Eisenhower. I'd like to believe Joe's take here on Union Grove, but everything I know about Racine County football tells me the Broncos are not in the same class as even Ike's previously patchwork unit.

New Berlin West at Greendale - As mentioned above, it's always tough to beat the same team twice in one year. That's especially true when that team has improved and built momentum week over week in the intervening time period. Beating Greendale in Level 1 would be the sort of "program win" that West needs to take the next step, and I think they're ready. 

Wisconsin Lutheran at Plymouth - I know nothing about Plymouth; I don't even know if they deserve their seed. This pick is based purely on what I know about Wisco today. The big question right now is at what point do the higher-ups at the WELS decide that a better football team at their flagship high school is a priority? Let's be pragmatic; a championship football team really served their mission once upon a time, but they're growing in other places at the moment. You have to figure that eventually some up-and-comer will be "called" to revitalize things on Glenview Ave.
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melkamania
Where is the love for Ike Joe B????? They are the one seed again and have everyone back finally. Ike won't be nervous.
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db11
First, let me preface this with a shout-out to the Woodland powers-that-be for coming to the realization that quality, not quantity, is better for the league's playoff hopes and starting counting the crossover games several years ago.

Just two Woodland-East teams qualified, which honestly I think is very fair. Now only if MPS had followed that model.

The 2020 realignment can't come soon enough. Now just to mix up the divisions...

Also, since it doesn't fit anywhere else, I finally heard what was up with Bartlett at Greenfield this year. Apparently he was having thyroid issues that severely limited his usage.

Friday, 10/25


South Milwaukee at Waterford - Waterford has to be non-too-pleased to have had to share the SLC title, but such is familiarity with opponent scheme in a rough-and-tumble league. A rough-and-tumble league the Woodland-East is not. South Milwaukee rebounded well from an ignominious start, but now is staring at something unlike what they have seen all year.

Pewaukee at Whitnall - I'm basing this pick off the reports I've got that Valcarcel's injury "didn't look promising." It's too bad because after a very underwhelming Week 9 (season-long?) performance from Pewaukee, Whitnall could have been in line for a nice win here. As it stands this looks like it may be a low-scoring affair...maybe a defensive/special teams score tilts the balance?

Union Grove at New Berlin Eisenhower - IKE is back to something near what you would have expected roster-wise at the beginning of the year. They were a bit rusty last week if that result is any indication. They'd be wise to shake that off quickly, because while UG may appear rather ho-hum and unassuming, they do come from the physical SLC and aren't going to roll over for IKE. They also have pretty decent skill position players. The longer IKE allows them to hang around, the more dangerous the game becomes and it might be the Lions getting bit...

The Greendale vs. IKE banter is entertaining from the viewpoint of those without a dog in the fight, but it also just feels like I'm looking at two mirrors or something.

New Berlin West at Greendale - Obviously Week 2 is well in the rearview mirror, but it is hard to ignore what Greendale did in that game. Not so much the offensive output, but defensively holding the Vikings to just 3.2 yards a carry and Siegel to his lowest output of the year. If G'Dale can produce something similar to that defensive showing and avoid the costly turnovers that plagued them against Whitnall, I see no reason the Panthers shouldn't move onto Level 2.

Wisconsin Lutheran at Plymouth - This Plymouth team hasn't been touched in their conference all year (just two scores against them the last six weeks) and only has a last-minute loss to IKE in week 1 on their resume. That tells me they shouldn't have any issue with a Vikings team that to be quite frank, I thought overachieved a bit this year, returning I think just three total starters. Of course four of those wins coming over the East (a Valcarcel-less Whitnall and Cudahy) and WAC/Pius, but still they came through there and were unfortunate not to knock off NBW. I guess this is the new WISCO.
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melkamania wrote:
Where is the love for Ike Joe B????? They are the one seed again and have everyone back finally. Ike won't be nervous.
No dis on Ike...but as a *fan* of the panthers, I'd be nervous if Greendale was playing UG. First off, I have to wonder if the Broncos is one of those teams that start off slow but get better toward the back-half of the season; certainly their win against Badger indicates that they have some ability. (and quite frankly, badger handled GD, let's not kid ourselves) Secondly, I do consider Ike/GD/NBW/Pew to all be close in terms of ability, and believe that any could beat the other any given night...and this seemed to be bore out in the results during the course of the season, though Ike did play NBW/Pew shorthanded.

