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10/1/2019 - 7:08 CST first pitch

Brandon Woodruff (11-3, 3.62) vs. Max Scherzer (11-7, 2.92)

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oldballcoach1
It is going to be hugely important that the Brewers get something on the board early.  The longer Scherzer goes and starts to string some 0's together the tougher he is going to be.  He has given up some runs here of late and this may be the best time in a long time to get to him.  It will be interesting to see if they can get to Scherzer if the Nats will go to Strasburg and/or Corbin.  Just as interesting would be if CC goes to Lyles quickly if Woody gives up a couple in the first or second.  

I think CC's game plan is to get 4, maybe 5 innings from Woody.  5 would be great.  Then CC could go to Pomeranz for 2 and end with Hader for 2.  I would expect Guerra to be in the plan if one of those guys struggles.  

If we can get to the 5th with a 2-1 lead or something like that, that would be optimum.  Obviously being up 10-0 would be great, but in these games, that is hard to expect.  With what the Brewers have done in September, it is hard to bet against them - if they play like they did prior to Colorado.  
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yzerman1
I think it's a mistake to start Woodruff.   He has only made two starts since his injury on July 27 and both of those starts were two innings and under 40 pitches.   That means tomorrow will be a bullpen game with Woodruff probably only going three innings.  If they were going to go the bullpen route, then I would have started Brent Suter.  The Nationals as a team crush fastballs and struggle with pitchers who are more change of pace guys.  By going the bullpen route, it brings more relievers into the mix and it just takes one guy to not have that night to spell defeat.  It also means you need to use more pinch hitters because you can't give away outs by letting pitchers hit.  The Brewers are the masters of using their entire roster in September, but now they are back to 25 guys again.   I'm curious to see how many pitchers they have for tomorrow's game.  I'm guessing they have 11 pitchers and 14 position players.   Baseball needs to get with the times and make this a best of three series.  The Tigers won 47 games this year against teams better than them so anything is possible tomorrow.
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blade12
I think they will carry 14 hitters and 11 P today. Need to carry both Grisham and Gamel due to injury situations of Braun and Cain.

Woody for 3
Suter for 2
Lyles for 2
Pomeranz for 1
Hader for 1

If Suter is cruising and doesn't have to be removed for a bat he could go 3 and then go to Pomeranz for 2 and skip Lyles altogether.

OF (4) - Braun, Cain, Grisham, Gamel, 
INF (8) - Moose, Arcia, Hiura, Thames, Spangy, Shaw, Austin (is he post season eligible?), Perez
C (2) - Yaz, Pina

P (11) - Woody, Lyles, Gio, Hader, Pomeranz, Claudio, Suter, Guerra, Peralta, then probably Anderson and Davies but I'd consider Williams.
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blade12
15 position players and 10 pitchers.
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blade12 wrote:
I think they will carry 14 hitters and 11 P today. Need to carry both Grisham and Gamel due to injury situations of Braun and Cain.

Woody for 3
Suter for 2
Lyles for 2
Pomeranz for 1
Hader for 1

If Suter is cruising and doesn't have to be removed for a bat he could go 3 and then go to Pomeranz for 2 and skip Lyles altogether.

OF (4) - Braun, Cain, Grisham, Gamel, 
INF (8) - Moose, Arcia, Hiura, Thames, Spangy, Shaw, Austin (is he post season eligible?), Perez
C (2) - Yaz, Pina

P (11) - Woody, Lyles, Gio, Hader, Pomeranz, Claudio, Suter, Guerra, Peralta, then probably Anderson and Davies but I'd consider Williams.


I would think that in a perfect world, they'd try to get three total innings out of Pomeranz and Hader. I'm not sure if they'd go to Lyles, perhaps trying to save him for the NLDS. My ideal thought would be 4 from Woody, 2 from Suter, and then three in some format for Pomeranz and Hader. And pray to God none of them blow up.
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blade12


I would think that in a perfect world, they'd try to get three total innings out of Pomeranz and Hader. I'm not sure if they'd go to Lyles, perhaps trying to save him for the NLDS. My ideal thought would be 4 from Woody, 2 from Suter, and then three in some format for Pomeranz and Hader. And pray to God none of them blow up.


So much will depend on the score and flow of the game.  If runs are being scored early but it's still a tie game or a 1 run game we will likely see the BP earlier meaning they have to have someone cover innings somewhere.

If they had to use Lyles today I'd me more than OK with Houser starting game 1 of the NLDS on Thurs should they get that far.
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roadkill1
CC,
Do what ya gotta do!

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blade12
roadkill1 wrote:
CC,
Do what ya gotta do!

MR. RK


Agreed. Play to win today and live on to play another day and figure that out when it gets here.
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roadkill1
Brewers win, 5-3.
Thames and Arcia homer.


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oldballcoach1
Alright boys.  Through 2 and up 3-0.  Couldn't have asked for a better start.  Woody looks good and keep him pumpin 99 up there at the Nats.  If he can get through 5 - that would be great.  30 pitches now.  We gotta add on.  After the last trip into Washington, it is hard to feel any lead is safe.  
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riseagainst
Hader gives up 3 runs and the brewers are down 4-3 going into the 9th. Unreal. Hard to believe Hader has fallen off so far from just a year ago.
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oldballcoach1
Why, why, why??!!  The ridiculous 2 inning save philosophy bites this team in the hind end.  I don't want to say too much.  This is just really hard to swallow.  
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oldballcoach1
Wow.  Just wow.  
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db11
I tweeted after Suter went out that I hope Pomeranz can go three because Hader for two ends badly.

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