cameroncrazies02
Now that the draft is only a few weeks away, I thought a thread was necessary from draft stock, trade and pick discussion.

-RealGM is reporting that Boston, Houston and New York are trying to move up to the 2nd pick to acquire Rubio. I don't know why in the blue hell Boston would want it considering they have their PG of the future in Rondo, plus they have nobody of interest to trade.

-The Bucks worked out Eric Maynor and Jrue Holiday. I don't like where this is going, this points to that the Bucks want a PG. My best case scenario is that we re-sign Sessions and draft Jordan Hill considering he is slipping and if he gets by #5 and the Wizards don't take him there, the Bucks have a great chance at getting him.
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Terrorfan89 wrote:


I agree i have no idea what celtics are thinking, Houston as well Aaron Brooks looks to be a solid NBA point guard. New York should just stick to trying to get Lil' Dell to entire Lebron IMO. I'd rather see a PF as well, I liked Sessions and I like Charlie V as our 6th man and I think he'd be a good mentor to a young NBA PF (on the offensive end at least)


I think it's pretty much a given that the Bucks aren't going to be able to keep Charlie V and Sessions. I really don't think I would have a problem with any of the PGs or Hill or Blair.

Was anyone else as disappointed as I was when the Bucks pretty much said they had no need or reason to draft Jerel McNeal?

Annnnnd.... Teague to Milwaukee? [link]http://www.nbadraft.net/node/6571[/link]
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rails_#5_old
Idk what the bucks should do. Yea i doubt they can keep Sessions and Charlie V.
Live in the moment. Stop worrying about the future.
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rails_#5_old
Teague would be a good fit.


Live in the moment. Stop worrying about the future.
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wrestler08_old
As long as Milwaukee drafts someone who is neither:

A) white (Rubio being the obvious exception) or

B) Chinese

I'll be satisfied.
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Terrorfan89_old
cameroncrazies02 wrote:


Now that the draft is only a few weeks away, I thought a thread was necessary from draft stock, trade and pick discussion.

-RealGM is reporting that Boston, Houston and New York are trying to move up to the 2nd pick to acquire Rubio.? I don't know why in the blue hell Boston would want it considering they have their PG of the future in Rondo, plus they have nobody of interest to trade.

-The Bucks worked out Eric Maynor and Jrue Holiday.? I don't like where this is going, this points to that the Bucks want a PG.? My best case scenario is that we re-sign Sessions and draft Jordan Hill considering he is slipping and if he gets by #5 and the Wizards don't take him there, the Bucks have a great chance at getting him.



I agree i have no idea what celtics are thinking, Houston as well Aaron Brooks looks to be a solid NBA point guard. New York should just stick to trying to get Lil' Dell to entire Lebron IMO. I'd rather see a PF as well, I liked Sessions and I like Charlie V as our 6th man and I think he'd be a good mentor to a young NBA PF (on the offensive end at least)



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cameroncrazies02
So how about some updates?

-The Bulls are trying to make a move with the Nets to trade their #16 and #26 for the Nets #11. The Nets want Hansbrough. That's very well documented and they have a great shot at getting him at 16 as well as picking up a late 1st rounder instead of just taking him a bit early at 16. This leads me to believe the Bulls would promise not to take Hansbrough, but then who would they take? Rumor has it they want a PG. Someone to back up Rose or be able to play with him together and they could get a very good one at 11, but is it worth moving up for? I think they're targeting Gerald Henderson or one of the highly touted SF's that could go before 16...possibly Austin Daye?

-Chances are looking decent that the Bucks could get Hill at 10. The Knicks have apparently narrowed their list down to Holiday, Curry and one other PG who I'm forgetting. I think this means all signs are pointing that they take a PG no matter what which is smart IMO. The Warriors apparently have interest in Hill. Ellis is rumored to have stated to the GS brass that he'll demand a trade if they select a PG. Ellis threw water on that rumor, but I still think it could have some validity which could leave GS in a bind leaving them with only one real option: to take Hill. I don't think they should since they have a decent frontcourt already in Randolph, Turiaf, Biedrins and Wright, but who knows. The Raptors, I doubt, will take Hill. They need help at the swingman position BADLY. So if the Wizards pass on him at 5, Minnesota definitely won't take a PF/C, then all we have to worry about is the Warriors selecting him. If not, he's all but ours which I would LOVE. The Bucks worked him out and Dave Babcock, some high up for the Bucks who does all the talking, said he had an outstanding workout with Hill and gushed about him.

-My bold predictions in my mock draft 3.0 were way off about Jennings and Mullens. Apparently, Jennings is free falling after Evans and Holiday have impressed a lot lately and he could end up getting picked in the teens. BJ Mullens opted to not workout anymore after he may have been offered a promise from the Pistons at 15. It'd be a bold move for anybody to take Mullens before 15, so I think he'll go there instead of 13 to the Pacers like I predicted in 3.0.