Basically it comes down to thinking that the skill gap from top to bottom of this bracket isn't as wide as it is some years. Based on strength of schedule, I probably would have had UG seeded over Wisco, but such is the fate of the lone Southern Lakes representative in the SE Woodland invitational tourney.

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Friday, 10/25

South Milwaukee at Waterford
Pewaukee at Whitnall: The question is will Pewaukee be able to generate enough offense to get the W. I think they get enough.
Union Grove at New Berlin Eisenhower
New Berlin West at Greendale
Wisconsin Lutheran at Plymouth
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South Milwaukee at Waterford
Pewaukee at Whitnall
Union Grove at New Berlin Eisenhower
New Berlin West at Greendale
Wisconsin Lutheran at Plymouth
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South Milwaukee at Waterford - SM was very disappointing last week. It won't get any better this week.

Pewaukee at Whitnall - I am taking Pewaukee but Whitnall could be inspired by a possible Tyler Herro appearance at the game tonight as the Heat Play the Bucks tomorrow.

Union Grove at New Berlin Eisenhower - Give me IKE. If at first you don't succeed, you're not Eli Hoelke. Eli provided a special dynamic last week in the win over Greenfield. IKE held Greenfield to 117 total yards. IKE will need to execute better going forward though. They haven't played a competitive team since mid September. Kern won't offer excuses for anything. They are used to the Woodland journey. I'm disappointed that CMH isn't in D-3, that would spice things up plenty.

Union Grove is a tough team to judge. They have played well down the stretch after several losses early and giving up a lot of points. Their win over Badger carried more weight after Badger knocked off Waterford. They have too many losses for me to make too much of the one nice win and the fact that it was Badger and not U.G. that did the heavy lifting over Waterford. The transitive property is dangerous. The Southern Lakes Conference is a much deeper conference than the Woodland,(with much fewer freebie games at the bottom)no doubt. But these teams occupy different places in their respective conferences.

But you may say, didn't U.G. beat the mighty Greenfield last year? Yes they did. And didn't they hold them to a measley .7 yards a carry? Yes they did. I still like IKE. How is GF justifying passing on playing a 10th game this year? Too good for that? Water, tailgates and fair catches. I've gone off track. Level 2 games in this bracket could be real interesting.

New Berlin West at Greendale - I will take Greendale. After last Thursday, it sure doesn't feel like Greendale is perceived as the big cheese of the Woodland by anybody. Prior to the game, I think that some of the most loyal Panther fans had hoped they were legit. Their head to head win against NBW gets them a home game though. It's also clear that West's win over IKE wasn't given full credit by those who attended the seeding meeting and that's why they are on the road tonight.

NBW is very committed to their offense. It's critical that they don't fall too far behind. They have come a long way under Chossek.I think their season ends tonight barring several turnovers from GD. They are good at what they do but probably not diverse enough and dominating enough. Wisco used to shove GD around and could win games convincingly without even thinking about the forward pass. I'm not sure that NBW can do the same. I think NBW is still looking for a signature win against a full team and in a playoff game.

We do have to wonder where GD is psychologically though. They are a 3 loss team. They can be run on. They don't have as many explosive plays as they used to. Badger ran on them. They eeked out a win against a limited Pewaukee squad. They had an empty second half against IKE. Whitnall ran on them. Tonight would not be upset city if NBW advanced. Do they believe that they can have a playoff run?

I heard the last few years from several people who root for GD that GD was the preseason Woodland favorite only to lose to IKE. It wasn't long ago that GD lost to IKE during the regular season and convincingly in the playoff game rematch. A lot of that hype was based on strong youth teams for GD. I heard the same thing in August of this year. I have heard it already for next year. I am told that IKE's numbers and success at the youth level have been really down in recent years but it hasn't translated to anything for Greendale yet. Graduation will take many starters away from IKE this year. The GD faithful have been clinging to wins from years ago. The table should be set for them with their logic. Wisco isn't a threat to do anything anymore.They snuck into the playoffs because they beat a shorthanded Whitnall team. Whitnall could be without their 2 way leader. CMH can't appear on the GD schedule this year.

The time is now. We will see how long they can extend their season. Will they go out with a bang or a whimper? They have been manhandled in recent years by Wilmot, Plymouth, and IKE. They lost to Bay. They have managed to dodge CMH in part because they have had quick exits. Do they play deep into November this year or hibernate early?


