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 Who should be No. 4 in the final Poll 15  votes

 Oklahoma 8 votes
53%
 Ohio State 1 vote
6%
 Georgia 4 votes
26%
 UCF 2 votes
13%
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Lets just say Alabama and Clemson win the SEC and ACC. Notre Dame is already in (Although it shouldn't be a lock.)

Who should be No. 4?

Ohio State- They win the BigTen, but beat Northwestern (the best the West Division can limp to the barn with.) Their best nonconference win was at a neutral site against TCU 40-28, and the win was not convincing. They struggled with Penn State, Minnesota, Nebraska, and Maryland. Their loss was to Purdue...... by 29 points. They crushed the No. 1 defense in the nation in Michigan, but the MI stats were a benefit of playing weak competition. 

Oklahoma- They win the Big XII avenging a last-second loss by 3 to Texas at a neutral site. Their offense is unstoppable, but the defense leaves much to be desired, but have played big when they needed to (2 scoop and scores against WV.) Also factor in the power of BigXII offenses, and many defenses will struggle. Oklahoma went to Ft. Worth to play TCU and crushed them 52-27, so for common opponent they edge Ohio State. 

Georgia- They play Alabama for the SEC title. They got smoked by LSU by 20 points, but have cruised past everyone. Their non conference slate is pathetic, but the SEC gets a huge pass because of the SEC bias. If the Dawgs beat Bama, there'll be two SEC teams in the playoff, which I disagree with, but that's how it'll be.

UCF- They're undefeated, but have played NO ONE. They lost their quarterback for the rest of the year, but it still does not erase the fact they were undefeated last year, and still are this year.

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dawgstyle
Oklahoma, and it's not even close.
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I will tell you who it should not be...THE Ohio State!
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gstacy
hard to guess, and that is what I would be doing now without watching OU or UG play. Plus OSU. It all depends on which team brings it this Saturday. I don't know how any of these teams look so I'm staying out of it.
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My personal feeling is OSU...would love to have seen UCF, just to see once and for all what's up, but with Milton out, it kind of ruins it.

What I'd like to see? Oklahoma/Alabama in the 1/4 matchup.
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dawgstyle wrote:
Oklahoma, and it's not even close.


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gstacy
Georgeia, OU has no defense and OSU not the juggernaut they usually are, lucky to be in the conversation.
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If Oklahoma and Ohio State both win, I think Oklahoma should get in, based off what the committee has established as criteria.

I think if Ohio State and Oklahoma played each other, Ohio State would win. 

Gets confusing right? 

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Truthfully, I would take Oklahoma, Ohio State, or even a 2-loss Georgia team over Notre Dame. All 3 of those teams would beat Notre Dame on a neutral field. Not really sure why Notre Dame is even considered a lock at this point. They played a pretty pedestrian schedule with their signature win coming in week one, in a tight win at home, against a Michigan team that struggled early in the year breaking in a new QB. Not to mention they only played 4 road games all year, which is honestly ridiculous.
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kenny78
riseagainst wrote:
Truthfully, I would take Oklahoma, Ohio State, or even a 2-loss Georgia team over Notre Dame. All 3 of those teams would beat Notre Dame on a neutral field. Not really sure why Notre Dame is even considered a lock at this point. They played a pretty pedestrian schedule with their signature win coming in week one, in a tight win at home, against a Michigan team that struggled early in the year breaking in a new QB. Not to mention they only played 4 road games all year, which is honestly ridiculous.


Alabama and Ohio State only played 4 road games as well. Should that be held against them too?
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kenny78 wrote:


Alabama and Ohio State only played 4 road games as well. Should that be held against them too?


I think the difference is that both Ohio St and Alabama also played a neutral site game against a Power 5 team, not against one of the naval academies. Not to mention they both played an extra conference championship game against a ranked opponent, rather than sit at home and get a free pass.
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kenny78
riseagainst wrote:


I think the difference is that both Ohio St and Alabama also played a neutral site game against a Power 5 team, not against one of the naval academies. Not to mention they both played an extra conference championship game against a ranked opponent, rather than sit at home and get a free pass.


