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Next Monday at the winter meetings the results of the Veterans Committee's ballot will be announced. The Veterans Committee consists of Hall of Famers Jim Bunning, Rod Carew, Pat Gillick, Ferguson Jenkins, Al Kaline, Joe Morgan, Ozzie Smith and Don Sutton; baseball executives Jim Frey, David Glass, Roland Hemond and Bob Watson; and veteran media members Steve Hirdt, Dick Kaegel, Phil Pepe and Tracy Ringolsby. You need to get 12 votes to make the Hall of Fame. This is how Ron Santo was elected in 2011. This years 10 candidates are:

Dick Allen
Ken Boyer
Gil Hodges
Bob Howsam
Jim Kaat
Minnie Minoso
Tony Oliva
Billy Pierce
Luis Tiant
Maury Wills

Lots of really good candidates who are all right on the border line of being in the Hall of Fame. I would like to see these for guys get in this order:

1. Jim Kaat
2. Luis Tiant
3. Minnie Minoso
4. Gil Hodges

Hopefully someone gets in this year.
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yzerman1
The Veterans Committee elects no one to the Hall of Fame today. 12 votes are needed to get in, the vote totals were as follows:

Tony Oliva 11
Dick Allen 11
Jim Kaat 10
Muary Wills 9
Minnie Minosa 8

Everyone else got 3 or fewer votes.
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
yzerman1 wrote:
Next Monday at the winter meetings the results of the Veterans Committee's ballot will be announced. The Veterans Committee consists of Hall of Famers Jim Bunning, Rod Carew, Pat Gillick, Ferguson Jenkins, Al Kaline, Joe Morgan, Ozzie Smith and Don Sutton; baseball executives Jim Frey, David Glass, Roland Hemond and Bob Watson; and veteran media members Steve Hirdt, Dick Kaegel, Phil Pepe and Tracy Ringolsby. You need to get 12 votes to make the Hall of Fame. This is how Ron Santo was elected in 2011. This years 10 candidates are:

Dick Allen
Ken Boyer
Gil Hodges
Bob Howsam
Jim Kaat
Minnie Minoso
Tony Oliva
Billy Pierce
Luis Tiant
Maury Wills

Lots of really good candidates who are all right on the border line of being in the Hall of Fame. I would like to see these for guys get in this order:

1. Jim Kaat
2. Luis Tiant
3. Minnie Minoso
4. Gil Hodges

Hopefully someone gets in this year.


Jim Kaat
I don't see how a guy who won 283 games with a 3.45era over his career PLUS 16 Gold Gloves is 'on the border line'.
I honestly thought Kaat had finally gotten in(prior to this year).

But, I also don't understand why Dick Allen never got in 'legit'.
A lot of politics in the baseball HOF.
I only count 8 guys of the electors that played at the ML level for any amount of time.
Assume the players ALL vote for these guys. The executives 'probably' do for the most part.
The media shouldn't even be on the veteran's committee. Those are the clowns who
kept deserving guys out in the first place. They then get another chance to keep out
deserving players.
Santo before Dick Allen is just insanity! Of course, Dick Allen wasn't going to(and never will) grovel and
beg for it as Santo did.

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yzerman1
As of this morning, January 3, 117 ballots have been made public by various BBWAA members, about 21% of the voters. Here are the current results:
119 Full Ballots ~ (20.8% of vote ~ based on last year)


99.2 - R. Johnson
98.3 - P. Martinez
89.9 - Smoltz
84.0 - Biggio
78.9 - Piazza

????????????
69.7 - Bagwell
65.5 - Raines
57.1 - Schilling
43.7 - Mussina
42.0 - Bonds
41.2 - Clemens
27.7 - E. Martinez
21.8 - Trammell
18.5 - Lee Smith
16.0 - McGriff
15.1 - Kent
9.2 - L. Walker
8.4 - Sheffield
5.9 - McGwire
5.0 - Sosa
????????????-
4.2 - Mattingly
1.7 - Pete Rose (Write-In)
0.8 - Garciaparra
0.8 - Delgado
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safetysqueezepleezzee11
trickplayswingames wrote:
Unfortunately with so many ballots still unrevealved, there will probably be a big swing, and Piazza and Biggio probably won't be as confidently in.


I think Biggio makes it this year and Piazza just misses the cut.
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Unfortunately with so many ballots still unrevealved, there will probably be a big swing, and Piazza and Biggio probably won't be as confidently in.
Hall of Famer 20??
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yzerman1
One day before the results are announced there are now 150 ballots that have been published(26%) and here are the results so far:

99.3 - R. Johnson
98.0 - P. Martinez
87.3 - Smoltz
82.7 - Biggio
76.7 - Piazza

????????????
66.7 - Raines
66.0 - Bagwell
53.3 - Schilling
43.3 - Bonds
43.3 - Clemens
38.7 - Mussina
28.7 - E. Martinez
24.0 - Trammell
18.7 - Lee Smith
16.0 - McGriff
14.7 - Kent
8.7 - L. Walker
8.7 - Sheffield
6.7 - McGwire
????????????-
4.7 - Sosa
4.7 - Mattingly
1.3 - Pete Rose (Write-In)
0.7 - Garciaparra
0.7 - Delgado