Wisconsin Lutheran at Plymouth - Plymouth wants another shot at Ike. 
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melkamania wrote:
I will take Greendale. After last Thursday, it sure doesn't feel like Greendale is perceived as the big cheese of the Woodland by anybody. Prior to the game, I think that some of the most loyal Panther fans had hoped they were legit. Their head to head win against NBW gets them a home game though. It's also clear that West's win over IKE wasn't given full credit by those who attended the seeding meeting and that's why they are on the road tonight.

NBW is very committed to their offense. It's critical that they don't fall too far behind. They have come a long way under Chossek.I think their season ends tonight barring several turnovers from GD. They are good at what they do but probably not diverse enough and dominating enough. Wisco used to shove GD around and could win games convincingly without even thinking about the forward pass. I'm not sure that NBW can do the same. I think NBW is still looking for a signature win against a full team and in a playoff game.

We do have to wonder where GD is psychologically though. They are a 3 loss team. They can be run on. They don't have as many explosive plays as they used to. Badger ran on them. They eeked out a win against a limited Pewaukee squad. They had an empty second half against IKE. Whitnall ran on them. Tonight would not be upset city if NBW advanced. Do they believe that they can have a playoff run?

I heard the last few years from several people who root for GD that GD was the preseason Woodland favorite only to lose to IKE. It wasn't long ago that GD lost to IKE during the regular season and convincingly in the playoff game rematch. A lot of that hype was based on strong youth teams for GD. I heard the same thing in August of this year. I have heard it already for next year. I am told that IKE's numbers and success at the youth level have been really down in recent years but it hasn't translated to anything for Greendale yet. Graduation will take many starters away from IKE this year. The GD faithful have been clinging to wins from years ago. The table should be set for them with their logic. Wisco isn't a threat to do anything anymore.They snuck into the playoffs because they beat a shorthanded Whitnall team. Whitnall could be without their 2 way leader. CMH can't appear on the GD schedule this year.

The time is now. We will see how long they can extend their season. Will they go out with a bang or a whimper? They have been manhandled in recent years by Wilmot, Plymouth, and IKE. They lost to Bay. They have managed to dodge CMH in part because they have had quick exits. Do they play deep into November this year or hibernate early?

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South Milwaukee at Waterford
Pewaukee at Whitnall
Union Grove at New Berlin Eisenhower
New Berlin West at Greendale
Wisconsin Lutheran at Plymouth
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melkamania wrote:

After last Thursday, it sure doesn't feel like Greendale is perceived as the big cheese of the Woodland by anybody. Prior to the game, I think that some of the most loyal Panther fans had hoped they were legit. 

I heard the last few years from several people who root for GD that GD was the preseason Woodland favorite only to lose to IKE in recent years.

The GD faithful have been clinging to wins from years ago. 



Who are these Greendale people you keep fabricating? Anyone with even a shred of knowledge of the program has said this year’s team is probably good for 5-6 wins. 

Nobody “perceives them as big cheese of the woodland”. And it’s been that way for several years now. 

“Hoped they were legit” - Good take. Fans hoping their team is good. You heard it here first, folks!

“Preseason woodland favorite” - Again, from who? This reeks worse than the Greenfield city line. 

I do look forward to your clickbait takes tho, melka. You’re the buzzfeed of the forum. 


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Waterford 38
South Milwaukee 0

As expected.

Pewaukee 44
Whitnall 24

No Valcarcel sinks the Falcons before they could even get going.

New Berlin Eisenhower 36
Union Grove 14

IKE shook off the rust and controlled this from the get-go.

New Berlin West 13
Greendale 7

They couldn't punch it in, but NBW with some serious ball control in the second half to knock off the Panthers.

Plymouth 35
Wisconsin Lutheran 34

WISCO gave Plymouth everything they could handle and even was up 12 at one point, but Plymouth made the plays late to win.
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This is the second year in a row where Wisco pulls out all the stops on offense but falls just short in a playoff game, after an underwhelming regular season. It leaves me wondering two things:

1. What are they holding back during the regular season? Why can’t they score like this on quality teams during the conference year? It has to be something about Wisco, not their opponents, as they clearly have the ability.

2. Defense seems to be their biggest drop off since their championship days. Their defenses then were just sick. Is this reflective of an overall drop in talent, coaching, or both?
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