Well, Notre Dame played 4 ranked opponents and OSU played 5, which included an inappropriately ranked Northwestern team in the Big Ten Championship. Notre Dame also beat Northwestern in Evanston at the beginning of November before they were ranked. Finally, Notre Dame did not get hammered by an average, unranked team like OSU did against Purdue. Yes, OSU did beat Michigan, but I would argue that it was an overrated Michigan team. Great teams do not give up 62 points to anyone. The bottom line is that Notre Dame took care of business and OSU did not.
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kenny78 wrote:


Well, Notre Dame played 4 ranked opponents and OSU played 5, which included an inappropriately ranked Northwestern team in the Big Ten Championship. Notre Dame also beat Northwestern in Evanston at the beginning of November before they were ranked. Finally, Notre Dame did not get hammered by an average, unranked team like OSU did against Purdue. Yes, OSU did beat Michigan, but I would argue that it was an overrated Michigan team. Great teams do not give up 62 points to anyone. The bottom line is that Notre Dame took care of business and OSU did not.


Is the the same overrated team that ND struggled to beat?

The number of ranked teams played should be calculated off current rankings, not rankings when they played.  A few people once thought VT was the #24 team in the country, they were wrong.  Same goes for Stanford being number 7.

ND played 3 ranked teams.

Michigan 
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Syracuse

OSU played 3 ranked teams

Michigan 
NW
Penn State


The 2 common opponents they had. OSU won by an average of 22.  ND won by an average of 8.5

I hate OSU more than anyone on this board, but I struggle to see how ND deserves to be in over OSU, OU, or Georgia.

When you say one team "took care of business" and another didn't, you sound like the people who think UCF should get in.  Two teams don't have the same business, so stop pretending like it.

After seeing Georgia play yesterday, the absolutely deserve to be in.  I would give the 4th spot to OK.

My top 4 would go Bama, Georgia, OU, Clemson
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Official College Football Playoff pairings...

(1) Alabama vs. (4) Oklahoma at the Orange Bowl
(2) Clemson vs. (3) Notre Dame at the Cotton Bowl

Georgia was ranked 5 and Ohio State was 6.
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kenny78
dawgstyle wrote:


Is the the same overrated team that ND struggled to beat?

The number of ranked teams played should be calculated off current rankings, not rankings when they played.  A few people once thought VT was the #24 team in the country, they were wrong.  Same goes for Stanford being number 7.

ND played 3 ranked teams.

Michigan 
NW
Syracuse

OSU played 3 ranked teams

Michigan 
NW
Penn State


The 2 common opponents they had. OSU won by an average of 22.  ND won by an average of 8.5

I hate OSU more than anyone on this board, but I struggle to see how ND deserves to be in over OSU, OU, or Georgia.

When you say one team "took care of business" and another didn't, you sound like the people who think UCF should get in.  Two teams don't have the same business, so stop pretending like it.

After seeing Georgia play yesterday, the absolutely deserve to be in.  I would give the 4th spot to OK.

My top 4 would go Bama, Georgia, OU, Clemson


I don't think that a team like UCF should get in with the current system but I don't know what else Notre Dame can do. They schedule who they can and then play the games. Some of that is due to them being an independent. The bottom of the Big Ten is just as bad as some of the teams that ND plays, just like the bottom of the SEC is. I do, however, think that winning a conference should count for something. Georgia had their chance but couldn't finish the deal. I never was a fan of ND being an independent in football but affiliated with a conference in other sports when it is convenient for them. I also believe that there should be no conference championship games, that every conference should be no larger than 10 teams, and that every year each team should play every other conference team. That is the only true way to determine a conference champion. Then I would have only the conference champions be eligible for a playoff. Oh, and get rid of this "6 wins to be bowl eligible" nonsense. That just rewards mediocre teams, much like everyone getting a trophy.
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