I think four get in and Piazza gets left out. Hopefully Tim Raines ends up around 66% which bodes well for him in the next three years.
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importfromil
Your 2015 HoF Class:

Randy Johnson (97.3%)
Pedro Martinez (91.1%)
John Smoltz (82.9%)
Craig Biggio (82.7%)

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Votes needed for election: 412

Mike Piazza falls short with 384 votes (69.9%). Jeff Bagwell and Tim Raines get 306 and 302 respectively (55.7% and 55.0%). Curt Schilling notches 39.2%, ahead of Roger Clemens (37.5%) and Barry Bonds (36.8%). Don Mattingly's last chance on the regular ballot sees him get 50 votes (9.1%).

Troy Percival got 4 votes. Aaron Boone's HR gets him 2, same as Tom Gordon. Darrin Erstad gets a lone vote.
I'm not saying some things the WIAA does are wrong, ... I'm just saying, "I find it weird."
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Growing up watching baseball in the 90's, it was all about the power of the hitters. Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez were basically kryptonite to the 90's bombers. Johnson & Martinez are two of the greatest pitchers I've ever seen.

Randy "The Big Unit" Johnson. A 6'10'' flamethrower with a slider that broke batters down at the knees. If you were a lefty, you struck out at the plate and told Johnson, "Thank you." 10 time All-Star. 5 time Cy Young winner. 2nd place on the all-time strikeout list with 4,875 K's behind only Nolan Ryan himself. World Series champ in 2001.



Pedro "Come get some, Zimmer" Martinez. 8 time All-Star. 3 time Cy Young winner. World Series Champ in 2004. Despite his smaller frame (5'11'', 170 lbs), he was one of the best pitchers in his era and thrived during the "hitter friendly" era.

John "Marmaduke" Smoltz. Part of the "3 Headed Monster" the Braves had at the top of their rotation in the 90's (along with Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine). 8 time All-Star, NL Cy Young winner, World Series champ in 1995. Silver Slugger Award winner. NL Rolaids Relief Award winner. *And the only MLB pitcher with more than one stolen base in the playoffs (3)*

Craig "Mr. Lifetime Leader in HBP" Biggio. 7 time All-Star. 4 time Gold Glove Award winner. 5 time Silver Slugger Award winner. First player in baseball history NOT to hit into a double play in a 162 game season. Founding member of the "Killer Bee's" the Astros had in the mid-90's (along with Jeff Bagwell, Sean Berry, Derek Bell. Some other members were Lance Berkman, Carlos Beltran, Michael Bourn, etc.

Congrats to all 4 newest members into the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame!
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tweb1216
wlhssuperjake08 wrote:
Growing up watching baseball in the 90's, it was all about the power of the hitters. Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez were basically kryptonite to the 90's bombers. Johnson & Martinez are two of the greatest pitchers I've ever seen.

Randy "The Big Unit" Johnson. A 6'10'' flamethrower with a slider that broke batters down at the knees. If you were a lefty, you struck out at the plate and told Johnson, "Thank you." 10 time All-Star. 5 time Cy Young winner. 2nd place on the all-time strikeout list with 4,875 K's behind only Nolan Ryan himself. World Series champ in 2001.



Pedro "Come get some, Zimmer" Martinez. 8 time All-Star. 3 time Cy Young winner. World Series Champ in 2004. Despite his smaller frame (5'11'', 170 lbs), he was one of the best pitchers in his era and thrived during the "hitter friendly" era.

John "Marmaduke" Smoltz. Part of the "3 Headed Monster" the Braves had at the top of their rotation in the 90's (along with Greg Maddux and Tom Glavine). 8 time All-Star, NL Cy Young winner, World Series champ in 1995. Silver Slugger Award winner. NL Rolaids Relief Award winner. *And the only MLB pitcher with more than one stolen base in the playoffs (3)*

Craig "Mr. Lifetime Leader in HBP" Biggio. 7 time All-Star. 4 time Gold Glove Award winner. 5 time Silver Slugger Award winner. First player in baseball history NOT to hit into a double play in a 162 game season. Founding member of the "Killer Bee's" the Astros had in the mid-90's (along with Jeff Bagwell, Sean Berry, Derek Bell. Some other members were Lance Berkman, Carlos Beltran, Michael Bourn, etc.

Congrats to all 4 newest members into the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame!


I was hoping your video was of this


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A little known fact that some may not realize.....

With the results of this weeks voting, John Smoltz becomes the first pitcher to have Tommy John surgery during his career to make the Hall of Fame. I have a feeling however, he won't be the last!!!!
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formerwiacbaseballer wrote:
A little known fact that some may not realize.....

With the results of this weeks voting, John Smoltz becomes the first pitcher to have Tommy John surgery during his career to make the Hall of Fame. I have a feeling however, he won't be the last!!!!

Thanks for sharing, Cliff!
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