mickjagger
#19-#20 Wisconsin (5-2, 3-1) at Northwestern (4-3, 4-1) 

Saturday, October 27, 2018


Ryan Field, Evanston, IL

Kickoff:  11:00 am, CDT

Television:  FOX TV

Spread:  Wisconsin favored by 6.5 points


On Wisconsin !
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mickjagger
UW Football Injury Report leading up to the Northwestern game:

https://madison.com/wsj/sports/college/football/wisconsin-quarterback-alex-hornibrook-s-availability-in-doubt-for-badgers/article_3619b239-9a51-55e4-ad7e-59a1360edc21.html
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thecrackerjack
I never feel good when UW goes to Northwestern, but with all the injuries, this feels like a forthcoming loss. However, Northwestern is pretty average across the board. 
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db11
I never feel good when UW goes to Northwestern, but with all the injuries, this feels like a forthcoming loss. However, Northwestern is pretty average across the board. 


Yep, they seem to alternate good games with bad games too...aren't they coming off a shoddy showing against Rutgers? Oy vey.
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db11
I never feel good when UW goes to Northwestern, but with all the injuries, this feels like a forthcoming loss. However, Northwestern is pretty average across the board. 


The picture is clearing and so is Wisconsin, unfortunately. At some point they're no longer gonna be able to just get fat on the Big Ten West...several other BTW programs are showing signs of awaking from their slumbers.

Starting to have serious questions about Chryst as a coach, recruiter and developer. These are more and more of his guys playing.

Also, Taylor has to be benched. You have other options. You cannot fumble this much at any level of football.
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db11
This is coward football. The Wildcats aren't even doing anything particularly good either. That's the damning thing.
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sam20
No passion or intensity at all the entire season. No leadership. Season is a massive fail all around. I cant wait until we lose to Minnesota. And Chryst mumbles and slurs so much he literally sounds drunk when answering questions about this team after games and during the week. Cant imagine Barry is loving that. 
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dawgstyle
If coaching is the issue, do you at some point look at the AD that has hired the last 2 coaches?
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Northern Illinois 7
BYU.     6
Final. I'm just sayin'.
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mickjagger
thecrackerjack wrote:
I never feel good when UW goes to Northwestern, but with all the injuries, this feels like a forthcoming loss. However, Northwestern is pretty average across the board.
db11 wrote:

The picture is clearing and so is Wisconsin, unfortunately. At some point they're no longer gonna be able to just get fat on the Big Ten West...several other BTW programs are showing signs of awaking from their slumbers.

Starting to have serious questions about Chryst as a coach, recruiter and developer. These are more and more of his guys playing.

Also, Taylor has to be benched. You have other options. You cannot fumble this much at any level of football.
I had the same pre-game concerns as Crackerjack did for essentially the same reasons.

I am miffed by the Badger offense.  This is not the same dynamic, fairly balanced, high-scoring, relatively mistake-free, attacking, dominating offense from the days when UW head-coach Paul Chryst was the Badger offensive coordinator.

The inexperience & injuries on the defensive side of the ball are what they are.  But, the incompetence, ineffectiveness and impotence of the Badger offense is inexcusable, IMO. For the most part, the pieces for an enterprising, high-powered, effective offense were in place for 2018. A fullback and tight end from the 2017 squad were the only positions needing replacements. Their 2018 inconsistency is a mystery to me. I have a feeling a large part of the problem lies with Joe Rudolph's responsibilities as the Offensive coordinator.  Rudolph is a former UW guard for Barry Alvarez's early 90's Badgers. He blocked for tight ends playing quarterback, like Mike Samuel.  Rudolph's offenses as the OC under Chryst at Pitt were less than dynamic also.  There is confusion among Badger fans as to actually calls the offensive plays.  However, to me, this lackluster and often ineffective offense has Joe Rudolph's name  written all over it.  More so than being a reflection of Chryst's potent offenses from 5-10 seasons ago as the Badger OC. 

