mickjagger
Saturday, 10/19/19

#6 Wisconsin (6-0 Overall, 3-0 Big Ten)

at Illinois (2-4, 0-3)


Memorial Stadium, Champaign-Urbana, IL

Kickoff:  11:00 a.m. CDT

Television:  Big Ten Network (BTN)

Spread:  Wisconsin favored by 31 points


On Wisconsin !
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db11
Hopefully there'll be better weather than last time they were down there and played out the most, dreary, boring, non-descript 24-10 victory ever.

Bury them early.
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mickjagger
Badgers Injury Report:

Fortunately, the Badgers came out of the Michigan St game relatively unscathed.  The only players on this week's injury report are the same 2 guys who appeared on last week's injury report.   Linebacker Leo Chenal and fullback Mason Stokke are listed as "questionable" ... both with head injuries.   Punt returner Jack Dunn missed practice early in the week while under observation for a concussion.  However, he returned to practice on Thursday. 

Knock on wood, the infirmary list remains minimal heading into Columbus, OH next Saturday.
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db11
Illinois 24
Wisconsin 23

What an abomination.
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nyybball
What an embarassing effort by anyone assoicated with the program....You name the phase, they got their lunch handed to them.  
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riseagainst
Can’t say I’m surprised. The badgers’ front 7 on defense continues to be excellent, while the secondary is average at best, which makes for a good but not great defense. And their offense continues to be blah...so so offensive line, game manager at QB, stud RBs, and no creativity from Rudolph with the play calling. This has pretty much been their MO for the last few years now. Tough to expect anything other than a New Year’s Day game as the ceiling (which also requires a weaker Big 10 schedule in any given year).
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mpzjames
What an embarrassment. At this point, OSU is FAR out of reach. EVEN IF they SOMEHOW are able to beat OSU twice, I don't think UW can even be considered for a playoff spot after a loss to Illinois. Teams have bad games, but a bad game to Illinois is winning by only 14. Unbelievable.
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mickjagger
riseagainst wrote:
Can’t say I’m surprised. The badgers’ front 7 on defense continues to be excellent, while the secondary is average at best, which makes for a good but not great defense. And their offense continues to be blah... so-so offensive line, game manager at QB, stud RBs, and no creativity from Rudolph with the play calling. This has pretty much been their MO for the last few years now. Tough to expect anything other than a New Year’s Day game as the ceiling (which also requires a weaker Big 10 schedule in any given year).
Until today, I thought Bucky's 2019 O-line was a vast improvement over last year's over-rated unit of future NFL draft picks.  However, playing today with a couple changes to the starting 5, at times the O-line played uninspired, ineffective football, particularly in the run game and particularly in the 1st and goal series following the slant-pass reception by Kendric Pryor which took the Badgers to the 3-yd line early in the 4th qtr.  UW ended up settling for a field goal. By the 2nd quarter today, the Badgers were looking like a clone of last season's Badgers on both sides of the ball.  I have never liked Joe Rudolph as a play-caller. It seems to me that in tight situations, he pulls his foot off the gas pedal, interrupting momentum and turning the Badgers into a conservative shadow of how they typically start games. His imagination & creativity generally declines as games & the season progress, making UW extremely predictable.  The two 4th qtr. turnovers (J. Taylor's fumble and Jack Coan's INT) were critical and excrutiatingly untimely.

at Illinois(3-4 Overall, 1-3 Big Ten)  24 
#6 Wisconsin (6-1, 3-1)  23
  
Final Score

Team Stats
1st Downs ... UW-22  ILL-17
Rushing Yds ... UW-156  ILL-141
Passing Yds ... UW-264  ILL-174
Total Yds ... UW-420  ILL-315
3rd Downs ... UW-9 of 17  ILL-2 of 10
Turnovers ... UW-3  ILL-1
Time of Possession ... UW-40:49  ILL-19:11

Jack Coan, 24 of 32 passing, 264 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 fumble lost

Jonathan Taylor, 28 rushing attempts, 132 yards (4.7 avg), 1 TD, 1 fumble lost

Game Recap, Box Score, Individual & Team Stats:
https://uwbadgers.com/news/2019/10/19/football-wisconsin-falls-to-illinois-24-23.asp
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oldballcoach1
Many things here guys.  First off, doesn't Paul Chryst call plays??   It seems like we discussed this last year and it was determined that it is Chryst who calls the actual play with the assistance of Rudolph.  So, the play calling rests in his lap.  The Chanel run plays at the goal line late in the game were head scratchers.  Maybe the first one is ok, but not the second.  Give it to Taylor or roll Coan out and let him either run it or throw it.  The box was stacked and outside of it was probably there.  

Stop the o- line rotations.  Get 5 guys in the there and lets go.  Decide on your guards and let them play.  And what happened to Coan being able to hurt teams with his legs??  Early on this season, he was able to make plays off of scrambling and extend drives.  He has moved away from that.  

The defense can't go without question too.  To get gashed like it did by a team that lost to Eastern Michigan is hard to imagine.  At times, the defense looked un-organized and not ready for the tempo of Illinois.  Huge holes up front and then guys running all alone downfield.  

This is a huge loss - as bad as a loss as I can remember.  Things were setting up so well and the possibility of getting to the playoff was there.  Even with a loss next week at Ohio St, and that is something I think most expect - winning out would then set a rematch with them in the Championship game.  Ohio St. would come into that game undefeated and ranked at least #3.  The Badgers would go into that game with 1 loss with wins over ranked Minnesota and Iowa teams and probably ranked #6 or 7.  Badgers win that Championship game - they probably move into the top 4.  This is all pretty much out of the question now as this team is not able to beat Ohio St. twice.  