-After looking over the draft again, my top 10 is: Clippers-Griffin, Grizzlies-Thabeet, Thunder-Harden, Kings-Rubio, Wizards-Holiday, Timberwolves-Curry, Warriors-Evans, Knicks-Flynn, Raptors-Derozan, Bucks-Hill. The picks are all going to depend on the Wizards. If they don't take Holiday, the Wolves won't either (they want a true PG where Holiday is more of a comboguard) and the Warriors probably will. This is ALL without mentioning the number of teams trying to trade into the top 10.
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-It looks like the Bucks may have a real shot at Jrue Holiday. If Jennings is picked in the top 10, I wouldn't doubt seeing it happen. Apparently, Tyreke Evans blew the Kings away in a workout and after the Kings, I don't see a whole lot of teams interested in taking Holiday. The Bucks list, according to ESPN insiders looks like this: 1) Hill, 2) Holiday, 3) Flynn, 4) Teague, 5) Lawson. I'm not so sure about Teague. I don't like him in the top 10. It is a very real possibility that none of our top 3 are there...if that were to happen though, Evans, and Jennings will be available.
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just curious...did Steph Curry ever work out for the Bucks??? Am I the only one who thinks that if we are ever, indeed going to trade Michael Redd, we should trade him to get Curry, or is everyone else not impressed with Curry like I am?
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So I was on ESPN.com today reading about John Hollinger's draft rater system and it talked about a bunch of complicated stuff and blah blah how he rated them, kinda of like his PER system or whtever it is. But it was interesting seeing his raters predict prospects for example, the 02 class. Had Drew Gooden as top overall rated player (this draft rater only applies/applied to college prospects so international players and high school players such as yao ming, lebron, etc were not in the rater.) Gooden was taken 4th overall. Carlos Boozer 2nd on the rater and Boozer was drafted 34th. (how hollinger predicted this i have no idea.) other players rounding out the top 8 or so were Dunleavy jason williams, prince, and caron butler. 03 he had wade and melo at 1 and 2, nothing too difficult to predict there. 04 Had Luol Deng at 1 and Iguadola at 2 above Okafor and shaun livingston. Devin Harris and Jameer Nelson may have been rated a little low at around 8 or 9ish i believe. 05 Correctly placed Chris Paul at the top of the list, with Andrew Bogut at 2nd (a little high probly) Danny Granger at 3, and Marvin Williams 4th. Missed a little on Deron Williams 10th, but made up for it i believe by leaving out players like channing frye and ike diagu. 2006 was a great year for the rater here is the top 6 Rudy Gay, Rajon Rondo, Shawne Williams (maybe not) Brandon Roy, Tyrus Thomas, Lamarcus Aldridge. and it correctly picked Morrison, Redick, and Patrick O Bryant as busts (Redick might not be a bust in eyes of some people but he's not worth a lottery pick thats for sure.) 07 had Durant at #1 with the highest PER of any player drafted in any of the drafts since 02. Mike Conley 2nd, Greg Oden 3rd, and correctly picked Acie law as a bust. 07 really did not turn out to be draft full of stars as perceived. Now as for 08 here is how it went (kinda early to judge their careers but anywhoo) 1 was Kevin Love, 2 Beasley, 3 Alexander. Rose all way at 6 (not good) and OJ Mayo and Westbrook not in top 10 was off as well. So aside from 08 I'd say the rater was pretty accurate and at times astonishingly accurate. now here is how he rated 09....


1 Ty Lawson
2 Blake Griffin
3 Tyreke Evans
4 Austin Daye
5 Lil Dell
6Nick Calathes
7 Dejaun Blair
8 Danny Green (very high, idk bout that one)
9 Johnny Flynn
10 James Harden
11 Thabeet
12 Early Clark
13 Jrue Holiday
14 Teague

thats the lottery some other names on list are

Hansborough 24
Jordan Hill 26
Deroazan 54th!!
Patty Mills 83


Just something interesting that I found and something maybe teams should consider looking into, and something I thought some of you would want to know about.

Sorry bout lengthy post



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-The Trailblazers moved up to the 22nd pick overall jumping ahead of Sacramento (probably to draft Omri Casspi). They traded a bunch of future 2nd rounders or something to the Mavericks.

-The Hawks and Warriors are close to a deal of Acie Law and Speedy Claxton for Jamal Crawford. I think it'd be a huge upgrade for the Hawks which would improve their bench production tremendously. As for the Warriors, they just want to wash their hands clean of Crawford and picking up a prospective PG in Law and an expiring contract in Claxton isn't terrible. I think this also points to the Warrios drafting Hill (or at least not drafting a PG) as they now have Law, Claxton, Ellis, Belinelli and CJ Watson as PG/combo guards on their roster.

-The Knicks and Grizzlies are close to a trade of Quentin Richardson to the Grizzlies for Darko Milicic. I like this for both teams. Not a whole lot of talent added but the Grizzlies filled a need behind Gay and Darko, who knows, maybe he can develop in D'Antoni's system.
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If the Bucks do not have the option of taking Hill or Flynn at the ten spot and Holiday and Derozan are available, I really hope they take Derozan. Most of the current mock drafts have Derozan as our current selection. I think he can be a special player, who at the 2 spot will actually play defense, something the Bucks haven't had in the past..(redd). Although, Holiday is so slouch defensively, i'd be happy with that selection too but he doesn't have a defined position in the NBA yet, that allows for a smooth transition. Especially since the PG is the hardest position to play in the NBA. Where as the shooting guard is much easier to play and Derozan should be able to transition in that spot nicely, outside of his long range J. If Hammond pulled this trade looking towards the future, Derozan will make our future even brighter and he can learn the offensive side of the SG from a older Redd coming off a major injury. I'll also assume we sign Session as our PG, so I can't discern taking Holiday, who has less upside and downside than Derozan, IMO.
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