I will acknowledge the failure of QB Alex Hornibrook to elevate his game, in this, his 3rd season as a starter, is arguably a factor in the offense's lack of consistent fire-power.  He showed strides of improvement in the non-conference games in terms of pocket-presence and stepping up in the pocket when pressured.  But in conference games, he appears to have regressed to his former not-too-athletic self.  With that said, I thought Jack Coan looked very pedestrian today vs Northwestern and nothing in Coan's performance led me to believe or conclude that he approaches Hornibrook's  passing skills.  IMO, Hornibrook is an above-average (not excellent) passer, with below-average athleticism and decision-making ability.

In many ways, this 2018 Badger football team reminds me of the 1994 Badger squad.  The '94 team was coming off a 10-1-1 season (1993) in which they had won the Big 10 championship, defeated UCLA in the Rose Bowl and were ranked 5 & 6 in the final Coaches and A.P. polls.  On offense, the '94 Badgers were returning virtually every starter from the the '93 Championship team, while the defense returned only a handful of starters from the previous season.  Optimism ran high in the pre-season and virtually every poll and/or media outlet had the Badgers ranked in the top-10, if not the top-5.  A couple key injuries, a couple off-field incidents and 2 or 3 losses by less than 6 points and a tie left the Badgers with a 7-4-1 record overall  and a 4-3-1 Big 10 record.
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oldballcoach1
The Badgers are a frustrating bunch no doubt about that - but couldn't everyone see this ones writing on the wall??  Backup qb - injuries all over the defense - @ Northwestern.  This really isn't a surprising loss.  

Lets look at a couple of things.  First off, Jack Coan making his 1st start of his career.  Did we expect him to come in and throw it all over the field??  Even with Hornibrook, that wasn't going to happen.  I am surprised they didn't let him run with the ball more and use his feet.  Second, Paul Chryst calls the plays.  He did it at Pitt and continues today in Madison.  And,  it is a little early to be calling for his head.  I think we are forgetting the things he has done and the wins he has had.  He isn't going anywhere anytime soon.  

Recruiting??  I think they have shown they can recruit and looking at the class coming in, not sure how anyone can complain about it.  Losing stinks and I fully expect at least a couple more this season.  At Penn St. and Purdue will be challenges.  For a lot of reasons, seasons like this happen.  The injuries on defense are really hurting this team and the lack of offensive continuity is confusing for sure.  

My biggest frustration is with the OL.  Individually, these guys are really good and we will probably see 3 of them being 1st round picks.   But as unit - they just don't seem to click.  
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db11
dawgstyle wrote:
If coaching is the issue, do you at some point look at the AD that has hired the last 2 coaches?


I've long been on the bandwagon that Barry can't hire coaches for crap (football, women's basketball, Gard could be on the hot seat if this year goes south...hockey seems OK with Granato for now), but who removes the Don? Donna Shalala isn't around to make the tough calls like telling Crazy Legs it's time any more.
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Noteworthy:
In Saturday's debacle at Northwestern, the Badger offense had only one possession throughout the entire game of more than 7 plays .... which is all fine and dandy if drives are beginning inside the red zone or if one is continually scoring from long distance.  However, neither was the case on Saturday for Bucky ...
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elsmith4
Wouldn't have mattered who started at QB against Northwestern... Team came out flat, didn't execute, and once against PC called a predictable game.... run run pass. Throw in a couple of turnovers and horrible penalties (Hicks, Sanborn) and this loss looked real ugly. It seems as if Wisconsin only gets penalties called against them and none against the opposition?  One has to think a coach getting on the refs for that would make a difference, but Chryst just sits there with the deer in the headlight look.   

I'm not mad at the D, they did their job and have shown plenty of flashes of improvement throughout the season.  

This offense is worse than last year which is pretty perplexing.

I'd put most of this on Paul Chryst, Joe Rudolph and co.  

Just look at Fitzgerald from NW.. Constantly has "weaker" recruiting classes but here he is competing game in and game out, making Paul Chryst look silly.  

This team doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as "Big 10 Conference Championship Game."  

Keep getting young guys playing time so we can see what we have to look forward to next year..

But it's okay "the guys had a good week of practice, yah know?"
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dawgstyle
On average the Badges have 5.5 penalties against them while the opposition has 3.625.  I wouldn't say that is a huge discrepancy. 
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