My question is that one time a season, this team has the history of letting a much less opponent beat them.  This is college athletics and you are dealing with young men and things happen, but to see seemingly every year a loss like this occur is concerning.  Illinois had no business winning this game or for that matter, even competing in the game.  
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db11
Many things here guys.  First off, doesn't Paul Chryst call plays??   It seems like we discussed this last year and it was determined that it is Chryst who calls the actual play with the assistance of Rudolph.  So, the play calling rests in his lap.  The Chanel run plays at the goal line late in the game were head scratchers.  Maybe the first one is ok, but not the second.  Give it to Taylor or roll Coan out and let him either run it or throw it.  The box was stacked and outside of it was probably there.  

Stop the o- line rotations.  Get 5 guys in the there and lets go.  Decide on your guards and let them play.  And what happened to Coan being able to hurt teams with his legs??  Early on this season, he was able to make plays off of scrambling and extend drives.  He has moved away from that.  

The defense can't go without question too.  To get gashed like it did by a team that lost to Eastern Michigan is hard to imagine.  At times, the defense looked un-organized and not ready for the tempo of Illinois.  Huge holes up front and then guys running all alone downfield.  

This is a huge loss - as bad as a loss as I can remember.  Things were setting up so well and the possibility of getting to the playoff was there.  Even with a loss next week at Ohio St, and that is something I think most expect - winning out would then set a rematch with them in the Championship game.  Ohio St. would come into that game undefeated and ranked at least #3.  The Badgers would go into that game with 1 loss with wins over ranked Minnesota and Iowa teams and probably ranked #6 or 7.  Badgers win that Championship game - they probably move into the top 4.  This is all pretty much out of the question now as this team is not able to beat Ohio St. twice.  

My question is that one time a season, this team has the history of letting a much less opponent beat them.  This is college athletics and you are dealing with young men and things happen, but to see seemingly every year a loss like this occur is concerning.  Illinois had no business winning this game or for that matter, even competing in the game.  


I thought we concluded it was the other way around.

The fact that it's not clear to the public at-large is concerning.
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mickjagger
Many things here guys.  First off, doesn't Paul Chryst call plays??   It seems like we discussed this last year and it was determined that it is Chryst who calls the actual play with the assistance of Rudolph.  So, the play calling rests in his lap.  The Chanel run plays at the goal line late in the game were head scratchers.  Maybe the first one is ok, but not the second.  Give it to Taylor or roll Coan out and let him either run it or throw it.  The box was stacked and outside of it was probably there.  

Stop the o- line rotations.  Get 5 guys in the there and lets go.  Decide on your guards and let them play.  And what happened to Coan being able to hurt teams with his legs??  Early on this season, he was able to make plays off of scrambling and extend drives.  He has moved away from that.  

The defense can't go without question too.  To get gashed like it did by a team that lost to Eastern Michigan is hard to imagine.  At times, the defense looked un-organized and not ready for the tempo of Illinois.  Huge holes up front and then guys running all alone downfield.  

This is a huge loss - as bad as a loss as I can remember.  Things were setting up so well and the possibility of getting to the playoff was there.  Even with a loss next week at Ohio St, and that is something I think most expect - winning out would then set a rematch with them in the Championship game.  Ohio St. would come into that game undefeated and ranked at least #3.  The Badgers would go into that game with 1 loss with wins over ranked Minnesota and Iowa teams and probably ranked #6 or 7.  Badgers win that Championship game - they probably move into the top 4.  This is all pretty much out of the question now as this team is not able to beat Ohio St. twice.  

My question is that one time a season, this team has the history of letting a much less opponent beat them.  This is college athletics and you are dealing with young men and things happen, but to see seemingly every year a loss like this occur is concerning.  Illinois had no business winning this game or for that matter, even competing in the game.
 
db11 wrote:
I thought we concluded it was the other way around.

The fact that it's not clear to the public at-large is concerning.
 Coach, I recall the discussion last season pertaining to who calls Bucky's  offensive plays. I don't recall if a consensus was reached or not.  However, twice this season I have encountered comments stating Joe Rudolph is the play caller.  The Big Ten Network talking heads have referred to Rudolph as the play-caller and Wisconsin State Journal Badger Football columnist Tom Oates has indicated the same.  I'm going to e-mail Oates and attempt to get some clarification.  I will post my findings when I receive them.

 I agree, in large part, with the rest of your post.  The multiple substitutions on the UW O-Line and in the secondary on Saturday ended up proving costly.  Badger starting right guard Jason Erdmann didn't play at all, even though he was suited up, on the sideline, and did not appear on the official injury list.  Back-up cornerbacks Rachad Wildgoose (#5) & Deonte Burton (#17) were lit up by Illini QB Brandon Peters, even though Peters completed only 9 of 21 passes for the game.

WI State Journal Article re: Badgers' O-Line Rotations/Struggles:
https://madison.com/wsj/sports/college/football/minus-senior-jason-erdmann-badgers-shuffling-offensive-line-struggles-in/article_64d4c248-cdb6-55e6-a81b-92d822e262f3.html#utm_source=madison.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fnews-alert&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=5d559092085bc880050104111a26a8920accc4b8
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kenny78
I guess I don't understand why fans think they are entitled to know who calls the plays. To me it doesn't make any difference. Chryst is the head coach; the philosophy and game plan are something he either chose or endorsed.
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